Underwhelmed.....

BigAsh · 01-23-2010, 11:12 AM

Went out last nite to a local spot....brought a Tat Black Tubo to smoke....some burn issues, had to touch up 3 times....and the flavor was just so-so.....harsh to start....stored at 65 while resting in my humi for about a month.....drinking Johnny Black rocks which is a regular with a smoke so that didn't affect it....Maybe my expectations were too high....maybe just an "off" smoke from the box....I'll definately revisit this stick in the future but can't say I thoroughly enjoyed this one....also the burn issues were uncharacteristic for a Tat which I've always found to be well constructed....just my

md4958 · 01-23-2010, 11:28 AM

Im wondering if these burn issues people are experiencing with these tubos have anything to do with them being tubed?

As a cigar will age more slowly in a tube, I assume its also safe to say it will dry out more slowly also. Maybe these need more time to "dry out"??

troutbreath · 01-23-2010, 11:40 AM

That's a shame. I have (thank goodness) not been in a B&M while these tubos have been released, so I don't have an experience with them to compare. I agree, however, that Tat's are usually very well constructed. I rarely have burn issues and they taste great (which is why they are a favorite).

longknocker · 01-23-2010, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by md4958

Im wondering if these burn issues people are experiencing with these tubos have anything to do with them being tubed?

As a cigar will age more slowly in a tube, I assume its also safe to say it will dry out more slowly also. Maybe these need more time to "dry out"??

I Had The Same Tubo The Other Day & It Was Perfect, Moe! May Have Just Been A Bad Stick?

JJG · 01-23-2010, 11:44 AM

I've always thought Tatuaje is hit or miss. I can't write them off completely though, because the ones I have liked were really excellent (Riqueza, Cojonu '09), and I make a point to keep these in the humi at all times. Overall as a brand though, a little undeserving of the hype they receive.

One thing I've never experienced with Tats is burn issues. I can say that despite any flavor shortcomings, every one I've smoked has been flawlessly constructed. sorry to hear the tubo gave you problems.

01-23-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by md4958

Im wondering if these burn issues people are experiencing with these tubos have anything to do with them being tubed?

As a cigar will age more slowly in a tube, I assume its also safe to say it will dry out more slowly also. Maybe these need more time to "dry out"??

Actually in a god tube the cigar shouldn't dry out much at all.

troutbreath · 01-23-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Addiction

Actually in a god tube the cigar shouldn't dry out much at all.

I think that is what he was saying. Perhaps they are staying too "wet" in the tubes. They look good in the tubes, I know that.

md4958 · 01-23-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Addiction

Actually in a god tube the cigar shouldn't dry out much at all.

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Originally Posted by troutbreath

I think that is what he was saying. Perhaps they are staying too "wet" in the tubes. They look good in the tubes, I know that.

What Mike said.

While they wont dry out, they will come to an equilibrium with their ambient RH. They might have just shipped wet, and they are still too wet to smoke properly.

Every Tat I have had has been flawlessly constructed, I dont think Pete would change his expectations.

Smokin Gator · 01-23-2010, 12:54 PM

Sorry to hear it wasn't great brother. I have not cracked mine yet.

NCRadioMan · 01-23-2010, 01:27 PM

I don't care for the Black's too much but I have found they taste and smoke better when left out of the tube and dryboxed for a week or so.

BigAsh · 01-23-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

I don't care for the Black's too much but I have found they taste and smoke better when left out of the tube and dryboxed for a week or so.

Gonna try that for the next one.....can't hurt!

Patrick B · 01-23-2010, 01:38 PM

Same situation with me on my first black tubo about 2 weeks after receiving them. The one I had a week ago was almost flawless. I think some are just a tad wet.

okieRob · 01-23-2010, 08:25 PM

I have not been fortunate enough to try a black yet. I'll catch them in my local B&M one day...

I've had the same experience with a few cigars that there was a "buz" about. The first one I tried failed to live up to the hype (perhaps the hype was over done in my head). However, a few of them have become real favorites after giving them a second or third chance.

Ratters · 01-23-2010, 11:14 PM

I've only had one Tat Black before, didn't really care for it. Almost bought the tubo Thursday night, but went with the Red instead, I always enjoy those.

South Shield · 01-24-2010, 12:04 AM

I like the Black a lot, but it has no flavor characteristics of any Tat line. So I can see where people can have an issue with it.

That said I still prefer the Red over the Black

01-24-2010, 08:05 AM

People get let down when they have expectations going into a smoke they've never had before. I never liked the OR Blacks from the jars or bundles, but remained open minded about the Tubo's when they were released. I liked them immediately...because of the spiciness and ending of the cigar. All of mine have been removed from the tubes for storage, and Tatuaje made good on the two sticks that I had problems with.

massphatness · 01-24-2010, 09:05 AM

Was talking to a cigar vendor at the Boston Wine Expo ystdy. I was surprised to learn the tubo is a wholly different blend than the original Black. Can anyone confirm this?
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gnukfu · 01-24-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by massphatness

Was talking to a cigar vendor at the Boston Wine Expo ystdy. I was surprised to learn the tubo is a wholly different blend than the original Black. Can anyone confirm this?
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It seems different to me Vin. Would be interesting to smoke the original and tubo side by side. I also had "remaining lit" issues with the one Black I have smoked (figured they must be a little "wet" in the tube) and no issues with the one Red I have smoked.

