cigars and health

12-12-2010, 06:21 PM

Hello, My name is Shaman Smith (yes actual name) and I have just recently turned 18 and when I raise the appropriate funds me and my friend were going to drive down to this place called Tinderbox to get some cigars. But I have some questions.

Up until now I really haven't done any potentially hazards things to my health (unless you count being fat), never smoked anything, drank, I’ve even managed to evade being sick much of my life so I have never really taken any medications either. And this whole while I have seen read and heard many things about the dangers of such things I have stated above. And believe you me, I am as skeptical of this fear mongering as the next guy with aluminum foil as a hat. Yet despite this I do find even the prospect of developing tongue and throat cancer a bit...unsavory.

So without relying upon some faceless company's research I would rather ask the people of this forum-

Does anyone have, or knows someone who has, any health problems due to smoking (specifically cigars)? And if I plan smoking no more than roughly 2 cigars a week am I in any real danger?

Thanks

Ogre · 12-12-2010, 06:25 PM

I dont see any problems with my health. I guess if you dont inhale the cigar, there is vary little risk. Mouth cancer is found more in dip that anything else. All I can suggest is brush your teeth and rinse with a good mouth wash after, the greatest risk is from kissing a girlfriend or wife who doesnt care for it.

quantim0 · 12-12-2010, 06:30 PM

You're a big boy now. You can decide whether or not a risk is acceptable to you. I smoke cigars because I enjoy it. There is a potential health hazard, albeit small. However, I as a grown man have made the decision that the enjoyment I get out of cigars is worth the risk.

12-12-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by quantim0

You're a big boy now. You can decide whether or not a risk is acceptable to you. I smoke cigars because I enjoy it. There is a potential health hazard, albeit small. However, I as a grown man have made the decision that the enjoyment I get out of cigars is worth the risk.

yes, well me being a "big boy" now has no bearing weather or not smoking is actually harmful..which was the entirety of my post.

markem · 12-12-2010, 06:41 PM

As with any smoking, risks do go up with imbibing. The stats show the risk to be minimal, in a statistical sense. In order for it to be zero for some, it must be above average for others. You may or may not be in a group at the extremes of the averages. Caveat Emptor and all that.

quantim0 · 12-12-2010, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamansmith

yes, well me being a "big boy" now has no bearing weather or not smoking is actually harmful..which was the entirety of my post.

Of course its harmful, most things worth doing are. You will increase your risk of certain cancers by smoking.

hotreds · 12-13-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamansmith

yes, well me being a "big boy" now has no bearing weather or not smoking is actually harmful..which was the entirety of my post.

Yes, the weather outside is frightful, but whether cigars are harmful is a question that can be argued ad nauseum. I suggest you spend some time here before you start getting a pissy attitude about someone who is responding to your question! Or perhaps you aren't as big a boy as surmised.....

12-13-2010, 04:26 PM

Well, thanks for everyone’s' thoughts

Especially for Hotreds input on semantics of all things!

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Originally Posted by hotreds

Yes, the weather outside is frightful, but whether cigars are harmful is a question that can be argued ad nauseum. I suggest you spend some time here before you start getting a pissy attitude about someone who is responding to your question! Or perhaps you aren't as big a boy as surmised.....

And yes that was said in jest.

floydpink · 12-13-2010, 05:49 PM

I'm headed over to my gun forum to asks if guns kill people, or people kill guns.

hotreds · 12-13-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamansmith

Especially for Hotreds input on semantics of all things!

Homonyms, actually.

Bill86 · 12-12-2010, 06:41 PM

Yes it is harmful to you. So are cigarettes and booze but you know what....they taste GREAT! You only live once, don't miss out on anything you want to do. You don't get a second chance to do it all over again. IMHO 2 a week isn't a problem, although if you do get cancer there isn't too much proof that cigars did it. Theres always stories of that 95 year old 4 pack a day smoker in perfect health. You really need to decide this one for yourself, all of us can only give you the "go for it" because we do. It's enjoyable and if I do get mouth cancer so be it.

EDIT frankly having sex has it's own set of risks, you take that risk....because does anyone really want to be a virgin forever. I don't think so. Just sayin'. Life is a risk.

Gary · 12-12-2010, 07:13 PM

That's the truth.

