Type 2 Diabetes and Cigars

hikari · 04-19-2021, 11:42 AM

Hey guys, some of you know me. It's been a while. I've been debating something the past year wanted to throw it out there and see what you guys think.

I've been a cigar smoker for I would say 20 years kids are 16 now. Mostly smoke Cubans always have some aging.

About two years ago, I was diagnosed with type 2 Diabetes. We caught it early, and everything is good. Still on some medication, but again everything is good.

With that said, I feel as though I do not taste my cigars as well as I sued to prior. I've been putting two and two together lately, and I would say it's around the same time I was diagnosed and started taking medication.

Has anyone else gone through this? I'm wondering if the medication is doing something. I'm prone to smoking the same cigars Pantages and Hoyo de Monterrey. At first, I was like, ok, maybe I'm just too used to these. I joined the Privada cigar club so that I can get some various cigars for tasting/testing. That didn't seem to do it.

What your guys take on this? I am a 46-year-old smoking only cigars for 20 years with type 2 diabetes

CigarNut · 04-19-2021, 11:54 AM

I have the palette of a goat, so I'm not sure how good my feedback will be. I did not notice anything with the introduction of diabetes meds. Not to say that this is not the case for you -- everyone is different. Have you noticed taste differences with foods?

One other thing worth noting: as you get older your tastebuds atrophy so that could (also) be a factor. I would say that this is probably a the biggest factor for me.

Havanaaddict · 04-19-2021, 12:51 PM

First off what kind of meds are you taking?

I am totally in a different boat than you, I am a Type 1 diabetic and have been for 30 years. But I take insulin injections and do not or every had tasting issues.

One drug known to be excreted into saliva and to cause taste disturbance is metformin. Some people who take this medication complain of a metallic taste in their mouth.

My guess is you are taking a pill or more every day that may be causing the problem. But you have to take them to keep your pancreas stimulated. You could ask your doctor if you could try a different Med and give it a few months to see if you notice a change!!!

icehog3 · 04-19-2021, 05:18 PM

I've never had to take any medication regularly. I have notice loss of taste when taking anti-biotics, but realize that's apples and oranges. Hope you can get it figured out Thomas.

EdTexas · 04-20-2021, 12:03 PM

Been type 2 since I was like 20 and 48 now. I can only taste so,e notes om cigars like cedar, earth, leather, pepper, and chocolate. Same with whiskey. Just mainly oak and vanilla. If you are on meds, those kinda things can mess with ya or you are overanalyzing things and your mind is tricking you. You should be glad you got it taken care of. I was bad about mine and half-ass did things to control t and I have paid the tolls for doing that.

cmitch · 04-20-2021, 12:20 PM

My 15 yo daughter is a hybrid diabetic. That means she has insulin dependence of type 1 with insulin resistance of type 2. We treat the type 2 side with metformin which she said has noticeably blunted her taste. Insulin itself will not do that. She is on the omnipod pump system so she doesn't need Lantus. The pump gives an hourly BOLUS of about 1.05 units of Novolog. If you are taking metformin, that's probably it.

Tio Gato · 04-20-2021, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I've never had to take any medication regularly.

Not counting those little blue pills heh?

T.G · 04-20-2021, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tio Gato

Not counting those little blue pills heh?

Taking those regularly while alone probably isn't that much fun.

mosesbotbol · 04-21-2021, 08:31 AM

I saddens me to read so many members are in this situation.

icehog3 · 04-21-2021, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Tio Gato

Not counting those little blue pills heh?

Aleve?

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Originally Posted by T.G

Taking those regularly while alone probably isn't that much fun.

I got A GF, ask Jeff.

hikari · 04-21-2021, 09:27 PM

Thank you for all the feed back.

Yes I’m on Metformin twice a day and Ozempic injection once a week.

I really thought it was me just getting used to what I was smoking. Really thought about more into it when I went domestic for testing and didn’t notice much.

May order some other kinds of Cubans here shortly as another test.

But Yhea maybe it’s age mixed with the meds that are doing it.
I’m now wondering if I need to go heavier on the notes to see if it makes a difference .

Thanks again for the support and feedback

icehog3 · 04-21-2021, 09:31 PM

Lemme know if there's anything you're looking for for the test, Thomas.

hikari · 04-22-2021, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Lemme know if there's anything you're looking for for the test, Thomas.

Thanks buddy not to sure yet don’t know if I should go extremes or work my way.
Any suggestions ..

icehog3 · 04-22-2021, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by hikari

Thanks buddy not to sure yet don’t know if I should go extremes or work my way.
Any suggestions ..

From the non-Cuban genre, I have some Caldwell Long Live the King Heaters that have a solid and distinct nut flavor, sometimes cashew or other savory nut flavors (phrasing). If you can't taste the nuts in one of these (phrasing), your taste buds definitely aren't firing on high.

hikari · 04-22-2021, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

From the non-Cuban genre, I have some Caldwell Long Live the King Heaters that have a solid and distinct nut flavor, sometimes cashew or other savory nut flavors (phrasing). If you can't taste the nuts in one of these (phrasing), your taste buds definitely aren't firing on high.

