NHL '11 - '12 Thread

[E.J.]

Originally Posted by icehog3

And what were the refs smoking giving Brown a "diving" call on that chop in the back of the leg by Smith? I have been there, that chit hurts. Smith should get a game, but I am sure he will not.

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As well as Smith's dive late, when I thought they may send someone in late to run him...... I don't think he'll get a game, but just saying......

[Eleven]

Smith's whack on Brown was bad, I didn't realize that Brown got a diving call on it. Smith's dive was weak and obvious, and I can't believe they let him get away with it!

I do hope they don't give Doan any extra discipline after his hit, that was bad timing and I don't think it should have been major or game to begin with. Hanzal on the other hand...yea that was bad.

[yourchoice]

Philly West is looking really good!

Originally Posted by Eleven

Smith's whack on Brown was bad, I didn't realize that Brown got a diving call on it. Smith's dive was weak and obvious, and I can't believe they let him get away with it!

I do hope they don't give Doan any extra discipline after his hit, that was bad timing and I don't think it should have been major or game to begin with. Hanzal on the other hand...yea that was bad.

Couldn't agree more on all points...to call diving on Brown was rediculous!

[dvickery]

brown got the "diving" call because it was already a 2 man advantage...had it taken place when 5 on 5...smith would have gotten the only penalty.

ron hextall...made a living doing this.

as usuall...the refereeing in hockey remains the weak link of a beautiful game. f***king linesman think they are the stars of the show at every faceoff.

derrek

[Eleven]

Originally Posted by dvickery

as usuall...the refereeing in hockey remains the weak link of a beautiful game. f***king linesman think they are the stars of the show at every faceoff.

derrek

I think it gets worse the farther down the hockey chain it goes. I've seen Refs toss 12 year old kids out of faceoffs, and spend what seems like minutes getting them all lined up perfectly. At least at the level my kid plays at, there is *some* merit to it, but one Ref in particular is a total buzzkill on the ice with his insistence on perfection at the faceoff.

My biggest gripe this year at the NHL level was/is the officiating. An occasional mistake is one thing, but this year the Refs have taken over the game and in many cases are influencing outcomes.

Not that this really happened yesterday, but the "There was already a man advantage" argument should have ZERO bearing on calling another penalty.

[dvickery]

Originally Posted by Eleven

I think it gets worse the farther down the hockey chain it goes. I've seen Refs toss 12 year old kids out of faceoffs, and spend what seems like minutes getting them all lined up perfectly. At least at the level my kid plays at, there is *some* merit to it, but one Ref in particular is a total buzzkill on the ice with his insistence on perfection at the faceoff.

My biggest gripe this year at the NHL level was/is the officiating. An occasional mistake is one thing, but this year the Refs have taken over the game and in many cases are influencing outcomes.

Not that this really happened yesterday, but the "There was already a man advantage" argument should have ZERO bearing on calling another penalty.

i didnt say i agreed with the call(i didnt)...just saying why the "dive" was called...and yes the current manpower situation should have nothing to do with a fair unbiased referee's call...but it did and it does(influence the refs)...as i said before...the weak link in a beautiful game.

to call a good game...refs should be invisible.

derrek

[Bigwaved]

Originally Posted by dvickery

brown got the "diving" call because it was already a 2 man advantage...had it taken place when 5 on 5...smith would have gotten the only penalty.

ron hextall...made a living doing this.

as usuall...the refereeing in hockey remains the weak link of a beautiful game. f***king linesman think they are the stars of the show at every faceoff.

derrek

yup

[Bigwaved]

good game, sucky result

[icehog3]

Wouldn't be shocked if this one goes 7....would be shocked if the Rangers don't make it to the dance.

[Bigwaved]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Wouldn't be shocked if this one goes 7....would be shocked if the Rangers don't make it to the dance.

The Devils have had their way mucking it up at the Rangers' end for too many extended stretches. That needs to be handled better by my guys or it will bite them too many times.

[Ahbroody]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcNw...e_gdata_player

Lol. Why do they even have him come to the post game conferences?

Him combined with Sutter ought to make for the worst combined post game interviews in nhl finals history.

Difference being Sutter is just a bad interview. Atleast he makes an effort though.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=177591

Torts is just a confrontational **** who seems to treat all members of the media with disdain.

[E.J.]

Kings go up 3-0...

[Sawyer]

Anyone ever gone to the finals only playing 13 games? (in the current format of course)

Kings are looking unbeatable. Still wishes the lightning hadn't let Smith go though.

[drjammer]

Originally Posted by Sawyer

Anyone ever gone to the finals only playing 13 games? (in the current format of course)

Kings are looking unbeatable. Still wishes the lightning hadn't let Smith go though.

[Ahbroody]

Not sure if anyone has gone playing only 13.
I know as Tom mentioned no team has ever beat the #1,2,&3 seeds. I agree Kings look unstoppable. They have all the elements. Seems they will take who ever comes out of the east. That would be an epic run.

[gpugliese]

Originally Posted by Sawyer

Anyone ever gone to the finals only playing 13 games? (in the current format of course)

Kings are looking unbeatable. Still wishes the lightning hadn't let Smith go though.

Found this elsewhere, not quite 13 games played stats but close.

The Oilers in 1983*, the Red Wings in 1995, and the Penguins in 2008 All started the playoffs 11-1, including 3-0 leads in each series.

All lost in the Finals. Oilers and Wings were swept. Oilers were swept by Islanders, Wings were swept by the Devils.

*This opening round was a best-of-five and they won it 3-0.

[dvickery]

since it started taking 16 wins to win the stanley cup...1988 edmonton oilers-16 and 2.
is the best record i can think of.

however many games to get to the 2nd or 3rd or 4th rounds counts for nothing(in my opinion)...just ask last years canucks.

i watched every game in '88 that the oilers played...it was actually a 4 1/2 game sweep(in the finals) over the bruins.

derrek

[Ahbroody]

Interesting series in the East. Game 3 I thought Devils played well enough to win, but couldn't get a goal. Yesterday different result. More interesting was the Rangers meltdown. This series really could go either way. I'm going to pull for the Devils.

Everyone is of the opinion the Kings finish the Yotes tonight and plAy the waiting game. Think the cup will be coming to California regardless.

[icehog3]

[Ahbroody]

Height of the playoffs. Dead thread. Makes me sad.

Did anyone else think last nights game was poorly called?

Talking heads keep discussing the devils forecheck and how it may be the deciding factor if they win