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nomadicwookie 04-25-2010 04:43 PM

Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
I've never smoked the same cigar with a different wrapper before so I don't have a comparison. It's got do be something like 99% of the tobacco in a cigar is the filler though. How is it that such a small amount of tobacco contributes to the bulk of the flavor?

JJG 04-25-2010 04:58 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
personally I don't believe it to be true.

anyone want to experiment? light two identical cigars at the same time, with and without wrapper?

maninblack 04-25-2010 04:59 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
I would but don't wanna waste a good cigar.

JJG 04-25-2010 05:00 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maninblack (Post 839376)
I would but don't wanna waste a good cigar.

same here, I've pretty much weeded out all the crappy cigars from my small collection and I don't have anything I'm willing to sacrifice for the sake of science.

akumushi 04-25-2010 05:06 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
An in depth discussion on this topic was done here.

nomadicwookie 04-25-2010 05:24 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
I can't access the link. Also I was referring to something like the same vitola in a maduro versus natural like the Padron 2000 for example. Forgive me I'm a greenhorn.

bobarian 04-25-2010 05:27 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
yes

T.G 04-25-2010 05:33 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadicwookie (Post 839397)
I can't access the link. Also I was referring to something like the same vitola in a maduro versus natural like the Padron 2000 for example. Forgive me I'm a greenhorn.

Yes, there is a difference in flavor between two cigars with different wrappers that would otherwise be identical. Due to varying filler strengths and wrapper strengths, the amount of these flavor differences or their prominence can vary.

Padron2000's aren't expensive cigars, I suggest you pick up two identical sizes, ideally the corona so you can get some flavor off of it, one natural and one maduro, the next time you are at your B&M. Another good candidate is the Fuente 858 with a natural wrapper (cameroon) and a maduro wrapper.

Gonesledn 04-25-2010 05:34 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
the LA aurora 1495 is a great example. they have numerous variety of wrappers on the same blend of cigar. every one is extremely different to my tastes.


"Sampler includes five Robusto-sized cigars. One is the traditional La Aurora 1495 blend, and the other four sticks are the same binder and filler as the 1495 with four unique wrappers not available anywhere else: Cameroon, Corojo, Brazilian Maduro and Connecticut.

"How much does a wrapper change the taste of a cigar?"

This age-old question from smokers and connoisseurs is now answered in this unprecedented assortment of La Aurora 1495 Robustos. You have the opportunity to determine how four distinctive wrappers (Connecticut, Cameroon, Brazil and Corojo) affect the same blend. Compare them to each other or to the traditional 1495, wrapped with Ecaudorian Sumatra."


http://www.bestcigarprices.com/cigar.../286-21758.htm

guado 04-25-2010 08:10 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
I was about to say La Aurora. They had a "connoisseur" Collection for a while. When I saw it it was a tray with 4 cigars same filler/binder and the wrappers were different for each blend.

Apparently now its 5.

akumushi 04-25-2010 09:02 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
Maybe this link will work, otherwise, just search this forum for "what a difference a wrapper makes" there's some interesting discussion on the topic in that thread already.

Mirrorlure7m 04-25-2010 09:04 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
To help a little with the what I know and and have learned. It all depends on the cigar .. Some cigars the wrapper is 30% and some it is more and some less.

icehog3 04-25-2010 09:06 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirrorlure7m (Post 839609)
To help a little with the what I know and and have learned. It all depends on the cigar .. Some cigars the wrapper is 30% and some it is more and some less.

Some 30%, some less than 30%, some more than 30%. I can absolutely agree with that.

akumushi 04-25-2010 09:08 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 839615)
Some 30%, some less than 30%, some more than 30%. I can absolutely agree with that.

:r:r:r
That about covers it.

Skywalker 04-25-2010 09:13 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian (Post 839400)
yes

Bob's slogan - "Even better when it's wetter!!!" :r

shilala 04-25-2010 09:17 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
Adam made a very good suggestion. Try a maduro Padron x000 series and a natural.
In some cigars, tne wrapper is 100% responsible for some of the flavors.
Tom is gonna LOVE that statement. :d

cort 04-25-2010 09:18 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
The answer of course, is onions.

Kreth 04-25-2010 09:19 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
43% of statistics are made up.
Posted via Mobile Device

icehog3 04-25-2010 10:06 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 839627)
In some cigars, tne wrapper is 100% responsible for some of the flavors.
Tom is gonna LOVE that statement. :D

Another absolute! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreth (Post 839632)
43% of statistics are made up.
Posted via Mobile Device

That's only accurate 62% of the time. :2

tomc3084 04-25-2010 10:08 PM

Re: Does the wrapper really impart 60% of the flavor?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JJG (Post 839374)
personally I don't believe it to be true.

anyone want to experiment? light two identical cigars at the same time, with and without wrapper?

Wow , that is actually a great Idea....I am going to do this sometime in the near future....Ill post it here


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