Ninja Rant - Advise me, or be ninja'd

ninjavanish · 09-01-2011, 07:56 PM

I felt compelled to make a thread here and just try to garner a little advice.

So I'll go ahead and cut to the chase, I have a LOT of pride in what I do. I work hard. I bust my ass. I sacrifice time and money and sometimes my own well-being to get the job done. I also know that many of my colleagues do the same.

So here's the advice, or feedback I'm hoping to gain from you guys (and gals)

What would you do if people just automatically assumed that what you did was just garbage? Without giving you a fair chance... and not necessarily just you personally but what you do and what you make.

Would you try to take those people on? Or would you just chalk it up to people being idiots and close minded buffoons?

The pride in me says, HELL YES TAKE THEM ON... YOU KNOW BETTER and they need to learn not to be so insensitive and open their minds. But the "cooler heads prevail" part of me says "Just be calm and all will work itself out".

What do you think?

Ogre · 09-01-2011, 07:58 PM

Try to educated them to the truth. If that doesnt work, them beat them down!!!!

chand · 09-01-2011, 08:02 PM

I think 'haters gonna hate' applies here.

T.G · 09-01-2011, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjavanish

I felt compelled to make a thread here and just try to garner a little advice.

So I'll go ahead and cut to the chase, I have a LOT of pride in what I do. I work hard. I bust my ass. I sacrifice time and money and sometimes my own well-being to get the job done. I also know that many of my colleagues do the same.

So here's the advice, or feedback I'm hoping to gain from you guys (and gals)

What would you do if people just automatically assumed that what you did was just garbage? Without giving you a fair chance... and not necessarily just you personally but what you do and what you make.

Would you try to take those people on? Or would you just chalk it up to people being idiots and close minded buffoons?

The pride in me says, HELL YES TAKE THEM ON... YOU KNOW BETTER and they need to learn not to be so insensitive and open their minds. But the "cooler heads prevail" part of me says "Just be calm and all will work itself out".

What do you think?

If they are making that many assumptions already and are that vocal, their minds are probably made up and arguing with them is only going to make both of you look like retards, rather than just them.

Especially if it's online. In person, you might have a small chance, but online, eh, forget it.

Drez · 09-01-2011, 08:04 PM

Don't get to flustered about people. Let dumb people be. As long as you take pride in what you do and you are happy that is all that matters. Remember opinions are like @ssholes, everybody has one.

Like Larry said you can try to educate them and if need be then beat them down!!! Just keep a cool level head and remember that as long as you are happy then that's all that matters brother!!!!

68TriShield · 09-01-2011, 08:05 PM

That depends on who "they" are.

maninblack · 09-01-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ogre

Try to educated them to the truth. If that doesnt work, them beat them down!!!!

What Larry said. As I see it, if you're comfortable with yourself and what you do and the product you help create, to hell with them. Most of us here know you're a great guy and make great products. Like they said, haters gonna hate.

Coach Deg · 09-01-2011, 08:19 PM

There is a lot of ifs here. If the people are potential customers you have to try to educate like Larry said.

If the people are bosses you have to educate, and ask for constructive feedback( even if you disagree).

If the people are co workers educate on your way and look at their way.

If the people are any other then the above mentioned Screw'em!!!! Some people just aren't worth getting upset over. If you let people that dont matter give you too much stress it can affect your relationships with the ones that do.

NCRadioMan · 09-01-2011, 08:21 PM

Why would I care?

gbum · 09-01-2011, 08:22 PM

dont fight with the idiots,they will beat you down with their expertise and experience

09-01-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 68TriShield

That depends on who "they" are.

+1

It also depends on what you mean by "what you make" and "what you do." I'm assuming you mean career by the latter, but it could be that someone thinks you are peddling whatever and you think differently. I'm not sure if "what you make" is salary, product, or little meat pies for your aunt Gretchen.

Whatever the case, the act of stepping back like this to reflect on the situation will give you some insight all on it's own. Well done for that, at least.

Skywalker · 09-01-2011, 08:24 PM

Actually, I thought about this today, even before I read this thread! Because I got my yearly review today!

