Coolerdor RH levels

kenstogie · 03-09-2010, 07:37 AM

I have multiple coolerdors all with well over a lb of Heartfelt beads and recently I put 2 wireless hygrometers in one of the coolerdors. Much to my surprise I got 2 significantly different readings. 66% and 75%. I thought "wow they are way off" Put them next to each other and voila! within 1 point each. Move them around a few times with essentially the same results.

Can the RH vary that much in the same container??

Am I missing something?

If it can how do you equalize it?

wayner123 · 03-09-2010, 07:40 AM

What size are the coolidors?

Emjaysmash · 03-09-2010, 07:41 AM

Possibly a fan to move around the pockets of humidity?

ucla695 · 03-09-2010, 07:53 AM

Oust fans do a good job of circulating air. I don't think they are produced anymore, but you can find them on ebay. Just be sure to clean them to remove the scent and toss the fragrance before you put them in your cooler.

shilala · 03-09-2010, 08:00 AM

That's a new one. Weird.
Looking forward to see ing what you come up with. Try each sensor in each place to make sure the sensor isn't wonky. If both sensors read 75 then 65, that'll be super double weird.
The taco lover had a great idea in the oust fan.

kenstogie · 03-09-2010, 08:20 AM

They are typical size coolers 40 qrt I guess, generally just sit and are not opened much especially in the winter. They are pretty full.

I have heard of the oust fans but was hoping for something requiring less maintenance.

I will check back with the results/observations/findings.
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kenstogie · 03-09-2010, 08:22 AM

Why do you love "tacos" so much?
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shilala · 03-09-2010, 08:24 AM

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Why do you love "tacos" so much?
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I bet he had one of the new shrimp tacos at Taco Bell.

wayner123 · 03-09-2010, 08:23 AM

I have a 100qt and only a pound of beads in it. And even then only about 1/4 of the beads are wet. It may be too many beads in the cooler.

Mugen910 · 03-09-2010, 08:27 AM

I've got two fans that I took out of my coolerdor. I don't find them useful but you are more than welcome to have them Kenstogie.

CigarNut · 03-09-2010, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kenstogie

I have multiple coolerdors all with well over a lb of Heartfelt beads and recently I put 2 wireless hygrometers in one of the coolerdors. Much to my surprise I got 2 significantly different readings. 66% and 75%. I thought "wow they are way off" Put them next to each other and voila! within 1 point each. Move them around a few times with essentially the same results.

Can the RH vary that much in the same container??

Am I missing something?

If it can how do you equalize it?

That's why I use a small fan -- more powerful than an Oust fan. With boxes and bags blocking natural air-flow I feel a little assistance is needed. I know that alot of people think I am crazy and that the fan is unneeded, but they are obviously wrong...

The fan I use is an RV refrigerator fan; cost about $14. Takes two D batteries and works great.

03-09-2010, 10:01 AM

I am planning on running a few 12V fans in my winador on a timer a few times a day for 5 or 10 minutes.. Making sure I have the circulation I want..

Jack Straw · 03-09-2010, 10:11 AM

Is an oust fan really needed in a 40-50 qt cooler? I thought that was mainly for the giants (like 100, 120qt, etc). If so I may pick one or two up myself, but frankly I'd rather have the storage space.

NCRadioMan · 03-09-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Straw

Is an oust fan really needed in a 40-50 qt cooler?

Nope. They don't even need to be in a 120qt cooler. Gives folks peace of mind, I reckon.

bobarian · 03-09-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Nope. They don't even need to be in a 120qt cooler. Gives folks peace of mind, I reckon.

The Rh of the air in the cooler is totally irrelevant. What matters is the Rh of your cigars. Place a hygrometer in a half empty box, if the cooler has stabilized and reached equilibrium it should read the same Rh as your beads.

Also remember that there is random error to take into consideration. Even a calibrated hygrometer will have a +- error rate of 1-2%. The hygrometers we use are very basic. Check out the +- on this $1800 hygrometer. http://www.tequipment.net/HartScientific1620.html

Fans are not necessary, just relax its not that big of a deal.

Kreth · 03-09-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Straw

Is an oust fan really needed in a 40-50 qt cooler? I thought that was mainly for the giants (like 100, 120qt, etc). If so I may pick one or two up myself, but frankly I'd rather have the storage space.

I have a 48 qt that's pretty consistent no matter where I move the hygro.
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Jack Straw · 03-09-2010, 10:18 AM

Thanks guys

longknocker · 03-09-2010, 10:20 AM

Interesting Situation. I've Got One Each Of Shilala's Large Beads in Each Of My 3 Different Coolidors & They Are All 64-65% RH Throughout And Have Stayed That Way For The Last 6 Months.

ucla695 · 03-09-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kenstogie

Why do you love "tacos" so much?
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What's not to like?

