911 call that went bad.

smitty81 · 04-19-2012, 09:09 AM

This is an interesting article. I did some googling around on this incident and it seems there are two sides of the story. Seems to me the cop needs better training.

http://gma.yahoo.com/austin-police-c...opstories.html

Thoughts?

Skywalker · 04-19-2012, 09:25 AM

"He was a good boy!"

Blak Smyth · 04-19-2012, 09:28 AM

I feel bad for the dog owner as well as the officer.

smitty81 · 04-19-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth

I feel bad for the dog owner as well as the officer.

I don't really feel bad for the officer, this incident could have been avoided if he wasn't so gun-ho.

There was nothing going on at the address he was sent to. Don't understand why he had he gun drawn on the guy in the first place.

Whee · 04-19-2012, 09:37 AM

I think if you're not an LEO or have never been an LEO, to presume that he was "gun-ho" or poorly trained is wrong.

Respond to a 911 and be prepared for anything. Or end up shot by someone acting like nothing is wrong.

smitty81 · 04-19-2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by illinoishoosier

I think if you're not an LEO or have never been an LEO, to presume that he was "gun-ho" or poorly trained is wrong.

Respond to a 911 and be prepared for anything. Or end up shot by someone acting like nothing is wrong.

So you just pull your gun on someone on every call you go to?

The guy never ran, resisted, hid, argued............

never_enough · 04-19-2012, 09:52 AM

Sucks all around.

And it makes me miss my dog, his name was Cisco.

14holestogie · 04-19-2012, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

So you just pull your gun on someone on every call you go to?

The guy never ran, resisted, hid, argued............

If you're coming into an unidentified 911 situation, absolutely.

icehog3 · 04-19-2012, 10:15 AM

Like people are saying, if you have never been a cop and have no LEO training, your opinion on the cop is pretty meaningless to those of us that have.

I agree with Shane, I feel bad for them both. I am sure the officer feels like sh!t.

hotreds · 04-19-2012, 10:16 AM

tragic

Remo · 04-19-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

I don't really feel bad for the officer, this incident could have been avoided if he wasn't so gun-ho.

There was nothing going on at the address he was sent to. Don't understand why he had he gun drawn on the guy in the first place.

Not responding to this for fear of being banned from CA.

icehog3 · 04-19-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Remo_5_0

Not responding to this for fear of being banned from CA.

Just someone who knows nothing about it weighing in with their opinion, Mike.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion even if they know nothing about the subject, right?

pnoon · 04-19-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Like people are saying, if you have never been a cop and have no LEO training, your opinion on the cop is pretty meaningless to those of us that have.

AND to many of us who haven't.

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smitty81 · 04-19-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

AND to many of us who haven't.

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To each their own. I don't like the opinions of others here as well but they are entitled to them rather I like them or not.

Water off a ducks back.

smitty81 · 04-19-2012, 10:51 AM

Just for the record, I don't hate cops. In fact, I respect them for what they do. I just felt this could have been avoided and the situation got out of hand.

jluck · 04-19-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

To each their own. I don't like the opinions of others here as well but they are entitled to them rather I like them or not.

Water off a ducks back.

Put the shovel down, Josh.

14holestogie · 04-19-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jluck

Put the shovel down, Josh.

^ this

Remo · 04-19-2012, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

To each their own. I don't like the opinions of others here as well but they are entitled to them rather I like them or not.

Water off a ducks back.

Yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but someone's opinion should be on a topic that they at least know something about, I try only to chime in with my opinion on things that I may have some knowledge about... for instance you will never see me have an opinion on CC's as I have no knowledge of them and for me to have an opinion on them would make me look Ignorant.

Remo · 04-19-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

This is an interesting article. I did some googling around on this incident and it seems there are two sides of the story. Seems to me the cop needs better training.

http://gma.yahoo.com/austin-police-c...opstories.html

Thoughts?

It was already answered in your original statement.