I get this a lot in my profession! But I live with the satisfaction that I know "what I do" and I know "what I make", and a handful of people in my profession actually appreciate me and know I am one of the best at what I do.

kelmac07 · 09-01-2011, 09:07 PM

I can be a hard head at times...I'd normally confront them and find the root of the morons major malfunction...but I've long given up on trying to impress those insignificant to me. As long as you are able to sleep well at night knowing that you did your best...chalk it up and move on brother...be the bigger person.

09-01-2011, 09:31 PM

Idiots are idiots. Continue to make yourself happy brother, and hopefully the people who actually do matter at work see and appreciate what you do. If you are happy with what you do, continue to do it, and do it well. Who cares what "they" think. Remind yourself that "they" are morons. Hope this helps and all works out Jeremy.

ninjavanish · 09-01-2011, 09:38 PM

Thanks for the advice all. I think I've found what I was looking for... just some relevant semi-unbiased opinions about life and the pursuit of happiness.

I really tend to lean more towards the "cooler head prevail" side of things. Of course this doesn't mean I don't have passion (And a LOT of it) for what I do. But in my meager experience, I've found that when you're right, you don't even have to say anything.

And I know I'm right, so that's the end of it then really.

I appreciate all the cheers and jeers. Hehe, now for all you who didn't offer advice, you could be next in the ninja's sights. Watch yourselves!

loki · 09-01-2011, 09:45 PM

how is this cigar related

pektel · 09-01-2011, 09:47 PM

Forget that isht about being in your sights! I was busy making a pot of (hopefully) badass chili.

Here's my experience: if I disagree with someone, they have about two minutes to change my mind. And vice versa. If you can't change my view in two minutes, anything afterwards is just wasting both of our times.

So that's my input. If YOU know you are right, that's good enough. If they don't agree... F*ck 'em!

ninjavanish · 09-01-2011, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loki

how is this cigar related

Keep asking questions like that and you may soon find out! :P

Ogre · 09-01-2011, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjavanish

Keep asking questions like that and you may soon find out! :P

It must be bad if you keep throwing out threats like that!

09-01-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ogre

It must be bad if you keep throwing out threats like that!

Jeremy is very unfair when he plays. He can be scary...

09-01-2011, 07:56 PM	#1
ninjavanish Feeling at Home Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Trust me, your humi isn't big enough. Posts: 507 Trading: (16)	Ninja Rant - Advise me, or be ninja'd I felt compelled to make a thread here and just try to garner a little advice. So I'll go ahead and cut to the chase, I have a LOT of pride in what I do. I work hard. I bust my ass. I sacrifice time and money and sometimes my own well-being to get the job done. I also know that many of my colleagues do the same. So here's the advice, or feedback I'm hoping to gain from you guys (and gals) What would you do if people just automatically assumed that what you did was just garbage? Without giving you a fair chance... and not necessarily just you personally but what you do and what you make. Would you try to take those people on? Or would you just chalk it up to people being idiots and close minded buffoons? The pride in me says, HELL YES TAKE THEM ON... YOU KNOW BETTER and they need to learn not to be so insensitive and open their minds. But the "cooler heads prevail" part of me says "Just be calm and all will work itself out". What do you think?

09-01-2011, 07:58 PM	#2
Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: Ninja Rant - Advise me, or be ninja'd Try to educated them to the truth. If that doesnt work, them beat them down!!!! __________________

09-01-2011, 08:02 PM	#3
chand Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Damian Location: Dover, DE Posts: 470 Trading: (22)	Re: Ninja Rant - Advise me, or be ninja'd I think 'haters gonna hate' applies here.

09-01-2011, 08:04 PM	#5
Drez The Warden Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Frank Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,768 Trading: (35)	Re: Ninja Rant - Advise me, or be ninja'd Don't get to flustered about people. Let dumb people be. As long as you take pride in what you do and you are happy that is all that matters. Remember opinions are like @ssholes, everybody has one. Like Larry said you can try to educate them and if need be then beat them down!!! Just keep a cool level head and remember that as long as you are happy then that's all that matters brother!!!! __________________ They aren't going to multiply....burn that b!tch!