I had a neighbor once who was 95, smoked cigarettes around the clock, drank beer, and was in great health. He would even walk down the hill to the grocery store and lug all his groceries back up the hill. I'm sure we can all cite examples like this. Even George Burns who had like 15 cigars everyday, and smoked for 70 years.

The other side of the coin, I had a coworker, who was in perfect health, ate only healthy foods, went to the gym, then tragically died of brain cancer. Also had another coworker who was also in perfect health, went to the gym, ate healthy, then tragically died in a skiing accident.

Being really careful in life is no guarantee of any sort. You just never know.

To answer your question, no, I don't know anybody who had/has health problems related to cigar smoking.

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Originally Posted by Bill86

Theres always stories of that 95 year old 4 pack a day smoker in perfect health.

shilala · 12-13-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

Just sayin'. Life is a risk.

That's as good an answer as I've ever heard.
Welcome to life, right?

CasaDooley · 12-13-2010, 02:09 PM

A good cigar definitely reduces stress. Trust me on this one bro!

TheStatsGuy · 12-13-2010, 02:58 PM

Inevitably when you here a bunch of guys/gals talking about cigars someone doesn't particularly care for a type of smoke someone else enjoys and you'll hear "like what you smoke and smoke what you like" (aka Tom and his Gurkhas).

In this case I'll say like what you do and do what you like. I'll gladly sacrifice a little time on this earth for the enjoyment I derive from the friendships made and the fine cigars enjoyed for the last 10 years and many more going forward hopefully.

In honor of this thread I promise to go watch some football with friends tonight and smoke at least 2 cigars.

Ashes to ashes..

Ogre · 12-13-2010, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheStatsGuy

Inevitably when you here a bunch of guys/gals talking about cigars someone doesn't particularly care for a type of smoke someone else enjoys and you'll hear "like what you smoke and smoke what you like" (aka Tom and his Gurkhas).

In this case I'll say like what you do and do what you like. I'll gladly sacrifice a little time on this earth for the enjoyment I derive from the friendships made and the fine cigars enjoyed for the last 10 years and many more going forward hopefully.

In honor of this thread I promise to go watch some football with friends tonight and smoke at least 2 cigars.

Ashes to ashes..

Amen Brother, I will kill something tonight at well.

kelmac07 · 12-12-2010, 07:19 PM

I know of noone that has had a significant health problems SOLELY due to smoking cigars. But as others have stated above, there is a risk in it. I, like the others, am willing to take that risk because of the pleasure this great hobby provides me.

12-12-2010, 07:24 PM

Smoking cigars obviously won't make you healthier, but neither will eating fast food, drinking caffeine, breathing smoggy air, or a number of other things we all do.

I don't personally know anyone with any cigar-related illnesses, but I imagine if you do it long enough you might end up with something.

I do have a suggestion for you. Don't smoke cigars just for the sake of smoking. Smoke good cigars that you enjoy. And by smoking good cigars your mouth won't taste like an ashtray when you wake up the next morning.

bobarian · 12-12-2010, 07:59 PM

If you are concerned with the health implications of smoking cigars I would suggest you speak to your physician. Anecdotal information is of little use. Your doctor will be able to advise you of the impact on your personal health better than anyone else.

Please take the time to introduce and tell us a bit about yourself here:
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=7

BloodSpite · 12-13-2010, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian

If you are concerned with the health implications of smoking cigars I would suggest you speak to your physician. Anecdotal information is of little use. Your doctor will be able to advise you of the impact on your personal health better than anyone else.

Please take the time to introduce and tell us a bit about yourself here:
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=7

Best Advice thus far.

12-12-2010, 06:21 PM	#1
Shamansmith Guest Posts: n/a	cigars and health Hello, My name is Shaman Smith (yes actual name) and I have just recently turned 18 and when I raise the appropriate funds me and my friend were going to drive down to this place called Tinderbox to get some cigars. But I have some questions. Up until now I really haven't done any potentially hazards things to my health (unless you count being fat), never smoked anything, drank, I’ve even managed to evade being sick much of my life so I have never really taken any medications either. And this whole while I have seen read and heard many things about the dangers of such things I have stated above. And believe you me, I am as skeptical of this fear mongering as the next guy with aluminum foil as a hat. Yet despite this I do find even the prospect of developing tongue and throat cancer a bit...unsavory. So without relying upon some faceless company's research I would rather ask the people of this forum- Does anyone have, or knows someone who has, any health problems due to smoking (specifically cigars)? And if I plan smoking no more than roughly 2 cigars a week am I in any real danger? Thanks

12-12-2010, 06:25 PM	#2
Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: cigars and health I dont see any problems with my health. I guess if you dont inhale the cigar, there is vary little risk. Mouth cancer is found more in dip that anything else. All I can suggest is brush your teeth and rinse with a good mouth wash after, the greatest risk is from kissing a girlfriend or wife who doesnt care for it.

