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tsolomon 04-01-2009 12:40 PM

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I just purchased several boxes of the NCs that I like, but I'll reserve making any claims until I see the new prices. It might hurt my local B&M more as I will be price shopping if the increase is excessive. :2

Dgar 04-01-2009 01:00 PM

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No Boycott here, but I think I will be smoking my pipes more. Schip will effect pipe tobacco as well, but smoking a pipe will still only cost a smalll percentage of what it cost to smoke a cigar.

Bax 04-01-2009 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 14holestogie (Post 313302)
Yep, cc's all the way. :tu

Is there room for one more? :D

bookman 04-01-2009 09:51 PM

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Still, this S(hit)CHIP will be nothing like the increase during the boom with all the gouging and so on and so forth.

Waynegro1 04-01-2009 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bookman (Post 315774)
Still, this S(hit)CHIP will be nothing like the increase during the boom with all the gouging and so on and so forth.

That was "supply and demand", not a Federally sanctioned tax targeting a specific group. Next thing you know, we'll see Coffee drinkers or Meat eaters (insert your own "Propensity") targeted for taxation, all because the Federal Government deams it unhealthy for human consumption.

My :2 That's ALL
I'm starting to have palpitations. :fl

marge796 04-02-2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by shortstory5 (Post 313343)
I'll never stop buying cigars...


^^^I feel the same way^^^


Don't get me wrong **** the tax man!! :tg

Whee 04-02-2009 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by marge796 (Post 315923)
^^^I feel the same way^^^


Don't get me wrong **** the tax man!! :tg


Only if you wear that pink sweater and buy me dinner first.:r:r:r

larryinlc 04-02-2009 10:42 AM

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As I look around at the various online vendors I use regularly, I see no price changes. Possibly the large mark-up in cigars allows them to absorb the new tax??

Larry

leafandale 04-03-2009 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by larryinlc (Post 316485)
As I look around at the various online vendors I use regularly, I see no price changes. Possibly the large mark-up in cigars allows them to absorb the new tax??

Larry

No. Like someone in an earlier post stated; The tax increase is at the manufacturer level and is in effect on all shipments of cigars imported (or produced as is the case for US based makers such as Don Pepin) into the US on or after April 1. So, several cigar makers are not raising their prices until their current stock is depleted and new shipments arrive from their factories. Others have elected to raise prices on April 1. Others, such as Drew Estate, elected to raise theirs in the middle of March.

So retailers who have inventory on hand at the old price would theoretically continue to offer the old price to their customers UNTIL such a time as they receive new orders that they placed AFTER April 1.

Bottom Line: When we get a shipment in and the invoice reflects a NEW, higher price as a result of SCHIP, we will then adjust our price accordingly... and not before.

Final Note: You will notice prices going up considerably higher than the .40 cents everyone it talking about. A few reasons are added state tobacco taxes, retailer margins (we gotta pay the bills), and PRICE INCREASES THAT ARE NOT A PART OF SCHIP BY SOME CIGAR MAKERS. I won't mention any names here, but one VERY popular cigar maker has also added a price increase on their entire line IN ADDITION to the SCHIP tax.

So you will see a wide range of price increases on different brands. Tatuaje and Esencia are the only two that I know of that have elected to absorb the entire tax increase... at least for this year.

lightning9191 04-03-2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by leafandale (Post 319135)
I won't mention any names here, but one VERY popular cigar maker has also added a price increase on their entire line IN ADDITION to the SCHIP tax.

I wonder who it is? :confused:

troutbreath 04-03-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by leafandale (Post 319135)
No. Like someone in an earlier post stated; The tax increase is at the manufacturer level and is in effect on all shipments of cigars imported (or produced as is the case for US based makers such as Don Pepin) into the US on or after April 1. So, several cigar makers are not raising their prices until their current stock is depleted and new shipments arrive from their factories. Others have elected to raise prices on April 1. Others, such as Drew Estate, elected to raise theirs in the middle of March.

So retailers who have inventory on hand at the old price would theoretically continue to offer the old price to their customers UNTIL such a time as they receive new orders that they placed AFTER April 1.

Bottom Line: When we get a shipment in and the invoice reflects a NEW, higher price as a result of SCHIP, we will then adjust our price accordingly... and not before.

Final Note: You will notice prices going up considerably higher than the .40 cents everyone it talking about. A few reasons are added state tobacco taxes, retailer margins (we gotta pay the bills), and PRICE INCREASES THAT ARE NOT A PART OF SCHIP BY SOME CIGAR MAKERS. I won't mention any names here, but one VERY popular cigar maker has also added a price increase on their entire line IN ADDITION to the SCHIP tax.

So you will see a wide range of price increases on different brands. Tatuaje and Esencia are the only two that I know of that have elected to absorb the entire tax increase... at least for this year.


This is the B&M that helped me stock up the most. Thanks, Mike! Good to hear about Tatuaje -- I had already hearda bout Esencia. But, I bought a box of Esencia PC's and Tat Unicos at your store in February . . . so I guess I missed their generosity.

This is a GREAT store, if you ever find yourselves in Knoxville.

jamesb3 04-04-2009 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook (Post 313332)
I think if you boycott all you will do is hurt the people trying to run their business especially the small mom & pop B&M's.

You are spot on here Ryan. I will continue to smoke my cigars and support my B&M! 'Specially since I work there!:D

oldforge 04-04-2009 05:33 PM

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I received an email from one (fairly obscure) vendor that claimed it was Oliva who raised their prices and added a SCHIP markup. The vendor said because of that they were no longer going to carry their bundles.

I cannot vouch for the accuracy of this information so take it for whatever it is worth.

poriggity 04-04-2009 09:42 PM

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Nope, not me.. In fact, I have been buying more.. Almost all of which are from my local B&M. Yes, I pay more than I would if I ordered online, (I live in CA, and the taxes sucked before the hike, and now they suck more) but I feel like I am doing a small part to keep my local shop owner in business and I love it there.

Scott

Cigary 04-04-2009 09:46 PM

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I will still buy but will ensure that I buy when pricing is right. I use C Bid and know what I like and will get deals where available.


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