09-01-2011, 08:05 PM	#6
68TriShield Got Torque? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Maryland Posts: 7,194 Trading: (40)	Re: Ninja Rant - Advise me, or be ninja'd That depends on who "they" are. Last edited by 68TriShield; 09-01-2011 at 08:13 PM.

09-01-2011, 08:19 PM	#8
Coach Deg C O W eieio. Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Mike Location: Hudson, FL Posts: 2,853 Trading: (59)	Re: Ninja Rant - Advise me, or be ninja'd There is a lot of ifs here. If the people are potential customers you have to try to educate like Larry said. If the people are bosses you have to educate, and ask for constructive feedback( even if you disagree). If the people are co workers educate on your way and look at their way. If the people are any other then the above mentioned Screw'em!!!! Some people just aren't worth getting upset over. If you let people that dont matter give you too much stress it can affect your relationships with the ones that do.

09-01-2011, 08:21 PM	#9
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,277 Trading: (66)	Re: Ninja Rant - Advise me, or be ninja'd Why would I care? __________________ The path to loyalty is trust.

09-01-2011, 08:22 PM	#10
gbum Feeling at Home Join Date: Jul 2009 First Name: Asyraf Location: Cyberjaya-Malaysia Posts: 772 Trading: (0)	Re: Ninja Rant - Advise me, or be ninja'd dont fight with the idiots,they will beat you down with their expertise and experience __________________ http://mrgbum.wordpress.com

09-01-2011, 08:24 PM	#12
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: Ninja Rant - Advise me, or be ninja'd Actually, I thought about this today, even before I read this thread! Because I got my yearly review today! I get this a lot in my profession! But I live with the satisfaction that I know "what I do" and I know "what I make", and a handful of people in my profession actually appreciate me and know I am one of the best at what I do. __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

09-01-2011, 09:07 PM	#13
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Ninja Rant - Advise me, or be ninja'd I can be a hard head at times...I'd normally confront them and find the root of the morons major malfunction...but I've long given up on trying to impress those insignificant to me. As long as you are able to sleep well at night knowing that you did your best...chalk it up and move on brother...be the bigger person. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

09-01-2011, 09:31 PM	#14
lyle23 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ninja Rant - Advise me, or be ninja'd Idiots are idiots. Continue to make yourself happy brother, and hopefully the people who actually do matter at work see and appreciate what you do. If you are happy with what you do, continue to do it, and do it well. Who cares what "they" think. Remind yourself that "they" are morons. Hope this helps and all works out Jeremy.

09-01-2011, 09:38 PM	#15
ninjavanish Feeling at Home Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Trust me, your humi isn't big enough. Posts: 507 Trading: (16)	Re: Ninja Rant - Advise me, or be ninja'd Thanks for the advice all. I think I've found what I was looking for... just some relevant semi-unbiased opinions about life and the pursuit of happiness. I really tend to lean more towards the "cooler head prevail" side of things. Of course this doesn't mean I don't have passion (And a LOT of it) for what I do. But in my meager experience, I've found that when you're right, you don't even have to say anything. And I know I'm right, so that's the end of it then really. I appreciate all the cheers and jeers. Hehe, now for all you who didn't offer advice, you could be next in the ninja's sights. Watch yourselves!

09-01-2011, 09:45 PM	#16
loki H.A.T.E Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh pa Posts: 1,484 Trading: (7)	Re: Ninja Rant - Advise me, or be ninja'd how is this cigar related

09-01-2011, 09:47 PM	#17
pektel I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Peter Location: Grand Rapids, MN Posts: 4,320 Trading: (28)	Re: Ninja Rant - Advise me, or be ninja'd Forget that isht about being in your sights! I was busy making a pot of (hopefully) badass chili. Here's my experience: if I disagree with someone, they have about two minutes to change my mind. And vice versa. If you can't change my view in two minutes, anything afterwards is just wasting both of our times. So that's my input. If YOU know you are right, that's good enough. If they don't agree... F*ck 'em! __________________ The problem is not the problem. The problem is your ATTITUDE about the problem.