Ever had a red ash before?

rizzle · 01-24-2011, 09:25 AM

That's right. Red. Or pinkish-red to be exact. Happened to me yesterday and unfortunately I didn't have a camera to record it.

Background: A couple years ago I picked up an 09 Camacho Liberty in a coffin, and having never seen any water/condensation in the bottom of my vino, just slid it right in there under the lowest shelf when I got home. Was a perfect little spot...I thought. So a few weeks later I got to playing tetris and when I pulled the coffin out the bottom of it was wet, I looked inside and the cigar was wet as hell, and I thought damn, ruined a $15 stick. You couldn't even read the label anymore. So I pulled it out of the coffin to let it "dry" some and then dropped it into a singles box where it has been until yesterday.

So I figured I'd give it a shot yesterday, and worst case scenario get it the hell out of the humi. I wasn't confident and so I grabbed another stick just in case this one didn't work out. I lit her up, tasted like a "normal" cigar. Took a couple of draws and looked at the ash and started to notice something funny. The ash was freaking red. Huh? It stayed that way for about an inch then turned white. Back to normal I suppose. Then as I neared the nub, with about 2 inches of the cigar left, it turned red again. Strangest damn thing I've ever seen. Tasted normal, it was pretty good actually. Now I don't know if from the water damage it tasted like it should have, but it wasn't bad at all.

Anybody else ever have anything like this happen? Or have any ideas as to why this happened? Gotta admit, it was kinda cool. Odd, but cool.

chippewastud79 · 01-24-2011, 09:43 AM

Saw purple ash and smoke once, but then again the cigar was purple.

wayner123 · 01-24-2011, 10:21 AM

The only cigar this has happened to me on is the Brickhouse. It wasn't red ash but a yellow one. Looked like yellow fiberglass. It hasn't happened on every brickhouse, but at least 3 of them have done this.

Sauer Grapes · 01-24-2011, 10:31 AM

My totally uneducated guess is that there is some mineral in the soil where the brickhouses are grown. As far as the Camacho, it could be a similar situation, or it could be that the water imparted a mineral, or something else into the wrapper/filler of the Camacho. Since I'm making uneducated guesses, it could even have been mold or something similar on the Camacho.

Bageland2000 · 01-24-2011, 10:43 AM

Could the ink from the label have somehow stain the cigar?

kaisersozei · 01-24-2011, 01:31 PM

Rizzle smoked a Twizzler?

I got nuthin'

longknocker · 01-24-2011, 01:48 PM

Sure You Weren't Drinking A Little Somethin', Somethin', Brother?

Never Seen It, Myself.

rizzle · 01-24-2011, 02:00 PM

Heh, for a minute I thought I was smoking something other than a cigar, but I wasn't getting buzzed.

No, it was red. I think it was coming from the binder, personally. And as was posited above, maybe some kind of mineral/chemical reaction from the water/coffin/tobacco. No idea.

01-24-2011, 04:37 PM

interesting Rich!

bobarian · 01-24-2011, 04:40 PM

Oh, red ASH...never mind.

CRIMPS · 01-24-2011, 05:13 PM

I vote for the label ink running.

The Poet · 01-24-2011, 05:25 PM

Some years back I purchased a box of Flor de A. Allones Favoritas. I smoked the first one out of the box while walking about waiting for my Easter ham to cook. The ash, swear to God, was pink.

Maybe it was minerals in the soil, maybe it was a consequence of the holiday season, or maybe it was because I was puffing on an empty stomach. Still, I swear to this day it was pink. So if you say that's yours was red, I believe you brother.

Tio Gato · 01-24-2011, 05:29 PM

I had a red ash once, but it went away after seeing my dermatologist.

Don Fernando · 01-24-2011, 05:32 PM

never had red ash, had hemorrhoids once though

taltos · 01-24-2011, 07:40 PM

Gold Bond powder works for me.

floydpink · 01-24-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by taltos

Gold Bond powder works for me.

