Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X

E.J. · 09-25-2009, 09:54 PM

Oh No!!! That Opus X was a MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT. Took them over to the neighbors to have them..... One for him, one for me... He was the guy that got me started on this. I was like a kid at Christmas waiting to go light up with him, so him todays take.....

Long story short....his was great and I couldn't keep mine lit.... It was a dud..... He kept trying to just give me the one I gave him. When declined, he tried to work it for me to get it "going" and it was for not.... I felt CHEATED. Waited all day to be blown away and was left wanting....

He did give me a humidor to use, so all was not lost.... But I am bummed.....

Going back tomorrow to get humidor gear.... Is it poor taste to tell the shop that I was sold a bad stick.... Or are those the breaks?

bobarian · 09-25-2009, 10:15 PM

Fresh OpusX's are not the greatest smoke. If you are looking for a fancy stick to smoke fresh I would go with a Padron Anniversary. But after a year or more Opus' really pick up.

09-25-2009, 10:17 PM

I'm with Bob.

As far as going to the B&M and telling them you got sold a bad stick -- it can be a tricky situation. Did you just buy them tonight and take them straight over to your friends pad or did you buy them and store them a while?

If you just bought them and they did not stay lit, by all means let your retailer know. If you stored them a while, it may have been your humidor and not really fair to blame the retailer.

This is just my

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SmokeyJoe · 09-25-2009, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian

Fresh OpusX's are not the greatest smoke. If you are looking for a fancy stick to smoke fresh I would go with a Padron Anniversary. But after a year or more Opus' really pick up.

Bob is good... Bob is wise.

Give the Opus a year or two... I love 'em.

You can always mention to the shop owner that one of them was bad... while you are buying other smokes. I have been very fortunate in dealing with B&M owners that want to keep a customer coming back. He might offer to make it good... or throw in something extra. He doesn't have to, but many times they will if you approach it right.

sikk50 · 09-25-2009, 10:23 PM

I had a problem with a power ranger one night while my friend had no troubles with the robusto that same night. Fresh Opus are hit or miss at best.

09-25-2009, 10:40 PM

I had a Scorpio a week ago and I was blown away by it! SO SMOOTH and not a bit harsh at all. It obviously came aged though. Received some fresher different sized ones yesterday packed with a humi pouch and pulled out the #4 for a quick smoke. It clogged up on me after the first third and I had to relight it. I was disappointed until the last third and then voila! It turned into a piece of heaven thank God! After that I didn't put it down until I had like a half inch left. The experience left me thinking that I'll let the others age for at least a few months before giving them a try though. I think if you want a good one right away you might want to look out for a Journey to Chateu la de dah aged collection and smoke those. Overall they beat the store prices that way on singles and they're aged a few years already. Good luck!

GreekGodX · 09-25-2009, 11:07 PM

I had one with about 5 years of age on it and it was a great smoke. Did it wow me beyond belief? No. Would I smoke one again? Yes, but I'm not going out of my way to buy any. Especially when a local B&M who just got them yesterday are selling at above $30 a stick. The ones I've bought were half that price. Great construction and draw but for me comes up a little short on flavor.

JJG · 09-25-2009, 11:11 PM

man I'm sorry to hear that. For how much these cost, you expect (and deserve) perfection. Unfortunately cigars are still a handmade product and there's no way to guarantee 100% consistency. However, that isn't really anything the shop has control over.

There's nothing wrong with giving them your opinion on a cigar purchase, but I wouldn't do so with the expectation of a replacement or refund.

E.J. · 09-26-2009, 12:28 AM

I will go in tomorrow and buy two more to give it a second try... Just wanted to know if mentioning my experience would be in poor taste....

I am not waiting 2 years.... I have been smoking good cigars for 2 weeks.....I buy and smoke..... Though I did just get a humidor.....

E.J. · 09-26-2009, 12:37 AM

Oh....and to be clear, yes, bought this morning and smoked this evening. I was not aware that it was not a smoke I was to wait a year or more on....

Maybe this was my issue.....

I am VERY NEW to the cigar enjoyment.... So I am VERY much learning as I go....

E.J. · 09-26-2009, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian

Fresh OpusX's are not the greatest smoke. If you are looking for a fancy stick to smoke fresh I would go with a Padron Anniversary. But after a year or more Opus' really pick up.

