Boycotting the NFL in 2012

OLS · 04-11-2012, 02:26 PM

I think this is going to be a protest of one person, but I am not going to watch NFL football in 2012.
Say what you want about the Saints, as a lifetime fan, I dealt with people thinking we were the junk
of the NFL for over 40 years, and though it seems that the Saints ignored warnings and even lied about
bounties, I challenge anyone to prove to me that it was a one team deal. The punishments were egregious
to boot, with one year suspensions for 2 or more major people. This hurts Drew Brees, this hurts Saints fans,
this hurts the city of New Orleans. So the NFL can kiss my entire a$$ in 2012, and we'll see where it goes
from there. I may be done with them altogether. I gave up the NBA in the 80s and never watched another game.

smitty81 · 04-11-2012, 02:30 PM

you break the rules and get caught, you will pay the price just like anything else in life.

Why should they be above the law?

GreekGodX · 04-11-2012, 02:31 PM

Brad while I agree that other teams are doing it, Saints got caught, then tried to lie about it. I do think the NFL has been harsh on fines and suspensions but they are trying to get rid of foul play in the league.

I really don't think the Saints will be hurt that much by this. As long as they sign Brees they should be ok. He commands everyone's attention in that locker room and is a coach in himself. He'll keep the team in working order no matter who the interim coach is.

chippewastud79 · 04-11-2012, 02:47 PM

I think it helps Drew Brees more than it hurts him. Sorry to say, but it gives him a huge bargaining chip for a new deal. He runs the locker room and is the heart of the organization. They can re-sign him and save some face with the fans.

Subvet642 · 04-11-2012, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS

I think this is going to be a protest of one person, but I am not going to watch NFL football in 2012.
Say what you want about the Saints, as a lifetime fan, I dealt with people thinking we were the junk
of the NFL for over 40 years, and though it seems that the Saints ignored warnings and even lied about
bounties, I challenge anyone to prove to me that it was a one team deal. The punishments were egregious
to boot, with one year suspensions for 2 or more major people. This hurts Drew Brees, this hurts Saints fans,
this hurts the city of New Orleans. So the NFL can kiss my entire a$$ in 2012, and we'll see where it goes
from there. I may be done with them altogether. I gave up the NBA in the 80s and never watched another game.

I hear where you're coming from, but it sounds like you believe that they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions because they aren't the only ones doing it. If this is the case, then, at which point should they be held accountable? Would it therefore be reasonable to say that no one should get a speeding ticket because others get away with it?

Starscream · 04-11-2012, 02:53 PM

Brad, I can't tell you what to do here, but I don't see the reason to boycott (other than to not have to witness the pain and suffering that Saints fans will probably have to witness this year). Yes, I'm sure other teams put bounties on opposing teams' players, but they don't have players who openly broadcast it like the Saints did. It doesn't make it right, but if you're gonna have a group of people do something that is unethical, make sure you can trust everyone in that group. The Saints aren't the only team to put bounties on people, but they are the ones who slipped up and got caught, therefore they pay the price alone.

jonumberone · 04-11-2012, 02:53 PM

Well Brad, look on the bright side.
By September, that awful Three Stooges movie you're excited about, should be in the discount DVD bin at Wal-mart.

You can watch it every Sunday!

You get called in to see the man, the man tells you to stop, you say "we will", you don't, you get caught, you pay the price, end of story.
This was more about lying to the commish than the actual bounty program.

srduggins · 04-11-2012, 02:54 PM

Saints got a raw deal. Goodell is horrible for the NFL. Can't wait to see him go, but it looks like I'll be waiting a while.

smitty81 · 04-11-2012, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone

Well Brad, look on the bright side.
By September, that awful Three Stooges movie you're excited about, should be in the discount DVD bin at Wal-mart.

You get called in to see the man, the man tells you to stop, you say "we will", you don't, you get caught, you pay the price, end of story.
This was more about lying to the commish than the actual bounty program.

I'm sure that had a lot to do with it but as much publicity as this got, I think it had more to do with the bounty program. It wasn't quite hush hush exactly. Once this hit espn, the doors were blasted wide open.

yourchoice · 04-11-2012, 02:59 PM

A few sayings come to mind...

