Smoking and blood thinners

ApexAZ · 11-23-2011, 04:47 PM

Anyone on blood thinners (coumadin) and still smoke? I just learned I have a blood clot in my leg.

Wondering if smoking will increase my risk and if I should stop until the clot is resolved. It seems like cig smokers are at increased risk for blood clots, but I'm wondering if it will have an adverse effect on the medication I need to take to dissolve it.

kelmac07 · 11-23-2011, 05:00 PM

Been on a plavix and aspirin regiment for over three years and my cardiologist said a cigar or two a day wouldn't hurt a thing.

ApexAZ · 11-24-2011, 01:47 PM

That's what I'm hoping my doctor will say as well.

Mugen910 · 11-24-2011, 03:40 PM

is a cigar worth risking your leg over?

mkarnold1 · 11-24-2011, 06:55 PM

The only thing I'm aware of that affects coumadin is vitamin K. As long as you keep your intake level of dark leafy greens, such as spinach or kale, at a normal level you should be fine. And the leg is not the risk, what's at risk is dislodging the clot from it's present location and having it find it's way to the lungs where it's known as a pulmonary embolism.

ApexAZ · 11-24-2011, 08:30 PM

Right. PE doesn't sound fun. I'll ask the doc when I see him next. I was curious of others have had a similar experience.

longknocker · 04-28-2012, 04:58 AM

No Matter How You Look At It, Smoking In Any Form (Cigars Or Cigarettes) Causes "Vasoconstriction". The Blood Vessels Get Smaller In Diameter & Circulation Decreases. Whether One Or Two Cigars A Day Will Hurt You Or Not Is Hard To Say. Good Luck, Brother, & Stay Healthy!

taltos · 05-14-2012, 08:03 AM

I have to agree with longknocker on the potential effects of continued smoking. In November of 2010 I had an arterial bypass in my right leg. The incision was from above the groin to my ankle. When I got out of the hospital, I noticed that if I had even 1 cigar, the next day I would notice additional swelling in both legs and elevated blood pressure even though I am on a cocktail of 2 blood pressure meds (metoprolol and lasix). I was on coumadin and aspirin but got switched to plavix and aspirin since I had 3 strokes after the surgery. It is not worth it to me to risk my health and both legs by doing much smoking. In the past year I had 4 cigars. Good luck in your treatment.

Starscream · 05-14-2012, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by taltos

I have to agree with longknocker on the potential effects of continued smoking. In November of 2010 I had an arterial bypass in my right leg. The incision was from above the groin to my ankle. When I got out of the hospital, I noticed that if I had even 1 cigar, the next day I would notice additional swelling in both legs and elevated blood pressure even though I am on a cocktail of 2 blood pressure meds (metoprolol and lasix). I was on coumadin and aspirin but got switched to plavix and aspirin since I had 3 strokes after the surgery. It is not worth it to me to risk my health and both legs by doing much smoking. In the past year I had 4 cigars. Good luck in your treatment.

Now I know I'm not the only one who still hangs out here but doesn't smoke much anymore. Good to know I'm not alone. I wish it was under different circumstances for you though, Paul.

shilala · 05-14-2012, 09:19 AM

I'd err on the side of caution, my brother. Don't take any chances with your health, a cigar is certainly not worth the risk if there's any at all.

Scottw · 05-14-2012, 08:26 PM

Been on plavix since my heart attack in March, I only smoke a cigar a week or so and have no problems. I worry more about cutting myself shaving these days though.

Mtesch · 03-31-2017, 01:55 PM

FYI* Vitamin K EFFECTS THE levels in the blood. There is Vitamin K found in smokeless tobacco... with no evidence showing when the tobacco is burned it eliminates the Vitamin K. So.... when you think about smoking just know you are inhaling Vitamin K, and YES this will absolutely effect the blood thinners ability to work properly or get a normal read on the blood tests. Just don't do it for real if you need help quitting think about what you want written in your obituary. If you are sick enough to need blood thinners don't play chicken with the reaper.

pnoon · 03-31-2017, 02:21 PM

Thanks for your expert opinion and bumping a 5 year old thread.

icehog3 · 04-01-2017, 11:26 AM

I'm more likely to play hopscotch with the reaper, but hey, that's me.

For my obituary, please put : "I knew I should not have played hopscotch with the reaper".

11-23-2011, 04:47 PM	#1
ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Smoking and blood thinners Anyone on blood thinners (coumadin) and still smoke? I just learned I have a blood clot in my leg. Wondering if smoking will increase my risk and if I should stop until the clot is resolved. It seems like cig smokers are at increased risk for blood clots, but I'm wondering if it will have an adverse effect on the medication I need to take to dissolve it.

