tobacco beetles!

10-30-2009, 10:51 AM

I got tobacco beetles in my Humidor!! I immediately put the whole humidor in the freezer for two days, then placed it in the fridge yesterday, should I have kept it in the freezer longer?

Blueface · 10-30-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RIsmoker

I got tobacco beetles in my Humidor!! I immediately put the whole humidor in the freezer for two days, then placed it in the fridge yesterday, should I have kept it in the freezer longer?

Don't freeze your humidor.
Freeze the cigars.
Wipe down your humidor and vacuum it well to make sure any eggs/larvae is gone.
Freezing your humidor may damage the wood.

doctorcue · 10-30-2009, 10:56 AM

Hmmm... you should be wrapping up your cigars in ziploc bags so they don't dry out. The `fridge will do that. I would recommend putting them in bags asap.

Riff Raff · 10-30-2009, 10:57 AM

I agree with everything stated by my fellow BOTL's above. 48 hours at -10 C or colder should do the trick. That sucks that you got infested! I was gifted some CC's that had one beetle hole in it and I immediately froze them. It is a good practice to freeze all of your smokes! There is a really good thread to read if you haven't already. It is:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7919

MrOneEyedBoh · 10-30-2009, 11:33 AM

So you jsut put them in the freeezer for 48 hours and that makes em pretty much beetle free?

edit: I see why people would do it now, those things tear up some cigars.

Sauer Grapes · 10-30-2009, 11:37 AM

I'd give them 72 hours at least. Might not be necessary but if I have a confirmed beetle sighting, I wanna freeze them bastards.

T.G · 10-30-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MrOneEyedBoh

So you jsut put them in the freeezer for 48 hours and that makes em pretty much beetle free?

If your freezer is cold enough, theoretically, yes.

Best to go longer or colder, or both to give yourself a margin of safety. Even then, it's not an absolute, just very highly likely.

Blueface · 10-30-2009, 11:43 AM

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roughrider · 10-30-2009, 02:00 PM

Why don't cigar manufacturers do the freeze procedure at the factories on all their cigars?

T.G · 10-30-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by roughrider

Why don't cigar manufacturers do the freeze procedure at the factories on all their cigars?

Most (but not all) do.

Problem is, even if the manufacturer freezes everything before shipping (and lets assume it's an infallible process, which it's not, but lets just run with that for the moment), that only ensures that the cigars are beetle, larvae and egg free up until that point. All they have to do is be exposed to one mating pair of beetles at any point thereafter in their travels from the factory to the distributor to the vendor to the customer for them to be potentially re-infested.

Some vendors (JR cigars comes immediately to mind) blast freeze all incoming shipments too. But again, once it leaves their warehouse humidor, anything can happen.

SmokinApe · 10-30-2009, 02:15 PM

I think you need to deep freeze, not just freeze...

Starscream · 10-30-2009, 02:35 PM

Don't freeze me, dammit! I've been through enough!

10-30-2009, 02:39 PM

Holy random Blue Beetle reference Batman!

roughrider · 10-31-2009, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G

Most (but not all) do.

Problem is, even if the manufacturer freezes everything before shipping (and lets assume it's an infallible process, which it's not, but lets just run with that for the moment), that only ensures that the cigars are beetle, larvae and egg free up until that point. All they have to do is be exposed to one mating pair of beetles at any point thereafter in their travels from the factory to the distributor to the vendor to the customer for them to be potentially re-infested.

Some vendors (JR cigars comes immediately to mind) blast freeze all incoming shipments too. But again, once it leaves their warehouse humidor, anything can happen.

Makes sense.

10-31-2009, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G

Some vendors (JR cigars comes immediately to mind) blast freeze all incoming shipments too. But again, once it leaves their warehouse humidor, anything can happen.

I'll keep repeating this until the heavens: JR has not once, but twice passed on moldy cigars to me. Beetles I can live with. Sending me cigars with patches of mold is not forgivable.

10-31-2009, 09:11 AM

1) Put cigars in zip lock bag.
2) Put bag of cigars in another zip lock bag.
3) Place in Freezer for 3 days
4) Move to fridge for 1 day to start bringing to temp slowly
5) Leave at room temp for 1 day.
6) Put back in humidor after cleaning and vacuuming it out.