I have been doing that(4 last Saturday).... Wanted to go outside the norm.... The Padron's have been AMAZING.....but trying to expand....

kelmac07 · 09-26-2009, 12:45 AM

Sorry your first Opus X wasn't all that you expected!!

duckmanco · 09-26-2009, 03:28 AM

I don't think they are any better than most other full bodied cigars that taste of spicy cinnamon leather..... Litto's puros are IMO a WAAAY better example of the dom. puro. Manufactured rarities that complete with all the hype and fanboys you could ever want.....of course YMMV

kenstogie · 09-26-2009, 04:36 AM

I"d suspect you need to give them more "rest". IMO its a smoke that really does age and develop. To me a year is still to young. For these.

timo · 09-26-2009, 06:17 AM

It just bugs the heck out of me that these companies can sell you a product for good money and when the product malfunctions tell you oh well that's how cigars are. I say Bullshiite! We're not talking a two dollar item here. These things have a reputation for being one of the best. Good Cigars are not cheap anymore and these companies should assure the quality of their products and when you do get a dud they should replace it. As far as aging goes if they know the cigar is going to be inconsistent when fresh then they should age it before they sell it. Why the heck should i have to buy something and then let it sit a year before I use it? I can't think of any other product or industry that operates like this. Well that's my rant for the day.

Thanks for listening

09-26-2009, 07:19 AM

Well, what I'm surprised hasn't been brought up yet is that the general rule of thumb is to let the cigar rest after purchase. A lot of stores keep their humidors a bit moister than what you would keep at home.

If it is being a pain to keep lit, it's probably a bit wet, and needed to be dry-boxed for a day or two.

I know it goes against your current ways, but once you get into this a bit (humidor(s), dry-boxing), you will notice a difference between a fresh from the store cigar and one that has been given some time to be ready to smoke.

09-26-2009, 07:21 AM

dont fret young grass hopper, just try again!

RevSmoke · 09-26-2009, 07:41 AM

Considering that one of the mottos for the Fuente line is, "we never rush the hands of time," one wonders why a wait of a year is necessary. I have had the similar construction experiences - an even burn has been a rarity for me. I so badly want to like these, but when I get one and I get burned, it leaves me waiting for a long time to get another.

This left me very hesitant to try the Anejo line. Here my experience is just the opposite. Wish I could afford more of those, I have never (through about 10 of them) had a bad one.

timo · 09-26-2009, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sodomanaz

Well, what I'm surprised hasn't been brought up yet is that the general rule of thumb is to let the cigar rest after purchase. A lot of stores keep their humidors a bit moister than what you would keep at home.

If it is being a pain to keep lit, it's probably a bit wet, and needed to be dry-boxed for a day or two.

I know it goes against your current ways, but once you get into this a bit (humidor(s), dry-boxing), you will notice a difference between a fresh from the store cigar and one that has been given some time to be ready to smoke.

He bought two cigars and had problems with one so I doubt it was stores humidor

09-26-2009, 07:56 AM

I've smoked a couple of Opus, one was fresh the other 2 were gifted with some time. They all burned great and were decent smokes, but to be honest the flavor didn't do much for me. I'll take an Anejo over an Opus every time.

There are a few hyped cigars that I have tried and wasn't very impressed with, Opus just being one of them.

09-25-2009, 09:54 PM	#1
E.J. I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,218 Trading: (21)	Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X Oh No!!! That Opus X was a MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT. Took them over to the neighbors to have them..... One for him, one for me... He was the guy that got me started on this. I was like a kid at Christmas waiting to go light up with him, so him todays take..... Long story short....his was great and I couldn't keep mine lit.... It was a dud..... He kept trying to just give me the one I gave him. When declined, he tried to work it for me to get it "going" and it was for not.... I felt CHEATED. Waited all day to be blown away and was left wanting.... He did give me a humidor to use, so all was not lost.... But I am bummed..... Going back tomorrow to get humidor gear.... Is it poor taste to tell the shop that I was sold a bad stick.... Or are those the breaks?

09-25-2009, 10:15 PM	#2
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X Fresh OpusX's are not the greatest smoke. If you are looking for a fancy stick to smoke fresh I would go with a Padron Anniversary. But after a year or more Opus' really pick up.

09-25-2009, 10:17 PM	#3
Darrell Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X I'm with Bob. As far as going to the B&M and telling them you got sold a bad stick -- it can be a tricky situation. Did you just buy them tonight and take them straight over to your friends pad or did you buy them and store them a while? If you just bought them and they did not stay lit, by all means let your retailer know. If you stored them a while, it may have been your humidor and not really fair to blame the retailer. This is just my .

09-25-2009, 10:23 PM	#5
sikk50 Just Bored Really... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Jefferson State Posts: 2,084 Trading: (13)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X I had a problem with a power ranger one night while my friend had no troubles with the robusto that same night. Fresh Opus are hit or miss at best. __________________ "Not a Headache in a Hogshead"

09-25-2009, 10:40 PM	#6
mariogolbee Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X I had a Scorpio a week ago and I was blown away by it! SO SMOOTH and not a bit harsh at all. It obviously came aged though. Received some fresher different sized ones yesterday packed with a humi pouch and pulled out the #4 for a quick smoke. It clogged up on me after the first third and I had to relight it. I was disappointed until the last third and then voila! It turned into a piece of heaven thank God! After that I didn't put it down until I had like a half inch left. The experience left me thinking that I'll let the others age for at least a few months before giving them a try though. I think if you want a good one right away you might want to look out for a Journey to Chateu la de dah aged collection and smoke those. Overall they beat the store prices that way on singles and they're aged a few years already. Good luck!

