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Old 07-07-2010, 11:05 AM   #1
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Hey guys,

We are having an unusually war, summer here in NS and the indoor temps have reached 79F. Since it is Canada, no one really has an a/c. So my digi hygro/thermo is reading 77F and 67% rh. Is this alright?

Also, plume or mould?
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:06 AM   #2
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Yup, that is just fine. You want it below 80˚.

I do not see any mold.
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:25 AM   #3
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Got some damn fine sticks there brother. Must be nice living in Canada and getting real CC's at the store.

Here's the deal, rumor has it anything over 74 degrees can hatch those nasty little bastards. It's a crapshoot with who you talk to about this but I do believe most will agree anything over 74 is a gamble most are not willing to take.

If you are having trouble keeping them cool during the hot days you could try your B & M and see if they have a locker you could rent for the hot months so your collection dosnt support the habit of some terrible things.

Plume or mold. I see a faint plume. It's a beautiful thing brother. I usually just wipe it off before I light up.

Wish you the best and take care of those beautiful sticks.
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Here's the deal, rumor has it anything over 74 degrees can hatch those nasty little bastards. It's a crapshoot with who you talk to about this but I do believe most will agree anything over 74 is a gamble most are not willing to take.
74F is great for the beetles. Anything over 65-66F puts you at risk for hatching. Adults have to fly to mate and at temps less than 71F they won't grow wings so they can't reproduce, but at 74F on the other hand, you'll keep the cycle going.

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http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/aez/41/1/87/_pdf
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q6TD74G9

You don't have to read the entire first pdf, just the first section of it. 18C = 68F, assume a about a 2 degree margin of error on your home thermometers (non-NIST calibrated).
Second one is an article from cigar magazine that talks a bit about the temps too.

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Old 07-07-2010, 11:57 AM   #5
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18C = 68F, assume a about a 2 degree margin of error on your home thermometers (non-NIST calibrated).
Oops, that should be 20C = 68F, was thinking one thing and writing another.
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:31 AM   #6
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Nobody here buys CC's at the store! Also, there are no real B&M's here to speak of! Put your cigars in the basement!
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:52 AM   #7
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Put your cigars in the basement!
that'd be my suggestion too.
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that'd be my suggestion too.
It's 42C with the humidity here today in Ontario and my basement is like an icebox and with the dehumidifier down here it keeps everything great!
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:57 AM   #9
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I dont see a problem if your high temp is 77. Beetles will need sustained temps above 75 for 10-14 days to hatch. If you night time temps drop below 70 you should be fine.
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I dont see a problem if your high temp is 77. Beetles will need sustained temps above 75 for 10-14 days to hatch. If you night time temps drop below 70 you should be fine.
Yet, at 20C (68F) 80% of the eggs hatch within 4 weeks.
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:52 AM   #11
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Default Re: any problems with keeping cigars at 77F

I feel you on that one..I live in New Orleans. My humidor was 75F and 65-68ish RH. I just get one medium size ice pack and wrap it with a towel and now my Humidor temp/hum is 68-70F/70RH.
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Old 07-07-2010, 02:33 PM   #12
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I hope you're using distilled water to make your ice warren....
don't wanna get mold in your humidor brotha...


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I feel you on that one..I live in New Orleans. My humidor was 75F and 65-68ish RH. I just get one medium size ice pack and wrap it with a towel and now my Humidor temp/hum is 68-70F/70RH.
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I hope you're using distilled water to make your ice warren....
don't wanna get mold in your humidor brotha...
Holy crap! Good point man. Smart.
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I'm curious as to whether or not ANY cigars in the southern hemisphere ever see temps BELOW 77....
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I'm curious as to whether or not ANY cigars in the southern hemisphere ever see temps BELOW 77....
How are temperatures drastically different in the Southern Hemisphere from those in the Northern Hemisphere?
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I'm curious as to whether or not ANY cigars in the southern hemisphere ever see temps BELOW 77....
I understand what your getting at, and I kind of agree with this. Hopin someone has some insight into this. The countries where cigars are made are very warm. Good chance alot of our cigars have been sittin in hot places for a good amount of time. From my understanding, some companies freeze the cigars to take care of any beetles, so should it really matter what temp our smokes are stored at? Lookin for any insight into this.
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I feel you on that one..I live in New Orleans. My humidor was 75F and 65-68ish RH. I just get one medium size ice pack and wrap it with a towel and now my Humidor temp/hum is 68-70F/70RH.

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I hope you're using distilled water to make your ice warren....
don't wanna get mold in your humidor brotha...
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Holy crap! Good point man. Smart.

Oy vey. Major reading comprehension & logic FAIL.

This is ice:


Which, when wrapped in a towel would still end up in a big watery mess inside the cooler, ruining most of the cigars. (Ever fill a cooler full of beer and ice? What happens to the ice?). If, by chance, the ice is placed in a sealed bag, then wrapped, it doesn't matter what it was made from, because it becomes.... <see below>

This is an ICE PACK:




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I wish I have a basement down here
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Old 07-07-2010, 12:21 PM   #19
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Ive kept mine at 76 before (Its Florida what do you expect) and havent had any problems. In some cases it actually accelerates oils rising to the surface if you like that
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Just make sure to keep them on the dry side until it cools down some.
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