The Word Puro w/Poll

shilala · 02-20-2012, 08:31 AM

I've been doing my homework on Drew Estate cigars because Ken (steelcityboy) insisted I smoke a bunch, and I'm real big on knowing what's in the cigars I smoke.
I've heard and read the word puro tossed around in connection with some of the stuff, and had the distinct impression Johnathan was creating some nic puros.
I just downloaded the Drew Estate app and was reading a blurb that says "When you light a Liga Privada No. 9 you are smoking a puro that was intended..."

I understand the #9 and T52 are made of Connecticut, Brazilian, Honduran, and Nicaraguan weed.

The word puro, in my little cigar world, has always meant that a cigar is built of tobacco from one country.
So I went and chased the etymology of the word.
In English, the noun means:

A cigar, especially one of which all the tobacco originates from the same country.

That comes from the Spanish puro, originally cigarro puro, which all means "cigar". The adjective is "pure".

My question would be, "Has anyone ever heard the word puro used to mean cigar, rather than a cigar which all it's parts are from one country?"

Blak Smyth · 02-20-2012, 08:33 AM

I always understood it to mean the same as you Scott.
And I like cake, but only in a glass of milk!

Islayphile · 02-20-2012, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blak Smyth

I always understood it to mean the same as you Scott.

Same here

shilala · 02-20-2012, 08:37 AM

Wow, I don't think I even had the pole up before you guys answered.

Islayphile · 02-20-2012, 08:42 AM

I like cake, but PIE is even better

Emjaysmash · 02-20-2012, 08:46 AM

I have always heard the term used in the US as defining a cigar with all constituent tobaccos from the same country of origin.

I have heard the word used by Cubans as the word for "cigar". If you watch Buena Vista Social Club, Compay Segundo refers to cigars as "puros".

Islayphile · 02-20-2012, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emjaysmash

I have always heard the term used in the US as defining a cigar with all constituent tobaccos from the same country of origin.

I have heard the word used by Cubans as the word for "cigar". If you watch Buena Vista Social Club, Compay Segundo refers to cigars as "puros".

I can see Cubans using the term puro to mean cigar since they don't really use leaf from anywhere else.

hotreds · 02-20-2012, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Islayphile

I can see Cubans using the term puro to mean cigar since they don't really use leaf from anywhere else.

Exactly.

kelmac07 · 02-20-2012, 09:00 AM

I understood it to be all parts of the stick are from the same country. However, I do like cake.

Garbandz · 02-20-2012, 09:04 AM

Some of my Mexican friends use Puro to mean "a cigar", any cigar........

Wow,400 posts........Do I really have that much to say ?

shilala · 02-20-2012, 09:14 AM

I knew cake would make a strong showing.

hotreds · 02-20-2012, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garbandz

Wow,400 posts........Do I really have that much to say ?

Since 2009? Apparently NOT

markem · 02-20-2012, 09:49 AM

[puro] adj. pure, uncontaminated, untainted; clean, free of dirt; absolute, utter

It is an adjective, "part of speech used to modify a noun". Ergo, it is meaningless without an explicit or implicit noun upon which to act.

A simple test would be, for example, to replace "puro" in a sentence with your chosen definition. For example, let's say we want "puro" to mean "cigar".

I smoked a rockin Nicaraguan cigar today (not bad, but not what you really intended).

Now, let's use one of the words from the definition above.

I smoked a rockin Nicaraguan pure today. Not so good. However, I think that if we made it a real adjective, we get something like this: I smoked a rockin pure Nicaraguan cigar today.

Much better, me thinks.

I tend to slant towards the rules of the Blue Book (http://www.grammarbook.com/) but can go with the flow for anyone who wants to head in the direction of Strunk and White (original is online here: http://www.crockford.com/wrrrld/style.html).

lenguamor · 02-20-2012, 10:02 AM

There are enough generic words for "cigar;" a puro is a cigar comprised entirely of tobaccos from a single country of origin.

Skywalker · 02-20-2012, 10:02 AM

Mmmm Cake!!!

BlkDrew · 02-20-2012, 10:03 AM

damn, i wanted to vote for cake, but i chose what i agreed with. That being "Puro" stands for a cigar whose make up is from one country.

Blak Smyth · 02-20-2012, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkDrew

damn, i wanted to vote for cake, but i chose what i agreed with. That being "Puro" stands for a cigar whose make up is from one country.

You could have voted for both silly!

G G · 02-20-2012, 10:06 AM

I always understood it to mean the same as you Scott, I do like cake, and it is the name of my donkey, well not really, but it's the name of a friend of mines donkey, well not really but I'm gonna see if he will change the name to Puro since it would be cool.

Frodo · 02-20-2012, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garbandz

Some of my Mexican friends use Puro to mean "a cigar", any cigar........

I've heard it used this way in Mexico as well...

ktblunden · 02-20-2012, 10:55 AM

Yep, I love Drew Estate and the LP series, but I have to disagree with Johnathan's usage of the word. Puro should mean that all the tobaccos are from the same country of origin.