11-23-2011, 05:00 PM	#2
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Smoking and blood thinners Been on a plavix and aspirin regiment for over three years and my cardiologist said a cigar or two a day wouldn't hurt a thing. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

11-24-2011, 01:47 PM	#3
ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Re: Smoking and blood thinners That's what I'm hoping my doctor will say as well.

11-24-2011, 03:40 PM	#4
Mugen910 I <3 Huy Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Location Location: First Name Posts: 8,387 Trading: (106)	Re: Smoking and blood thinners is a cigar worth risking your leg over? __________________ I'm not antisocial, I just think people are stupid.

11-24-2011, 06:55 PM	#5
mkarnold1 Skol Vikings! Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Mark Location: St. Charles, MN Posts: 1,015 Trading: (22)	Re: Smoking and blood thinners The only thing I'm aware of that affects coumadin is vitamin K. As long as you keep your intake level of dark leafy greens, such as spinach or kale, at a normal level you should be fine. And the leg is not the risk, what's at risk is dislodging the clot from it's present location and having it find it's way to the lungs where it's known as a pulmonary embolism. __________________ [Help out the troops!

11-24-2011, 08:30 PM	#6
ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Re: Smoking and blood thinners Right. PE doesn't sound fun. I'll ask the doc when I see him next. I was curious of others have had a similar experience.

04-28-2012, 04:58 AM	#7
longknocker Postwhore Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 11,162 Trading: (82)	Re: Smoking and blood thinners No Matter How You Look At It, Smoking In Any Form (Cigars Or Cigarettes) Causes "Vasoconstriction". The Blood Vessels Get Smaller In Diameter & Circulation Decreases. Whether One Or Two Cigars A Day Will Hurt You Or Not Is Hard To Say. Good Luck, Brother, & Stay Healthy!

05-14-2012, 08:03 AM	#8
taltos Really, really old Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: Saugus, MA Posts: 2,486 Trading: (3)	Re: Smoking and blood thinners I have to agree with longknocker on the potential effects of continued smoking. In November of 2010 I had an arterial bypass in my right leg. The incision was from above the groin to my ankle. When I got out of the hospital, I noticed that if I had even 1 cigar, the next day I would notice additional swelling in both legs and elevated blood pressure even though I am on a cocktail of 2 blood pressure meds (metoprolol and lasix). I was on coumadin and aspirin but got switched to plavix and aspirin since I had 3 strokes after the surgery. It is not worth it to me to risk my health and both legs by doing much smoking. In the past year I had 4 cigars. Good luck in your treatment. __________________ Jimmy, some of its magic, some of its tragic, but I had a good life all the way. He Went to Paris, J. Buffett

05-14-2012, 09:19 AM	#10
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Smoking and blood thinners I'd err on the side of caution, my brother. Don't take any chances with your health, a cigar is certainly not worth the risk if there's any at all. __________________

05-14-2012, 08:26 PM	#11
Scottw Going Commando Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Sussex, NJ Posts: 2,815 Trading: (6)	Re: Smoking and blood thinners Been on plavix since my heart attack in March, I only smoke a cigar a week or so and have no problems. I worry more about cutting myself shaving these days though. __________________ "Ray when someone asks you if your a GOD you say yes."

03-31-2017, 01:55 PM	#12
Mtesch Just in from the Storm Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 1 Trading: (0)	Re: Smoking and blood thinners FYI* Vitamin K EFFECTS THE levels in the blood. There is Vitamin K found in smokeless tobacco... with no evidence showing when the tobacco is burned it eliminates the Vitamin K. So.... when you think about smoking just know you are inhaling Vitamin K, and YES this will absolutely effect the blood thinners ability to work properly or get a normal read on the blood tests. Just don't do it for real if you need help quitting think about what you want written in your obituary. If you are sick enough to need blood thinners don't play chicken with the reaper.

03-31-2017, 02:21 PM	#13
pnoon YNWA Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Peter Location: San Diego Posts: 29,919 Trading: (20)	Re: Smoking and blood thinners Thanks for your expert opinion and bumping a 5 year old thread. __________________ Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are. -John Wooden

04-01-2017, 11:26 AM	#14
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,305 Trading: (60)	Re: Smoking and blood thinners I'm more likely to play hopscotch with the reaper, but hey, that's me. For my obituary, please put : "I knew I should not have played hopscotch with the reaper". __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!