Gold Bond is decent, but this is better... check out the redness on this chimps ash

akumushi · 01-24-2011, 08:09 PM

I got this a while back from a Dominican Cohiba, I asked about it on another forum and only got smart ass replies. It's hard to see in the pic, but I did take some. It looked like the wrapper was powdered with something pink or reddish that didn't show until it was smoked. You can see it best on the part of the ash that is still connected to the cigar. Iron can show up red when oxidized (think rust) so whatever caused it, either the soil or something that was sprayed on the leaf, it probably had some kind of iron content that wound up on the cigar, only showing up once it was oxidized (burned).

scoot · 01-25-2011, 08:36 AM

My gut would say its a leaf's mineral content, but I'm no botanist. Could it maybe be due to incomplete combustion to a degree?
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rizzle · 01-25-2011, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRIMPS

I vote for the label ink running.

Nah, suppose it's possible but I just don't think that is what happened.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Poet

Some years back I purchased a box of Flor de A. Allones Favoritas. I smoked the first one out of the box while walking about waiting for my Easter ham to cook. The ash, swear to God, was pink.

Maybe it was minerals in the soil, maybe it was a consequence of the holiday season, or maybe it was because I was puffing on an empty stomach. Still, I swear to this day it was pink. So if you say that's yours was red, I believe you brother.

Awesome. I'm not crazy afterall.

Quote:

Originally Posted by akumushi

I got this a while back from a Dominican Cohiba, I asked about it on another forum and only got smart ass replies. It's hard to see in the pic, but I did take some. It looked like the wrapper was powdered with something pink or reddish that didn't show until it was smoked. You can see it best on the part of the ash that is still connected to the cigar. Iron can show up red when oxidized (think rust) so whatever caused it, either the soil or something that was sprayed on the leaf, it probably had some kind of iron content that wound up on the cigar, only showing up once it was oxidized (burned).

Clayton, unless your picture just isn't doing it justice, my situation was way more severe than this. But I do see what you're talking about. This ash was vivid pinkish red. And your explanation makes sense to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoot

My gut would say its a leaf's mineral content, but I'm no botanist. Could it maybe be due to incomplete combustion to a degree?
Posted via Mobile Device

I think this is the explanation we'll agree on for now. Just weird that it wasn't the whole cigar. Only about the first inch and the last two or so.

Col. Kurtz · 01-25-2011, 01:47 PM

Ritchie,

I saw it one time on a PSD4. I'd compare it to a light brick red tint. Kind of cool, and the BEST PSD I've ever had. Wish I knew which ones were going to do it.

01-24-2011, 09:25 AM	#1
rizzle Order Restored Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: st pete, fl Posts: 2,679 Trading: (23)	Ever had a red ash before? That's right. Red. Or pinkish-red to be exact. Happened to me yesterday and unfortunately I didn't have a camera to record it. Background: A couple years ago I picked up an 09 Camacho Liberty in a coffin, and having never seen any water/condensation in the bottom of my vino, just slid it right in there under the lowest shelf when I got home. Was a perfect little spot...I thought. So a few weeks later I got to playing tetris and when I pulled the coffin out the bottom of it was wet, I looked inside and the cigar was wet as hell, and I thought damn, ruined a $15 stick. You couldn't even read the label anymore. So I pulled it out of the coffin to let it "dry" some and then dropped it into a singles box where it has been until yesterday. So I figured I'd give it a shot yesterday, and worst case scenario get it the hell out of the humi. I wasn't confident and so I grabbed another stick just in case this one didn't work out. I lit her up, tasted like a "normal" cigar. Took a couple of draws and looked at the ash and started to notice something funny. The ash was freaking red. Huh? It stayed that way for about an inch then turned white. Back to normal I suppose. Then as I neared the nub, with about 2 inches of the cigar left, it turned red again. Strangest damn thing I've ever seen. Tasted normal, it was pretty good actually. Now I don't know if from the water damage it tasted like it should have, but it wasn't bad at all. Anybody else ever have anything like this happen? Or have any ideas as to why this happened? Gotta admit, it was kinda cool. Odd, but cool.

01-24-2011, 09:43 AM	#2
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: Ever had a red ash before? Saw purple ash and smoke once, but then again the cigar was purple. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

01-24-2011, 10:21 AM	#3
wayner123 Country Gentleman Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 2,351 Trading: (159)	Re: Ever had a red ash before? The only cigar this has happened to me on is the Brickhouse. It wasn't red ash but a yellow one. Looked like yellow fiberglass. It hasn't happened on every brickhouse, but at least 3 of them have done this. __________________ 'It is an honor for a man to keep aloof from strife; But every fool will be quarrelling.'

