Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK

sevans105 · 03-06-2012, 08:56 AM

Ok, so Dani didn't sleep much last night and in addition to the La Gloria Cubana painting, she started this one. NEED FEEDBACK. She's trying to figure out if she likes it.

We need your critiques....what do you like...what do you not like. No punches pulled.

BlkDrew...she used your cigar name. If that is not ok...LET US KNOW.

Blak Smyth · 03-06-2012, 09:00 AM

Okay I will be critical (Because you asked), the hand seems backwards. It seems like the angle is wrong for it to be the left hand. I can't easily make my hand do that without looking very awkward. Also the Y is lower that the ROX (Could be intentional), other than that I think it is a cool concept and am sure Dani would pull it off. It sounds like you guys didn't actually run the idea by BlkDrew though, I would ask him first.

I think it would be cool to have the smoke come out of the circle frame and keep the rest in (if that makes sense).

To help eliminate the issue with the hand, you could put the cigar in the mouth instead?

md4958 · 03-06-2012, 09:01 AM

If you really dont want punches pulled:

It looks like a woman with a beard
The hand is at an akward angle
The cigar is curved
Is it supposed to be a cowbow, or a guy in a fedora? Either way, he has no shirt on under his suit jacket

Salvelinus · 03-06-2012, 09:05 AM

Here's my input FWIW. And just note that I applaud the creativity, my art skills are sorely lacking... like stick figures lacking.

Unless that is supposed to be someone elses hand in the pic that configuration of fingers doesn't seem possible.

If I reach across my body and have my palm facing out my thumb is closer to my shoulder than my than my neck. To get my hand on the same side into that position I've got to put my elbow farther into my gut than I'm capable of.

Salvelinus · 03-06-2012, 09:07 AM

Clearly I take too long to type out replies.

sevans105 · 03-06-2012, 09:24 AM

Thanks for the feedback....very similar thoughts to what we had. Thus, the need for feedback.

Her actual thought after finishing was "Broke Back Mountain Cowboy"...not the intention.

Re-doing the man....New pics to follow.

mkarnold1 · 03-06-2012, 09:41 AM

How about a boxer with a stogie? I believe that the Blkdrew named the brand after his dog.

Stole this pic from Andrew's Rolling your own thread.

Blak Smyth · 03-06-2012, 09:44 AM

Reference image of an old ad:

sevans105 · 03-06-2012, 09:47 AM

New rendition....we didn't like the guy either.

Blak Smyth · 03-06-2012, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sevans105

New rendition....we didn't like the guy either.

Looking better now, the hand still looks wrong though.

Reference, when I hold it the finger nails pretty much dissapear when the cigar is above the knuckle:

If I hold it the way the pic shows my pointer doesn't wrap over:

Man I wish I had a cigar right now, just tried smoking this marker.

backwoods357 · 03-06-2012, 11:18 PM

Nice, I really like the new version.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth

I looked at this picture and did a double take when I noticed your post in the background.

Emjaysmash · 03-06-2012, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backwoods357

Nice, I really like the new version.

I looked at this picture and did a double take when I noticed your post in the background.

Marker-ception?

03-06-2012, 10:04 AM

That's so funny! Don't smoke the marker... that would smell REALLY bad and would taste NASTY!

I do agree I need to make the fingers different, I don't like the nails showing either. I also need to have the jacket show on the other side of the face.

sevans105 · 03-06-2012, 10:20 AM

Ogre · 03-06-2012, 10:24 AM

Getting better.

03-06-2012, 10:32 AM

It is meant to be stylized... I think that it may be hard to see my intentional lines since I have done so much erasing

I am hoping it turns out half as cool as I see it in my mind...

Blak Smyth · 03-06-2012, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CuteAsh

It is meant to be stylized... I think that it may be hard to see my intentional lines since I have done so much erasing

I am hoping it turns out half as cool as I see it in my mind...

getting much better, the thing that still stands out on the hand is the pointer finger. Not the tip, the rest of the finger seems hooked. The part you can see towards the head of the cigar seems to curve to much IMHO.

Like in this pic, you can't see any of the pointer finger except the tip or in the other pic it is just the tip pointing more towards the viewer than down:

I am trying to be helpfull, if I am not or am coming across as rude that is not my intention.

smitty81 · 03-06-2012, 10:51 AM

The index finger looks REALLY fat compared to the rest of the fingers.

BlkDrew · 03-06-2012, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sevans105

We need your critiques....what do you like...what do you not like. No punches pulled.

BlkDrew...she used your cigar name. If that is not ok...LET US KNOW.

just let me know how much to pay when it's done

Give me the first shot at buying it.

The letters are never even on the bands, all hand stamped so there is no regularity. The updated pics look great.

md4958 · 03-06-2012, 11:09 AM

might I suggest contacting "muhren" regarding figure drawing/painting. He might be able to provide some useful tips/advice.