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Originally Posted by shilala

I bet he had one of the new shrimp tacos at Taco Bell.

How'd you guess?

shilala · 03-09-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ucla695

What's not to like?

How'd you guess?

I saw that shrimp taco commercial last night and IMMEDIATELY wanted to go get a couple. It was a no-brainer.

03-09-2010, 07:37 AM	#1
kenstogie following the whiterabbit Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 1,325 Trading: (3)	Coolerdor RH levels I have multiple coolerdors all with well over a lb of Heartfelt beads and recently I put 2 wireless hygrometers in one of the coolerdors. Much to my surprise I got 2 significantly different readings. 66% and 75%. I thought "wow they are way off" Put them next to each other and voila! within 1 point each. Move them around a few times with essentially the same results. Can the RH vary that much in the same container?? Am I missing something? If it can how do you equalize it? __________________ I intend to live forever. So far, so good.

03-09-2010, 07:40 AM	#2
wayner123 Country Gentleman Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 2,351 Trading: (159)	Re: Coolerdor RH levels What size are the coolidors? __________________ 'It is an honor for a man to keep aloof from strife; But every fool will be quarrelling.'

03-09-2010, 07:41 AM	#3
Emjaysmash The Hebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: M.J. Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 7,025 Trading: (76)	Re: Coolerdor RH levels Possibly a fan to move around the pockets of humidity? __________________

03-09-2010, 07:53 AM	#4
ucla695 Neither here, nor there Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Pool Posts: 3,696 Trading: (5)	Re: Coolerdor RH levels Oust fans do a good job of circulating air. I don't think they are produced anymore, but you can find them on ebay. Just be sure to clean them to remove the scent and toss the fragrance before you put them in your cooler.

03-09-2010, 08:00 AM	#5
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Coolerdor RH levels That's a new one. Weird. Looking forward to see ing what you come up with. Try each sensor in each place to make sure the sensor isn't wonky. If both sensors read 75 then 65, that'll be super double weird. The taco lover had a great idea in the oust fan. __________________

03-09-2010, 08:20 AM	#6
kenstogie following the whiterabbit Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 1,325 Trading: (3)	Re: Coolerdor RH levels They are typical size coolers 40 qrt I guess, generally just sit and are not opened much especially in the winter. They are pretty full. I have heard of the oust fans but was hoping for something requiring less maintenance. I will check back with the results/observations/findings. Posted via Mobile Device

03-09-2010, 08:22 AM	#7
kenstogie following the whiterabbit Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 1,325 Trading: (3)	Re: Coolerdor RH levels Why do you love "tacos" so much? Posted via Mobile Device

03-09-2010, 08:23 AM	#9
wayner123 Country Gentleman Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 2,351 Trading: (159)	Re: Coolerdor RH levels I have a 100qt and only a pound of beads in it. And even then only about 1/4 of the beads are wet. It may be too many beads in the cooler. __________________ 'It is an honor for a man to keep aloof from strife; But every fool will be quarrelling.'

03-09-2010, 08:27 AM	#10
Mugen910 I <3 Huy Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Location Location: First Name Posts: 8,387 Trading: (106)	Re: Coolerdor RH levels I've got two fans that I took out of my coolerdor. I don't find them useful but you are more than welcome to have them Kenstogie. __________________ I'm not antisocial, I just think people are stupid.

03-09-2010, 10:01 AM	#12
nater Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Coolerdor RH levels I am planning on running a few 12V fans in my winador on a timer a few times a day for 5 or 10 minutes.. Making sure I have the circulation I want..

03-09-2010, 10:11 AM	#13
Jack Straw Still Watching My Back Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Andrew Location: Brooklyn Posts: 111 Trading: (3)	Re: Coolerdor RH levels Is an oust fan really needed in a 40-50 qt cooler? I thought that was mainly for the giants (like 100, 120qt, etc). If so I may pick one or two up myself, but frankly I'd rather have the storage space. __________________ Overkill is consistently more fun.

03-09-2010, 10:18 AM	#17
Jack Straw Still Watching My Back Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Andrew Location: Brooklyn Posts: 111 Trading: (3)	Re: Coolerdor RH levels Thanks guys __________________ Overkill is consistently more fun.

03-09-2010, 10:20 AM	#18
longknocker Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 11,162 Trading: (82)	Re: Coolerdor RH levels Interesting Situation. I've Got One Each Of Shilala's Large Beads in Each Of My 3 Different Coolidors & They Are All 64-65% RH Throughout And Have Stayed That Way For The Last 6 Months.