Aged LP9?

ApexAZ · 03-09-2012, 09:14 AM

I realize aging is a completely subjective topic, but I was hoping to get some opinions from those who have aged any Liga Privada No. 9, and if so, was it worth it?

The reason I am asking is I'm looking for a box that would be good for a wedding gift from my fiance that I could smoke on our anniversaries.

Would the LP9 be a good selection for this?

Brooks W · 03-09-2012, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ApexAZ

I realize aging is a completely subjective topic, but I was hoping to get some opinions from those who have aged any Liga Privada No. 9, and if so, was it worth it?

The reason I am asking is I'm looking for a box that would be good for a wedding gift from my fiance that I could smoke on our anniversaries.

Would the LP9 be a good selection for this?

I think this will answer all your questions.

http://www.halfwheel.com/?p=22812

Honestly, the best NC aged stick I have had for a while are some OR VSGs...I bought a box of the VSG CGs to put down based on the ones I smoked...So, my choice would be VSG or Opus...

Hope that helps!

~brooks

maninblack · 03-09-2012, 10:30 AM

I have a problem aging any LP because I can't wait to smoke them now! Too tasty to just sit in my humi.

shilala · 03-09-2012, 10:39 AM

I had guessed that these wouldn't stand up to aging before I read the review. Most multiple-country blends don't, in my experience.
With the exception of very few high-end cigars, and most Oliva products, my personal impression is that a high percentage of nc's age poorly.
I suppose "poorly" is subjective. I want a cigar to hold it's strength and nuance over time, but simply lose it's wet, ammonia, barnyard feel.
Even Padron Anni's suffer after more than a few years in my estimation, losing a lot of strength while retaining character. Anejo's seem to stand up real well on all points.

Islayphile · 03-09-2012, 11:18 AM

I agree on the Padrons Scott...

those are meant to be smoked right away, and do suffer from aging IMO

ApexAZ · 03-09-2012, 11:30 AM

I would get a box of Opus, but seems unlikely right now.

ApexAZ · 03-09-2012, 11:57 AM

Sorry, what is OR VSG? I think Ashton VSG.

shilala · 03-09-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Islayphile

I agree on the Padrons Scott...

those are meant to be smoked right away, and do suffer from aging IMO

I do like to give them about 8 months if they're wet. If they're ready to go rott, I'm with you 100%.

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Originally Posted by ApexAZ

I would get a box of Opus, but seems unlikely right now.

A box of Anejos is cheaper, a far better smoke, and will carry you across the years. Maybe you might want to look at a cc option? While I enjoy freshies better in my cc's, they can go from real good to absolutely sublime if you care for them properly.
If I were long-storing a cab for your purpose, I'd lightly seal-a-meal the box each time I got a cigar out just to hold in as much of the goodness as I can. A breath of fresh air every year for 50 years would suit me fine, and I bet that 50th cigar would be phenomenal, were the Good Lord willing to let me live so long.

03-09-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ApexAZ

Sorry, what is OR VSG? I think Ashton VSG.

Yes. Original Ashton VSG.
[quote=shilala;1586456A box of Anejos is cheaper, a far better smoke, and will carry you across the years. Maybe you might want to look at a cc option? While I enjoy freshies better in my cc's, they can go from real good to absolutely sublime if you care for them properly.
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Don Carlos. Pipesandcigars.com seems to have the best price on them that I've seen thus far. The aged DC I've had were phenomenal.

JenksAnejo · 03-09-2012, 12:37 PM

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Anejo's seem to stand up real well on all points.

The longer you can wait the better IMO!

I like the LP9 rott; I think the strength and flavors are damn near unbeatable fresh.

Brooks W · 03-09-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ApexAZ

Sorry, what is OR VSG? I think Ashton VSG.

Sorry.

OR = Original Release (i.e. 1999)

I guess what I was saying is that the VSG blend seems to do very well when aged for significant amount of time (at least the ones I have had from different years)...

~brooks

neoflex · 03-09-2012, 01:07 PM

I find that any Liga improves greatly with age. Perfect example are the Dirty Rats. When they first came out I really like them and than I stumbled upon one in my humidor that had close to two years on it and holy crap did that thing come to life! I have a few T-52 Toros that are roughly two years old too and they are smoking phenomenally right now.

thegoldenmackid · 03-09-2012, 02:02 PM

A lot of this gets to the point of what is "aged."

I've had a few old (4+ year) Ligas and it's just not my cup of tea.