Exactly what I'm looking for something to put it to a test.
Thanks for the suggestion.

icehog3 · 04-23-2021, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hikari

Exactly what I'm looking for something to put it to a test.
Thanks for the suggestion.

I can send you a couple if you like. I usually get them below MSRP on CBid.

04-19-2021, 11:42 AM	#1
hikari Still Watching My Back Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: North Hollywood CA Posts: 108 Trading: (0)	Type 2 Diabetes and Cigars Hey guys, some of you know me. It's been a while. I've been debating something the past year wanted to throw it out there and see what you guys think. I've been a cigar smoker for I would say 20 years kids are 16 now. Mostly smoke Cubans always have some aging. About two years ago, I was diagnosed with type 2 Diabetes. We caught it early, and everything is good. Still on some medication, but again everything is good. With that said, I feel as though I do not taste my cigars as well as I sued to prior. I've been putting two and two together lately, and I would say it's around the same time I was diagnosed and started taking medication. Has anyone else gone through this? I'm wondering if the medication is doing something. I'm prone to smoking the same cigars Pantages and Hoyo de Monterrey. At first, I was like, ok, maybe I'm just too used to these. I joined the Privada cigar club so that I can get some various cigars for tasting/testing. That didn't seem to do it. What your guys take on this? I am a 46-year-old smoking only cigars for 20 years with type 2 diabetes

04-19-2021, 11:54 AM	#2
CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,042 Trading: (111*)	Re: Type 2 Diabetes and Cigars I have the palette of a goat, so I'm not sure how good my feedback will be. I did not notice anything with the introduction of diabetes meds. Not to say that this is not the case for you -- everyone is different. Have you noticed taste differences with foods? One other thing worth noting: as you get older your tastebuds atrophy so that could (also) be a factor. I would say that this is probably a the biggest factor for me. __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

04-19-2021, 12:51 PM	#3
Havanaaddict Man in Black!!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: V.I.P Room Partagas Factory Posts: 3,449 Trading: (1)	Re: Type 2 Diabetes and Cigars First off what kind of meds are you taking? I am totally in a different boat than you, I am a Type 1 diabetic and have been for 30 years. But I take insulin injections and do not or every had tasting issues. One drug known to be excreted into saliva and to cause taste disturbance is metformin. Some people who take this medication complain of a metallic taste in their mouth. My guess is you are taking a pill or more every day that may be causing the problem. But you have to take them to keep your pancreas stimulated. You could ask your doctor if you could try a different Med and give it a few months to see if you notice a change!!! __________________ "If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions." "Hav-a-na nice day"

04-19-2021, 05:18 PM	#4
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,293 Trading: (60)	Re: Type 2 Diabetes and Cigars I've never had to take any medication regularly. I have notice loss of taste when taking anti-biotics, but realize that's apples and oranges. Hope you can get it figured out Thomas. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

04-20-2021, 12:03 PM	#5
EdTexas formerly Nocturnus Join Date: May 2010 First Name: Ed Location: Beaumont Posts: 8 Trading: (0)	Re: Type 2 Diabetes and Cigars Been type 2 since I was like 20 and 48 now. I can only taste so,e notes om cigars like cedar, earth, leather, pepper, and chocolate. Same with whiskey. Just mainly oak and vanilla. If you are on meds, those kinda things can mess with ya or you are overanalyzing things and your mind is tricking you. You should be glad you got it taken care of. I was bad about mine and half-ass did things to control t and I have paid the tolls for doing that. __________________ ---------- Ed

04-20-2021, 12:20 PM	#6
cmitch Heads up get down Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Clayton Location: NW Alabama by the river Posts: 2,720 Trading: (25)	Re: Type 2 Diabetes and Cigars My 15 yo daughter is a hybrid diabetic. That means she has insulin dependence of type 1 with insulin resistance of type 2. We treat the type 2 side with metformin which she said has noticeably blunted her taste. Insulin itself will not do that. She is on the omnipod pump system so she doesn't need Lantus. The pump gives an hourly BOLUS of about 1.05 units of Novolog. If you are taking metformin, that's probably it. __________________ No matter what one's status is in society, cigars are the great equalizer where the affluent and common share a love for the leaf. - Me.

04-21-2021, 08:31 AM	#9
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Type 2 Diabetes and Cigars I saddens me to read so many members are in this situation. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

04-21-2021, 09:27 PM	#11
hikari Still Watching My Back Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: North Hollywood CA Posts: 108 Trading: (0)	Re: Type 2 Diabetes and Cigars Thank you for all the feed back. Yes I’m on Metformin twice a day and Ozempic injection once a week. I really thought it was me just getting used to what I was smoking. Really thought about more into it when I went domestic for testing and didn’t notice much. May order some other kinds of Cubans here shortly as another test. But Yhea maybe it’s age mixed with the meds that are doing it. I’m now wondering if I need to go heavier on the notes to see if it makes a difference . Thanks again for the support and feedback

04-21-2021, 09:31 PM	#12
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,293 Trading: (60)	Re: Type 2 Diabetes and Cigars Lemme know if there's anything you're looking for for the test, Thomas. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!