09-25-2009, 11:07 PM	#7
GreekGodX Opa!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Christos Location: 7 Line Posts: 4,893 Trading: (82)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X I had one with about 5 years of age on it and it was a great smoke. Did it wow me beyond belief? No. Would I smoke one again? Yes, but I'm not going out of my way to buy any. Especially when a local B&M who just got them yesterday are selling at above $30 a stick. The ones I've bought were half that price. Great construction and draw but for me comes up a little short on flavor. __________________ "If I give a businessman 10,000 francs, what is that to him, he is rich. But if I give him a Cohiba cigar, that is style."-Hotel Rwanda

09-25-2009, 11:11 PM	#8
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X man I'm sorry to hear that. For how much these cost, you expect (and deserve) perfection. Unfortunately cigars are still a handmade product and there's no way to guarantee 100% consistency. However, that isn't really anything the shop has control over. There's nothing wrong with giving them your opinion on a cigar purchase, but I wouldn't do so with the expectation of a replacement or refund.

09-26-2009, 12:28 AM	#9
E.J. I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,218 Trading: (21)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X I will go in tomorrow and buy two more to give it a second try... Just wanted to know if mentioning my experience would be in poor taste.... I am not waiting 2 years.... I have been smoking good cigars for 2 weeks.....I buy and smoke..... Though I did just get a humidor.....

09-26-2009, 12:37 AM	#10
E.J. I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,218 Trading: (21)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X Oh....and to be clear, yes, bought this morning and smoked this evening. I was not aware that it was not a smoke I was to wait a year or more on.... Maybe this was my issue..... I am VERY NEW to the cigar enjoyment.... So I am VERY much learning as I go....

09-26-2009, 12:45 AM	#12
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X Sorry your first Opus X wasn't all that you expected!! __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

09-26-2009, 03:28 AM	#13
duckmanco Can't stop whats coming Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: that forsaken stretch of wood they call Whiskey Grove Posts: 404 Trading: (10)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X I don't think they are any better than most other full bodied cigars that taste of spicy cinnamon leather..... Litto's puros are IMO a WAAAY better example of the dom. puro. Manufactured rarities that complete with all the hype and fanboys you could ever want.....of course YMMV __________________ "...Ain't no dark till somethin' shines..."

09-26-2009, 04:36 AM	#14
kenstogie following the whiterabbit Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 1,325 Trading: (3)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X I"d suspect you need to give them more "rest". IMO its a smoke that really does age and develop. To me a year is still to young. For these. __________________ I intend to live forever. So far, so good.

09-26-2009, 06:17 AM	#15
timo Feeling at Home Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MA Posts: 723 Trading: (0)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X It just bugs the heck out of me that these companies can sell you a product for good money and when the product malfunctions tell you oh well that's how cigars are. I say Bullshiite! We're not talking a two dollar item here. These things have a reputation for being one of the best. Good Cigars are not cheap anymore and these companies should assure the quality of their products and when you do get a dud they should replace it. As far as aging goes if they know the cigar is going to be inconsistent when fresh then they should age it before they sell it. Why the heck should i have to buy something and then let it sit a year before I use it? I can't think of any other product or industry that operates like this. Well that's my rant for the day. Thanks for listening __________________ Smoking is one of the leading causes of statistics

09-26-2009, 07:19 AM	#16
sodomanaz Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X Well, what I'm surprised hasn't been brought up yet is that the general rule of thumb is to let the cigar rest after purchase. A lot of stores keep their humidors a bit moister than what you would keep at home. If it is being a pain to keep lit, it's probably a bit wet, and needed to be dry-boxed for a day or two. I know it goes against your current ways, but once you get into this a bit (humidor(s), dry-boxing), you will notice a difference between a fresh from the store cigar and one that has been given some time to be ready to smoke.

09-26-2009, 07:21 AM	#17
Red Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X dont fret young grass hopper, just try again!

09-26-2009, 07:41 AM	#18
RevSmoke Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Todd Location: Northcentral woods of Wisconsin Posts: 6,849 Trading: (51)	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X Considering that one of the mottos for the Fuente line is, "we never rush the hands of time," one wonders why a wait of a year is necessary. I have had the similar construction experiences - an even burn has been a rarity for me. I so badly want to like these, but when I get one and I get burned, it leaves me waiting for a long time to get another. This left me very hesitant to try the Anejo line. Here my experience is just the opposite. Wish I could afford more of those, I have never (through about 10 of them) had a bad one. __________________ Todd__ "Smoke what you like, and enjoy it!"

09-26-2009, 07:56 AM	#20
coastietech Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Major Disappointment w/ my first Opus X I've smoked a couple of Opus, one was fresh the other 2 were gifted with some time. They all burned great and were decent smokes, but to be honest the flavor didn't do much for me. I'll take an Anejo over an Opus every time. There are a few hyped cigars that I have tried and wasn't very impressed with, Opus just being one of them.