Pseudosacred · 04-19-2012, 11:03 AM

I'm going to go ahead and say that this cop should be fired. I mean, first of all, he was at the wrong address. It doesn't take a genius to realize the difference between a man who is breaking the law or a man that is not.

I don't think this is a matter of being a cop or not. From what I understand, you only draw your weapon on someone who poses a threat. A man who has his hands up is NOT a threat in any way.

Also, shooting a dog that's barking and "running toward you" is just ridiculous. That cop must have been a scared little man to be that intimidated by a 50 lb. dog.

Personally, though, I have had an experiance where I was pulled over at gunpoint due to false allegations of a "breaking & entering". I told this kid that cigarettes make him look like an idiot and he got really mad (I guess, he never said anything to me) so he filed a fake police report that I broke in, stole his laptop and drove by holding it out the window. I was driving to go meet my friends and play hockey and like...400ft from the rink, a cop turns his sirens on behind me. I pulled over and the guy gets out and posts up with his gun drawn. I was scared sh**less. He figured out that it was all a lie, but I still pressed charges and got him fired. He had NO reason to pull a gun. A taser? maybe. A gun is just wrong to pull on someone who isn't belligerant.

There's my

04-19-2012, 09:09 AM	#1
smitty81 Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,640 Trading: (10)	911 call that went bad. This is an interesting article. I did some googling around on this incident and it seems there are two sides of the story. Seems to me the cop needs better training. http://gma.yahoo.com/austin-police-c...opstories.html Thoughts?

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Whee formerly illinoishoosier Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Sean Location: Bishopville, SC Posts: 3,591 Trading: (17)	Re: 911 call that went bad. I think if you're not an LEO or have never been an LEO, to presume that he was "gun-ho" or poorly trained is wrong. Respond to a 911 and be prepared for anything. Or end up shot by someone acting like nothing is wrong. __________________ "Maybe I'm wrong, when they tell me they're right…..naaaaahhhhhh, I'm an asshooooooleeee"--Denis Leary

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never_enough Never Satisfied Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Robert Location: MA Posts: 650 Trading: (6)	Re: 911 call that went bad. Sucks all around. And it makes me miss my dog, his name was Cisco.

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icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,305 Trading: (60)	Re: 911 call that went bad. Like people are saying, if you have never been a cop and have no LEO training, your opinion on the cop is pretty meaningless to those of us that have. I agree with Shane, I feel bad for them both. I am sure the officer feels like sh!t. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

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smitty81 Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,640 Trading: (10)	Re: 911 call that went bad. Just for the record, I don't hate cops. In fact, I respect them for what they do. I just felt this could have been avoided and the situation got out of hand.

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Pseudosacred What will your verse be? Join Date: Jan 2012 First Name: Nick Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 423 Trading: (1)	Re: 911 call that went bad. I'm going to go ahead and say that this cop should be fired. I mean, first of all, he was at the wrong address. It doesn't take a genius to realize the difference between a man who is breaking the law or a man that is not. I don't think this is a matter of being a cop or not. From what I understand, you only draw your weapon on someone who poses a threat. A man who has his hands up is NOT a threat in any way. Also, shooting a dog that's barking and "running toward you" is just ridiculous. That cop must have been a scared little man to be that intimidated by a 50 lb. dog. Personally, though, I have had an experiance where I was pulled over at gunpoint due to false allegations of a "breaking & entering". I told this kid that cigarettes make him look like an idiot and he got really mad (I guess, he never said anything to me) so he filed a fake police report that I broke in, stole his laptop and drove by holding it out the window. I was driving to go meet my friends and play hockey and like...400ft from the rink, a cop turns his sirens on behind me. I pulled over and the guy gets out and posts up with his gun drawn. I was scared sh**less. He figured out that it was all a lie, but I still pressed charges and got him fired. He had NO reason to pull a gun. A taser? maybe. A gun is just wrong to pull on someone who isn't belligerant. There's my