01-24-2011, 10:31 AM	#4
Sauer Grapes Snatchin' yo people up Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,235 Trading: (44)	Re: Ever had a red ash before? My totally uneducated guess is that there is some mineral in the soil where the brickhouses are grown. As far as the Camacho, it could be a similar situation, or it could be that the water imparted a mineral, or something else into the wrapper/filler of the Camacho. Since I'm making uneducated guesses, it could even have been mold or something similar on the Camacho.

01-24-2011, 10:43 AM	#5
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01-24-2011, 01:31 PM	#6
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01-24-2011, 01:48 PM	#7
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01-24-2011, 02:00 PM	#8
rizzle Order Restored Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: st pete, fl Posts: 2,679 Trading: (23)	Re: Ever had a red ash before? Heh, for a minute I thought I was smoking something other than a cigar, but I wasn't getting buzzed. No, it was red. I think it was coming from the binder, personally. And as was posited above, maybe some kind of mineral/chemical reaction from the water/coffin/tobacco. No idea.

01-24-2011, 04:37 PM	#9
whodeeni Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ever had a red ash before? interesting Rich!

01-24-2011, 04:40 PM	#10
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Ever had a red ash before? Oh, red ASH...never mind.

01-24-2011, 05:13 PM	#11
CRIMPS Benn/Seguin best friends Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: Zach Location: North Texas Posts: 1,520 Trading: (50)	Re: Ever had a red ash before? I vote for the label ink running. __________________ I'm a Dallas Stars fan. So, yes, this is a confusing time for me.

01-24-2011, 05:25 PM	#12
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: Ever had a red ash before? Some years back I purchased a box of Flor de A. Allones Favoritas. I smoked the first one out of the box while walking about waiting for my Easter ham to cook. The ash, swear to God, was pink. Maybe it was minerals in the soil, maybe it was a consequence of the holiday season, or maybe it was because I was puffing on an empty stomach. Still, I swear to this day it was pink. So if you say that's yours was red, I believe you brother.

01-24-2011, 05:29 PM	#13
Tio Gato Uncle Kitty Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeff Location: Casa Grande, AZ Posts: 2,075 Trading: (11)	Re: Ever had a red ash before? I had a red ash once, but it went away after seeing my dermatologist. __________________ "You stink like cigars Uncle Kitty!" Said my Boo age 3. "Kid, take care of your family and the hell with anyone else" My Grandpa Bubba.

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01-24-2011, 07:40 PM	#15
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01-24-2011, 08:09 PM	#17
akumushi Habanos Apologist Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,298 Trading: (11)	Re: Ever had a red ash before? I got this a while back from a Dominican Cohiba, I asked about it on another forum and only got smart ass replies. It's hard to see in the pic, but I did take some. It looked like the wrapper was powdered with something pink or reddish that didn't show until it was smoked. You can see it best on the part of the ash that is still connected to the cigar. Iron can show up red when oxidized (think rust) so whatever caused it, either the soil or something that was sprayed on the leaf, it probably had some kind of iron content that wound up on the cigar, only showing up once it was oxidized (burned). __________________ "Eventually, however, every ash must drop. And the drop usually is as sudden as it is final." Last edited by akumushi; 01-24-2011 at 08:14 PM.

01-25-2011, 08:36 AM	#18
scoot Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pat Location: Philadelphia Posts: 142 Trading: (0)	Re: Ever had a red ash before? My gut would say its a leaf's mineral content, but I'm no botanist. Could it maybe be due to incomplete combustion to a degree? Posted via Mobile Device

01-25-2011, 01:47 PM	#20
Col. Kurtz Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jerry Location: South Appleton Posts: 1,839 Trading: (26)	Re: Ever had a red ash before? Ritchie, I saw it one time on a PSD4. I'd compare it to a light brick red tint. Kind of cool, and the BEST PSD I've ever had. Wish I knew which ones were going to do it. __________________ Artillery Lends Dignity to What Would Otherwise Be a Vulgar Brawl