T.G · 10-31-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sodomanaz

I'll keep repeating this until the heavens: JR has not once, but twice passed on moldy cigars to me. Beetles I can live with. Sending me cigars with patches of mold is not forgivable.

Accidentally shipping mold seems happens to all vendors at one time or another. *shrug* Even some of the CC vendors who inspect boxes prior to shipment seem to occasionally screw up too (abet rarely).

I suspect that JR keeps their shipping warehouse at greater than 70RH. Everything I've ever bought from them has come in wet despite the fact it takes a week to get to CA. It's gotten to the point that whenever I get a box of cigars from them now, I just leave them out on the counter for a week or so to dry.

Titan410 · 10-31-2009, 11:15 AM

If you get cigars with beetles in them but they're in cello and you leave them like that in your humi is it possible for them to get out and into your other sticks?

stevieray · 10-31-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Titan410

If you get cigars with beetles in them but they're in cello and you leave them like that in your humi is it possible for them to get out and into your other sticks?

yes

T.G · 10-31-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Titan410

If you get cigars with beetles in them but they're in cello and you leave them like that in your humi is it possible for them to get out and into your other sticks?

Absolutely. Cello won't even slow the little bastards down - they just munch right through it.

10-30-2009, 10:51 AM	#1
RIsmoker Guest Posts: n/a	tobacco beetles! I got tobacco beetles in my Humidor!! I immediately put the whole humidor in the freezer for two days, then placed it in the fridge yesterday, should I have kept it in the freezer longer?

10-30-2009, 10:56 AM	#3
doctorcue BABOTL - VP of Drinking Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Danny Location: Rancho Cordova, CA Posts: 331 Trading: (2)	Re: tobacco beetles! Hmmm... you should be wrapping up your cigars in ziploc bags so they don't dry out. The `fridge will do that. I would recommend putting them in bags asap. __________________ Raiders, A's, Warriors.

10-30-2009, 10:57 AM	#4
Riff Raff Habitual Offender Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: Bill Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 370 Trading: (11)	Re: tobacco beetles! I agree with everything stated by my fellow BOTL's above. 48 hours at -10 C or colder should do the trick. That sucks that you got infested! I was gifted some CC's that had one beetle hole in it and I immediately froze them. It is a good practice to freeze all of your smokes! There is a really good thread to read if you haven't already. It is: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7919

10-30-2009, 11:33 AM	#5
MrOneEyedBoh Hon. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 953 Trading: (30)	Re: tobacco beetles! So you jsut put them in the freeezer for 48 hours and that makes em pretty much beetle free? edit: I see why people would do it now, those things tear up some cigars.

10-30-2009, 11:37 AM	#6
Sauer Grapes Snatchin' yo people up Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,235 Trading: (44)	Re: tobacco beetles! I'd give them 72 hours at least. Might not be necessary but if I have a confirmed beetle sighting, I wanna freeze them bastards.

10-30-2009, 11:43 AM	#8
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10-30-2009, 02:00 PM	#9
roughrider Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 835 Trading: (24)	Re: tobacco beetles! Why don't cigar manufacturers do the freeze procedure at the factories on all their cigars?

10-30-2009, 02:15 PM	#11
SmokinApe Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeremy Posts: 1,267 Trading: (35)	Re: tobacco beetles! I think you need to deep freeze, not just freeze...

10-30-2009, 02:35 PM	#12
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10-30-2009, 02:39 PM	#13
yitlin Guest Posts: n/a	Re: tobacco beetles! Holy random Blue Beetle reference Batman!

10-31-2009, 09:11 AM	#16
The EVP Guest Posts: n/a	Re: tobacco beetles! 1) Put cigars in zip lock bag. 2) Put bag of cigars in another zip lock bag. 3) Place in Freezer for 3 days 4) Move to fridge for 1 day to start bringing to temp slowly 5) Leave at room temp for 1 day. 6) Put back in humidor after cleaning and vacuuming it out.

10-31-2009, 11:15 AM	#18
Titan410 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Vince Location: Georgetown, TX Posts: 353 Trading: (26)	Re: tobacco beetles! If you get cigars with beetles in them but they're in cello and you leave them like that in your humi is it possible for them to get out and into your other sticks? __________________ I spend most of my money on guns, ammo, and cigars. The rest I waste.