12-12-2010, 06:30 PM	#3
quantim0 Feeling at Home Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Andrew Location: Palm Bay, Fl Posts: 528 Trading: (20)	Re: cigars and health You're a big boy now. You can decide whether or not a risk is acceptable to you. I smoke cigars because I enjoy it. There is a potential health hazard, albeit small. However, I as a grown man have made the decision that the enjoyment I get out of cigars is worth the risk. __________________ All animals are equal, but some are more equal then others. -George Orwell

12-12-2010, 06:41 PM	#5
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,625 Trading: (47)	Re: cigars and health As with any smoking, risks do go up with imbibing. The stats show the risk to be minimal, in a statistical sense. In order for it to be zero for some, it must be above average for others. You may or may not be in a group at the extremes of the averages. Caveat Emptor and all that. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

12-13-2010, 05:49 PM	#9
floydpink crazy diamond Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: Orlando Posts: 1,955 Trading: (17)	Re: cigars and health I'm headed over to my gun forum to asks if guns kill people, or people kill guns. __________________ "If we weren't all crazy we would go insane"

12-12-2010, 06:41 PM	#11
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: cigars and health Yes it is harmful to you. So are cigarettes and booze but you know what....they taste GREAT! You only live once, don't miss out on anything you want to do. You don't get a second chance to do it all over again. IMHO 2 a week isn't a problem, although if you do get cancer there isn't too much proof that cigars did it. Theres always stories of that 95 year old 4 pack a day smoker in perfect health. You really need to decide this one for yourself, all of us can only give you the "go for it" because we do. It's enjoyable and if I do get mouth cancer so be it. EDIT frankly having sex has it's own set of risks, you take that risk....because does anyone really want to be a virgin forever. I don't think so. Just sayin'. Life is a risk.

12-13-2010, 02:09 PM	#14
CasaDooley Herf Crew of 2 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Kevin Location: The birthplace of Fathers Day Posts: 2,465 Trading: (41)	Re: cigars and health A good cigar *definitely* reduces stress. Trust me on this one bro! __________________ *Founding member of the Lilac City Dedicated Herfers*

12-13-2010, 02:58 PM	#15
TheStatsGuy I'm a proud Masshole Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: Tim #4 Location: Somewhere, WMASS Posts: 288 Trading: (17)	Re: cigars and health Inevitably when you here a bunch of guys/gals talking about cigars someone doesn't particularly care for a type of smoke someone else enjoys and you'll hear "like what you smoke and smoke what you like" (aka Tom and his Gurkhas). In this case I'll say like what you do and do what you like. I'll gladly sacrifice a little time on this earth for the enjoyment I derive from the friendships made and the fine cigars enjoyed for the last 10 years and many more going forward hopefully. In honor of this thread I promise to go watch some football with friends tonight and smoke at least 2 cigars. Ashes to ashes.. __________________ Why is it a dog rocket and not a cat crater?

12-12-2010, 07:19 PM	#17
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: cigars and health I know of noone that has had a significant health problems SOLELY due to smoking cigars. But as others have stated above, there is a risk in it. I, like the others, am willing to take that risk because of the pleasure this great hobby provides me. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

12-12-2010, 07:24 PM	#18
jsd Guest Posts: n/a	Re: cigars and health Smoking cigars obviously won't make you healthier, but neither will eating fast food, drinking caffeine, breathing smoggy air, or a number of other things we all do. I don't personally know anyone with any cigar-related illnesses, but I imagine if you do it long enough you might end up with something. I do have a suggestion for you. Don't smoke cigars just for the sake of smoking. Smoke good cigars that you enjoy. And by smoking good cigars your mouth won't taste like an ashtray when you wake up the next morning.

12-12-2010, 07:59 PM	#19
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: cigars and health If you are concerned with the health implications of smoking cigars I would suggest you speak to your physician. Anecdotal information is of little use. Your doctor will be able to advise you of the impact on your personal health better than anyone else. Please take the time to introduce and tell us a bit about yourself here: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=7