On another subject, I prefer the Red Tubo over the Black...so far....in time I will try them again to see if my opinion has changed.

longknocker · 01-24-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by klipsch

People get let down when they have expectations going into a smoke they've never had before. I never liked the OR Blacks from the jars or bundles, but remained open minded about the Tubo's when they were released. I liked them immediately...because of the spiciness and ending of the cigar. All of mine have been removed from the tubes for storage, and Tatuaje made good on the two sticks that I had problems with.

Glad To Hear The Good News, Walt! Love Me Some Tats!

marge796 · 01-24-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by md4958

Im wondering if these burn issues people are experiencing with these tubos have anything to do with them being tubed?

As a cigar will age more slowly in a tube, I assume its also safe to say it will dry out more slowly also. Maybe these need more time to "dry out"??

I take off the end cap of the tube to try to avoid these issues while the cigars age. This seems to work well for me.

Chris.....

01-23-2010, 11:12 AM	#1
BigAsh Don't knock the Ash... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Keith Location: Yardley, PA Posts: 5,046 Trading: (46)	Underwhelmed..... Went out last nite to a local spot....brought a Tat Black Tubo to smoke....some burn issues, had to touch up 3 times....and the flavor was just so-so.....harsh to start....stored at 65 while resting in my humi for about a month.....drinking Johnny Black rocks which is a regular with a smoke so that didn't affect it....Maybe my expectations were too high....maybe just an "off" smoke from the box....I'll definately revisit this stick in the future but can't say I thoroughly enjoyed this one....also the burn issues were uncharacteristic for a Tat which I've always found to be well constructed....just my __________________ Keith

01-23-2010, 11:28 AM	#2
md4958 Captain Cannoli Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moe Location: Suffield, CT Posts: 5,712 Trading: (62)	Re: Underwhelmed..... Im wondering if these burn issues people are experiencing with these tubos have anything to do with them being tubed? As a cigar will age more slowly in a tube, I assume its also safe to say it will dry out more slowly also. Maybe these need more time to "dry out"?? __________________ "One fart can foul the air for everyone" - Esteemed philosopher "If avoiding the nasty $hit is being a snob, them I am guilty as charged."- Same esteemed philosopher.

01-23-2010, 11:40 AM	#3
troutbreath Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: The Dash, NC Posts: 706 Trading: (0)	Re: Underwhelmed..... That's a shame. I have (thank goodness) not been in a B&M while these tubos have been released, so I don't have an experience with them to compare. I agree, however, that Tat's are usually very well constructed. I rarely have burn issues and they taste great (which is why they are a favorite).

01-23-2010, 11:44 AM	#5
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: Underwhelmed..... I've always thought Tatuaje is hit or miss. I can't write them off completely though, because the ones I have liked were really excellent (Riqueza, Cojonu '09), and I make a point to keep these in the humi at all times. Overall as a brand though, a little undeserving of the hype they receive. One thing I've never experienced with Tats is burn issues. I can say that despite any flavor shortcomings, every one I've smoked has been flawlessly constructed. sorry to hear the tubo gave you problems.

01-23-2010, 12:54 PM	#9
Smokin Gator Just plain insane! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Swamp Posts: 6,237 Trading: (106)	Re: Underwhelmed..... Sorry to hear it wasn't great brother. I have not cracked mine yet. __________________ Check out the Cigar Asylum Newbie Sampler Trade

01-23-2010, 01:27 PM	#10
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,277 Trading: (66)	Re: Underwhelmed..... I don't care for the Black's too much but I have found they taste and smoke better when left out of the tube and dryboxed for a week or so. __________________ The path to loyalty is trust.

01-23-2010, 01:38 PM	#12
Patrick B Feeling at Home Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincinnati OH Posts: 713 Trading: (6)	Re: Underwhelmed..... Same situation with me on my first black tubo about 2 weeks after receiving them. The one I had a week ago was almost flawless. I think some are just a tad wet.

01-23-2010, 08:25 PM	#13
okieRob Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: I'm not telling Location: The Land in the Middle Posts: 153 Trading: (6)	Re: Underwhelmed..... I have not been fortunate enough to try a black yet. I'll catch them in my local B&M one day... I've had the same experience with a few cigars that there was a "buz" about. The first one I tried failed to live up to the hype (perhaps the hype was over done in my head). However, a few of them have become real favorites after giving them a second or third chance.

01-23-2010, 11:14 PM	#14
Ratters Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,848 Trading: (2)	Re: Underwhelmed..... I've only had one Tat Black before, didn't really care for it. Almost bought the tubo Thursday night, but went with the Red instead, I always enjoy those.

01-24-2010, 12:04 AM	#15
South Shield Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Travis Location: Martinez, CA Posts: 272 Trading: (0)	Re: Underwhelmed..... I like the Black a lot, but it has no flavor characteristics of any Tat line. So I can see where people can have an issue with it. That said I still prefer the Red over the Black

01-24-2010, 08:05 AM	#16
klipsch Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Underwhelmed..... People get let down when they have expectations going into a smoke they've never had before. I never liked the OR Blacks from the jars or bundles, but remained open minded about the Tubo's when they were released. I liked them immediately...because of the spiciness and ending of the cigar. All of mine have been removed from the tubes for storage, and Tatuaje made good on the two sticks that I had problems with.

01-24-2010, 09:05 AM	#17
massphatness Where's my buffaloooo ... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Vin Location: MassHolia Posts: 12,690 Trading: (206)	Re: Underwhelmed..... Was talking to a cigar vendor at the Boston Wine Expo ystdy. I was surprised to learn the tubo is a wholly different blend than the original Black. Can anyone confirm this? Posted via Mobile Device