03-06-2012, 08:56 AM	#1
sevans105 Alpha Zombie Wolf "Sceve" Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Scott Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 1,786 Trading: (30)	Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK Ok, so Dani didn't sleep much last night and in addition to the La Gloria Cubana painting, she started this one. NEED FEEDBACK. She's trying to figure out if she likes it. We need your critiques....what do you like...what do you not like. No punches pulled. BlkDrew...she used your cigar name. If that is not ok...LET US KNOW. __________________

03-06-2012, 09:00 AM	#2
Blak Smyth Think Blue! Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: SD Location: THE WOOD Posts: 8,486 Trading: (52)	Re: Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK Okay I will be critical (Because you asked), the hand seems backwards. It seems like the angle is wrong for it to be the left hand. I can't easily make my hand do that without looking very awkward. Also the Y is lower that the ROX (Could be intentional), other than that I think it is a cool concept and am sure Dani would pull it off. It sounds like you guys didn't actually run the idea by BlkDrew though, I would ask him first. I think it would be cool to have the smoke come out of the circle frame and keep the rest in (if that makes sense). To help eliminate the issue with the hand, you could put the cigar in the mouth instead? __________________ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS Last edited by Blak Smyth; 03-06-2012 at 09:13 AM.

03-06-2012, 09:01 AM	#3
md4958 Captain Cannoli Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moe Location: Suffield, CT Posts: 5,712 Trading: (62)	Re: Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK If you really dont want punches pulled: It looks like a woman with a beard The hand is at an akward angle The cigar is curved Is it supposed to be a cowbow, or a guy in a fedora? Either way, he has no shirt on under his suit jacket __________________ "One fart can foul the air for everyone" - Esteemed philosopher "If avoiding the nasty $hit is being a snob, them I am guilty as charged."- Same esteemed philosopher.

03-06-2012, 09:05 AM	#4
Salvelinus Have My Own Room Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Brendan Location: Vermont Posts: 1,116 Trading: (12)	Re: Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK Here's my input FWIW. And just note that I applaud the creativity, my art skills are sorely lacking... like stick figures lacking. Unless that is supposed to be someone elses hand in the pic that configuration of fingers doesn't seem possible. If I reach across my body and have my palm facing out my thumb is closer to my shoulder than my than my neck. To get my hand on the same side into that position I've got to put my elbow farther into my gut than I'm capable of.

03-06-2012, 09:07 AM	#5
Salvelinus Have My Own Room Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Brendan Location: Vermont Posts: 1,116 Trading: (12)	Re: Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK Clearly I take too long to type out replies.

03-06-2012, 09:24 AM	#6
sevans105 Alpha Zombie Wolf "Sceve" Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Scott Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 1,786 Trading: (30)	Re: Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK Thanks for the feedback....very similar thoughts to what we had. Thus, the need for feedback. Her actual thought after finishing was "Broke Back Mountain Cowboy"...not the intention. Re-doing the man....New pics to follow. __________________

03-06-2012, 09:41 AM	#7
mkarnold1 Skol Vikings! Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Mark Location: St. Charles, MN Posts: 1,015 Trading: (22)	Re: Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK How about a boxer with a stogie? I believe that the Blkdrew named the brand after his dog. Stole this pic from Andrew's Rolling your own thread. __________________ [Help out the troops!

03-06-2012, 09:44 AM	#8
Blak Smyth Think Blue! Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: SD Location: THE WOOD Posts: 8,486 Trading: (52)	Re: Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK Reference image of an old ad: __________________ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS

03-06-2012, 09:47 AM	#9
sevans105 Alpha Zombie Wolf "Sceve" Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Scott Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 1,786 Trading: (30)	Re: Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK New rendition....we didn't like the guy either. __________________

03-06-2012, 10:04 AM	#13
CuteAsh Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK That's so funny! Don't smoke the marker... that would smell REALLY bad and would taste NASTY! I do agree I need to make the fingers different, I don't like the nails showing either. I also need to have the jacket show on the other side of the face.

03-06-2012, 10:20 AM	#14
sevans105 Alpha Zombie Wolf "Sceve" Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Scott Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 1,786 Trading: (30)	Re: Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK __________________

03-06-2012, 10:24 AM	#15
Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK Getting better. __________________

03-06-2012, 10:32 AM	#16
CuteAsh Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK It is meant to be stylized... I think that it may be hard to see my intentional lines since I have done so much erasing I am hoping it turns out half as cool as I see it in my mind...

03-06-2012, 10:51 AM	#18
smitty81 Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,640 Trading: (10)	Re: Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK The index finger looks REALLY fat compared to the rest of the fingers.

03-06-2012, 11:09 AM	#20
md4958 Captain Cannoli Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moe Location: Suffield, CT Posts: 5,712 Trading: (62)	Re: Roxy Painting.. NEED FEEDBACK might I suggest contacting "muhren" regarding figure drawing/painting. He might be able to provide some useful tips/advice. __________________ "One fart can foul the air for everyone" - Esteemed philosopher "If avoiding the nasty $hit is being a snob, them I am guilty as charged."- Same esteemed philosopher.