I agree with the above comments that say Dirty Rats with a year or so, but I would use a bit different terminology on that, but it's semantics.

Getting at the root of the question, I think that this year's batch of T-52s is proving to be a collector quality item as far as Ligas go, that being said, I wouldn't hold onto them until 2017 and expect great things.

AlohaStyle · 03-09-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thegoldenmackid

A lot of this gets to the point of what is "aged."

I've had a few old (4+ year) Ligas and it's just not my cup of tea.

I agree with the above comments that say Dirty Rats with a year or so, but I would use a bit different terminology on that, but it's semantics.

Getting at the root of the question, I think that this year's batch of T-52s is proving to be a collector quality item as far as Ligas go, that being said, I wouldn't hold onto them until 2017 and expect great things.

That would be my answer exactly. I think NC's can be great with 2-3 years on them, but the darker/richer ones like Liga's, Tat Reservas etc can lose their luster after 4+. That is one of the reasons why I'm mainly a CC guy now because I don't smoke as often as others and I need a cigar that can age well.

With that said, there are some NC's that can be great after 4 years. Liga's haven't been around long enough to really know, but some of the natural Tatuaje's in the brown line etc can be really good. Fuentes obviously age well etc.

kuzi16 · 03-10-2012, 01:23 PM

i only like the PL no.9s as fresh as i can get em. i feel that after a year or so the coffee notes are brought out and that is not what i usually got for in a cigar.

if you wanna age the LP line i would say the T52s are a bit better to do.

macsauce13 · 03-10-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ApexAZ

I would get a box of Opus, but seems unlikely right now.

Is the Opus stock really low right now? Its been a while since I have looked.

03-10-2012, 02:37 PM

Cigars direct has plenty. I order from them frequently.

ApexAZ · 03-10-2012, 03:21 PM

cigarsdirect dot com?

Ervsuperb · 03-11-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by maninblack

I have a problem aging any LP because I can't wait to smoke them now! Too tasty to just sit in my humi.

This! Although I'm getting better at letting a few boxes rest

03-09-2012, 09:14 AM	#1
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03-09-2012, 10:30 AM	#3
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shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Aged LP9? I had guessed that these wouldn't stand up to aging before I read the review. Most multiple-country blends don't, in my experience. With the exception of very few high-end cigars, and most Oliva products, my personal impression is that a high percentage of nc's age poorly. I suppose "poorly" is subjective. I want a cigar to hold it's strength and nuance over time, but simply lose it's wet, ammonia, barnyard feel. Even Padron Anni's suffer after more than a few years in my estimation, losing a lot of strength while retaining character. Anejo's seem to stand up real well on all points. __________________

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03-09-2012, 11:30 AM	#6
ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Re: Aged LP9? I would get a box of Opus, but seems unlikely right now.

03-09-2012, 11:57 AM	#7
ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Re: Aged LP9? Sorry, what is OR VSG? I think Ashton VSG.

03-09-2012, 01:07 PM	#12
neoflex I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: John Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 2,765 Trading: (32)	Re: Aged LP9? I find that any Liga improves greatly with age. Perfect example are the Dirty Rats. When they first came out I really like them and than I stumbled upon one in my humidor that had close to two years on it and holy crap did that thing come to life! I have a few T-52 Toros that are roughly two years old too and they are smoking phenomenally right now. __________________

03-09-2012, 02:02 PM	#13
thegoldenmackid Just in from the Storm Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 19 Trading: (0)	Re: Aged LP9? A lot of this gets to the point of what is "aged." I've had a few old (4+ year) Ligas and it's just not my cup of tea. I agree with the above comments that say Dirty Rats with a year or so, but I would use a bit different terminology on that, but it's semantics. Getting at the root of the question, I think that this year's batch of T-52s is proving to be a collector quality item as far as Ligas go, that being said, I wouldn't hold onto them until 2017 and expect great things. __________________ halfwheel

03-10-2012, 01:23 PM	#15
kuzi16 the one and only Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 128 Trading: (1)	Re: Aged LP9? i only like the PL no.9s as fresh as i can get em. i feel that after a year or so the coffee notes are brought out and that is not what i usually got for in a cigar. if you wanna age the LP line i would say the T52s are a bit better to do. __________________ Kuzi's Cigar Catalog

03-10-2012, 02:37 PM	#17
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ApexAZ Wandering aimlessly Join Date: Oct 2011 First Name: Brian Location: Sonoran Desert Posts: 1,299 Trading: (10)	Re: Aged LP9? cigarsdirect dot com?