View Poll Results: How do you use the word Puro?
A cigar whose parts are all from one country.	105	82.03%
It means cigar.	7	5.47%
It's my Donkey's name.	4	3.13%
I like cake.	30	23.44%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 128. You may not vote on this poll

02-20-2012, 08:31 AM	#1
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	The Word Puro w/Poll I've been doing my homework on Drew Estate cigars because Ken (steelcityboy) insisted I smoke a bunch, and I'm real big on knowing what's in the cigars I smoke. I've heard and read the word puro tossed around in connection with some of the stuff, and had the distinct impression Johnathan was creating some nic puros. I just downloaded the Drew Estate app and was reading a blurb that says "When you light a Liga Privada No. 9 you are smoking a puro that was intended..." I understand the #9 and T52 are made of Connecticut, Brazilian, Honduran, and Nicaraguan weed. The word puro, in my little cigar world, has always meant that a cigar is built of tobacco from one country. So I went and chased the etymology of the word. In English, the noun means: A cigar, especially one of which all the tobacco originates from the same country. That comes from the Spanish puro, originally cigarro puro, which all means "cigar". The adjective is "pure". My question would be, "Has anyone ever heard the word puro used to mean cigar, rather than a cigar which all it's parts are from one country?" __________________

02-20-2012, 08:33 AM	#2
Blak Smyth Think Blue! Join Date: Jun 2011 First Name: SD Location: THE WOOD Posts: 8,486 Trading: (52)	Re: The Word Puro w/Poll I always understood it to mean the same as you Scott. And I like cake, but only in a glass of milk! __________________ SUPPORT OUR TROOPS

02-20-2012, 08:37 AM	#4
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: The Word Puro w/Poll Wow, I don't think I even had the pole up before you guys answered. __________________

02-20-2012, 08:42 AM	#5
Islayphile Wee Dram Hunter Join Date: Feb 2012 First Name: Mike Location: OH Posts: 801 Trading: (1)	Re: The Word Puro w/Poll I like cake, but PIE is even better __________________ RIP Thurman Lee Munson (June 7, 1947 – August 2, 1979)

02-20-2012, 08:46 AM	#6
Emjaysmash The Hebrew Hammer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: M.J. Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 7,025 Trading: (76)	Re: The Word Puro w/Poll I have always heard the term used in the US as defining a cigar with all constituent tobaccos from the same country of origin. I have heard the word used by Cubans as the word for "cigar". If you watch Buena Vista Social Club, Compay Segundo refers to cigars as "puros". __________________

02-20-2012, 09:00 AM	#9
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: The Word Puro w/Poll I understood it to be all parts of the stick are from the same country. However, I do like cake. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

02-20-2012, 09:04 AM	#10
Garbandz Feeling at Home Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Tom Posts: 775 Trading: (53)	Re: The Word Puro w/Poll Some of my Mexican friends use Puro to mean "a cigar", any cigar........ Wow,400 posts........Do I really have that much to say ?

02-20-2012, 09:14 AM	#11
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: The Word Puro w/Poll I knew cake would make a strong showing. __________________

02-20-2012, 09:49 AM	#13
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,621 Trading: (47)	Re: The Word Puro w/Poll [puro] adj. pure, uncontaminated, untainted; clean, free of dirt; absolute, utter It is an adjective, "part of speech used to modify a noun". Ergo, it is meaningless without an explicit or implicit noun upon which to act. A simple test would be, for example, to replace "puro" in a sentence with your chosen definition. For example, let's say we want "puro" to mean "cigar". I smoked a rockin Nicaraguan cigar today (not bad, but not what you really intended). Now, let's use one of the words from the definition above. I smoked a rockin Nicaraguan pure today. Not so good. However, I think that if we made it a real adjective, we get something like this: I smoked a rockin pure Nicaraguan cigar today. Much better, me thinks. I tend to slant towards the rules of the Blue Book (http://www.grammarbook.com/) but can go with the flow for anyone who wants to head in the direction of Strunk and White (original is online here: http://www.crockford.com/wrrrld/style.html). __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

02-20-2012, 10:02 AM	#14
lenguamor puta por Ninfas! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joe Location: The 305 again! Posts: 1,030 Trading: (23)	Re: The Word Puro w/Poll There are enough generic words for "cigar;" a puro is a cigar comprised entirely of tobaccos from a single country of origin. __________________

02-20-2012, 10:02 AM	#15
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: The Word Puro w/Poll Mmmm Cake!!! __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

02-20-2012, 10:03 AM	#16
BlkDrew Rolling my own... Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Andrew Location: Rochester NY Posts: 807 Trading: (43)	Re: The Word Puro w/Poll damn, i wanted to vote for cake, but i chose what i agreed with. That being "Puro" stands for a cigar whose make up is from one country.

02-20-2012, 10:06 AM	#18
G G BR549 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Taylor, FL. Posts: 12,725 Trading: (10)	Re: The Word Puro w/Poll I always understood it to mean the same as you Scott, I do like cake, and it is the name of my donkey, well not really, but it's the name of a friend of mines donkey, well not really but I'm gonna see if he will change the name to Puro since it would be cool.

02-20-2012, 10:55 AM	#20
ktblunden Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Kevin Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 350 Trading: (6)	Re: The Word Puro w/Poll Yep, I love Drew Estate and the LP series, but I have to disagree with Johnathan's usage of the word. Puro should mean that all the tobaccos are from the same country of origin.