Don't let the door hit ya' where the Good Lord split ya'!
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!

Starscream · 04-11-2012, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone

Well Brad, look on the bright side.
By September, that awful Three Stooges movie you're excited about, should be in the discount DVD bin at Wal-mart.

You can watch it every Sunday!

Bageland2000 · 04-11-2012, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642

I hear where you're coming from, but it sounds like you believe that they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions because they aren't the only ones doing it. If this is the case, then, at which point should they be held accountable? Would it therefore be reasonable to say that no one should get a speeding ticket because others get away with it?

OLS · 04-11-2012, 03:09 PM

When you start a thread, you have to be ready to read anything, but I was very clear that
I understood that they ignored warnings and covered things up. I am not sure how that
translates in any way into me saying that they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions.
I am not holding my breath and pouting here. NO ONE HAS EVER gotten a punishment like this
in the history of the league. It's extreme and I don't like it. And again, while it doesn't matter
in this particular boycott, I defy anyone to show me evidence that the Saints are the only team
doing this. But again, my point is not to have anyone's approval of my boycott, with what little
effect it may have. Just saying that this punishment is over the top and they can kiss my entire A$$.

smitty81 · 04-11-2012, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS

When you start a thread, you have to be ready to read anything, but I was very clear that
I understood that they ignored warnings and covered things up. I am not holding my breath
and pouting. NO ONE HAS EVER gotten a punishment like this in the history of the league.And again, while it doesn't matter in this particular case, I defy anyone to show me evidence
that the Saints are the only team doing this.
But again, my point is not to have anyone's approval of my boycott, with what little effect
it may have. Just saying that this punishment is over the top and they can kiss my entire A$$.

Tell me the last team that has done something like this and has been caught and exposed to the public like the saints have........

OLS · 04-11-2012, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subvet642

Would it therefore be reasonable to say that no one should get a speeding ticket because others get away with it?

No, this is like saying that if you get caught speeding, a cop can shoot you in the fu(King head.
And it looks like the Saints are the only ones to get caught in that speed trap. AND THEY WERE
SPEEDING.

And look, all I am really saying is I am extremely pi$$ed off at Goodell and he will have to deal with
my boycott.

I am a 50 year old man, I do not say things like, 'it's not fair, everybody is doing it'.
I DID at one stage of my life, but there are dozens of cliche's to cover that.

smitty81 · 04-11-2012, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS

No, this is like saying that if you get caught speeding, a cop can shoot you. The Saints are the first one to get caught in that speed trap.

If they are the first ones to get caught then who are you to decide what the proper punishment is?

What are you gauging it off of?

OLS · 04-11-2012, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81

Tell me the last team that has done something like this and has been caught and exposed to the public like the saints have........

What did the Patriots get for cheating? I am not saying that anyone's health
was at risk in their cheating scam, I am asking what did they get? Do you remember?

smitty81 · 04-11-2012, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS

What did the Patriots get for cheating? I am not saying that anyone's health
was at risk in their cheating scam, I am asking what did they get? Do you remember?

comparing apples to oranges here bud.

We are talking about PEOPLES health and lives here, not cheating.

Thats like comparing robbery to murder if you will, they will get different punishments obviously.

OLS · 04-11-2012, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty81

If they are the first ones to get caught then who are you to decide what the proper punishment is?

What are you gauging it off of?

I am gauging it off of what I think is fair and what I will tolerate of it
before I get disgusted enough to stop watching football in protest.

smitty81 · 04-11-2012, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLS

I am gauging it off of what I think is fair and what I will tolerate of it
before I get disgusted enough to stop watching football in protest.

Well I guess thats YOUR choice and opinion and your entitled to them. Let's face it though, we are nobody to the NFL. They have their own judge and will set their own laws and punishments. They could care less what we think. The laws and rules are in place for a reason.

04-11-2012, 02:26 PM	#1
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Boycotting the NFL in 2012 I think this is going to be a protest of one person, but I am not going to watch NFL football in 2012. Say what you want about the Saints, as a lifetime fan, I dealt with people thinking we were the junk of the NFL for over 40 years, and though it seems that the Saints ignored warnings and even lied about bounties, I challenge anyone to prove to me that it was a one team deal. The punishments were egregious to boot, with one year suspensions for 2 or more major people. This hurts Drew Brees, this hurts Saints fans, this hurts the city of New Orleans. So the NFL can kiss my entire a$$ in 2012, and we'll see where it goes from there. I may be done with them altogether. I gave up the NBA in the 80s and never watched another game.

04-11-2012, 02:30 PM	#2
smitty81 Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,640 Trading: (10)	Re: Boycotting the NFL in 2012 you break the rules and get caught, you will pay the price just like anything else in life. Why should they be above the law?

04-11-2012, 02:31 PM	#3
GreekGodX Opa!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Christos Location: 7 Line Posts: 4,893 Trading: (82)	Re: Boycotting the NFL in 2012 Brad while I agree that other teams are doing it, Saints got caught, then tried to lie about it. I do think the NFL has been harsh on fines and suspensions but they are trying to get rid of foul play in the league. I really don't think the Saints will be hurt that much by this. As long as they sign Brees they should be ok. He commands everyone's attention in that locker room and is a coach in himself. He'll keep the team in working order no matter who the interim coach is. __________________ "If I give a businessman 10,000 francs, what is that to him, he is rich. But if I give him a Cohiba cigar, that is style."-Hotel Rwanda

04-11-2012, 02:47 PM	#4
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Boycotting the NFL in 2012 I think it helps Drew Brees more than it hurts him. Sorry to say, but it gives him a huge bargaining chip for a new deal. He runs the locker room and is the heart of the organization. They can re-sign him and save some face with the fans. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

04-11-2012, 02:53 PM	#6
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Boycotting the NFL in 2012 Brad, I can't tell you what to do here, but I don't see the reason to boycott (other than to not have to witness the pain and suffering that Saints fans will probably have to witness this year). Yes, I'm sure other teams put bounties on opposing teams' players, but they don't have players who openly broadcast it like the Saints did. It doesn't make it right, but if you're gonna have a group of people do something that is unethical, make sure you can trust everyone in that group. The Saints aren't the only team to put bounties on people, but they are the ones who slipped up and got caught, therefore they pay the price alone. __________________ Insert quote here.

04-11-2012, 02:53 PM	#7
jonumberone Raw Dog Join Date: Jun 2010 First Name: Dom Location: Exit 8A Posts: 6,484 Trading: (62)	Re: Boycotting the NFL in 2012 Well Brad, look on the bright side. By September, that awful Three Stooges movie you're excited about, should be in the discount DVD bin at Wal-mart. You can watch it every Sunday! You get called in to see the man, the man tells you to stop, you say "we will", you don't, you get caught, you pay the price, end of story. This was more about lying to the commish than the actual bounty program. __________________ Sex junkie looking for a dealer

04-11-2012, 02:54 PM	#8
srduggins Feeling at Home Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: steve Location: So. Cal. No More Posts: 504 Trading: (37)	Re: Boycotting the NFL in 2012 Saints got a raw deal. Goodell is horrible for the NFL. Can't wait to see him go, but it looks like I'll be waiting a while. __________________ ". . . but it's good, I guess, that you have the entire asylum to query, but you'll never get a straight answer out of any of us." - OLS

04-11-2012, 02:59 PM	#10
yourchoice Down the stretch Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joel Location: South Jersey Posts: 4,091 Trading: (36)	Re: Boycotting the NFL in 2012 A few sayings come to mind... Don't let the door hit ya' where the Good Lord split ya'! Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!

04-11-2012, 03:09 PM	#13
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Boycotting the NFL in 2012 When you start a thread, you have to be ready to read anything, but I was very clear that I understood that they ignored warnings and covered things up. I am not sure how that translates in any way into me saying that they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. I am not holding my breath and pouting here. NO ONE HAS EVER gotten a punishment like this in the history of the league. It's extreme and I don't like it. And again, while it doesn't matter in this particular boycott, I defy anyone to show me evidence that the Saints are the only team doing this. But again, my point is not to have anyone's approval of my boycott, with what little effect it may have. Just saying that this punishment is over the top and they can kiss my entire A$$.