Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) - Page 71

688sonarmen · 08-13-2011, 08:45 AM

Bodivas will last for several months. Like Bill said a tupperware container may be your best option. As far as freezing goes that is typically something for the really sick folk with very large collections that can't be checked 100% every day or week. (Checking each box/each stick for beetles) but some info from guys much smarter than I on it

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...eezing+science

irratebass · 08-13-2011, 10:15 AM

Thanks Bill & Jake my funds are very limited, but will take note on that, because I am sure down the road I will need something like this.

I did find a water pillow and will use that for these cheapies I just bought.

Whee · 08-13-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by irratebass

Sorry I waited too long and couldn't edit my previous post...got another question:

I am going out and planning on getting 2-3 sticks today, I still don't have my humidor can I just store them in plastic bags until I am ready to smoke? Or do you suggest freezing them? If I do freeze them, how long do I have to wait after taking them out can I smoke them?

Thanks

Plastic bags will work fine for the short term. I've used Tupperware in the past as well. Cheap and works well.

Not sure on the freezing question, but your answer may be in here.
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...light=freezing

irratebass · 08-13-2011, 11:44 AM

Thanks, I figure with the pillow and only for a week I should be ok.

bobarian · 08-13-2011, 11:53 AM

Ziplock bags are fine for temporary storage. Just ask MoTheMan.

irratebass · 08-25-2011, 08:38 AM

Stupid question maybe, but look up at Illinoishoosier's info.....what are those circles at the bottom? I have one....is this in regards to trades, and I have seen some people have two cigar bands at the bottom, I only have one....or is this something that will be opened to me later after I have been here longer?

pnoon · 08-25-2011, 08:56 AM

Circles are added as levels of "reputation" are reached. The circles or measure of rep means squat. People give rep for a variety of valid or inane reasons. The rep system is just a vehicle to send a personal/private note to another member. Some members, like me, have disabled the display of the rings.

The two bands you speak of can be set from you user control panel. One is for your favorite Cuba marca. The other is for actve/retired miltary folks.
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icehog3 · 08-25-2011, 08:57 AM

It is "reputation" given by other members. I have mine disabled.

Click on the "scales" icon to give it.

irratebass · 08-25-2011, 09:37 AM

Peter....D'oh I knew it was for the military, thanks as well Tom

Whee · 08-25-2011, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irratebass

Stupid question maybe, but look up at Illinoishoosier's info.....what are those circles at the bottom? I have one....is this in regards to trades, and I have seen some people have two cigar bands at the bottom, I only have one....or is this something that will be opened to me later after I have been here longer?

They're donuts for when I get hungry later.

irratebass · 08-25-2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by illinoishoosier

They're donuts for when I get hungry later.

Tallman · 08-26-2011, 10:18 PM

Wrappers splitting...
Hello all, noob question-is "too dry" or "too humid" more likely to cause split wrappers? Or is it not that simple?
I just pulled an Oliva connecticut shade stick out of the humidor, and it was split near the foot And the wrapper was coming "unwrapped" up near the cap. I then pulled an Ashton Cabinet belicoso out and the wrapper was coming unwound up near the cap...that one brought a tear to my eye so I smoked it. My digital has been showing a steady 68-70 rh forever...humi is a Vigilant 1500 (yeah, sure) stick end-table style cabinet. Any thoughts appreciated.
Murray

chippewastud79 · 08-26-2011, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tallman

Wrappers splitting...
Hello all, noob question-is "too dry" or "too humid" more likely to cause split wrappers? Or is it not that simple?
I just pulled an Oliva connecticut shade stick out of the humidor, and it was split near the foot And the wrapper was coming "unwrapped" up near the cap. I then pulled an Ashton Cabinet belicoso out and the wrapper was coming unwound up near the cap...that one brought a tear to my eye so I smoked it. My digital has been showing a steady 68-70 rh forever...humi is a Vigilant 1500 (yeah, sure) stick end-table style cabinet. Any thoughts appreciated.
Murray

Sounds like you might be cutting too much of the cap.

bobarian · 08-26-2011, 10:27 PM

Unwrapping near the cap is unusual, the cap should keep the wrapper in place, that's the reason for the cap in the first place. Were the caps intact? You many need to recalibrate your hygrometer. What are you using for humidification? In a larger unit like that you may need several sources to keep the humidity even throughout.

CigarNut · 08-26-2011, 10:38 PM

One other thing that can cause wrappers to split is a big difference in humidity between what the cigars are stored at in your humidor and the ambient humidity where you are smoking.

I'm not sure that this is your problem, but it is something to be aware of.

Tallman · 08-26-2011, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian

Unwrapping near the cap is unusual, the cap should keep the wrapper in place, that's the reason for the cap in the first place. Were the caps intact? You many need to recalibrate your hygrometer. What are you using for humidification? In a larger unit like that you may need several sources to keep the humidity even throughout.

Thank you. The cap was intact, I've tried to attach a photo and couldn't figure out how to resize it...I'll work on that tomorrow. The Ashton is now a happy memory. The humidor has a water tray, wick and fan, and I have a couple Bovedas scattered throughout. The hygrometer was recalibrated using the moist salt method about two weeks ago.

Murray

irratebass · 08-26-2011, 11:40 PM

How often should you refill your humidifier?

bobarian · 08-27-2011, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tallman

Thank you. The cap was intact, I've tried to attach a photo and couldn't figure out how to resize it...I'll work on that tomorrow. The Ashton is now a happy memory. The humidor has a water tray, wick and fan, and I have a couple Bovedas scattered throughout. The hygrometer was recalibrated using the moist salt method about two weeks ago.

Murray

Interesting. Splits can occur randomly although they can be an indication of high humidity. Sometimes with active humidification like yours the sticks closer to the source will be slightly higher rh. But as to the cause of the unwrapping at the cap I am stumped. If its just a stick or two maybe it was just a random occurrence, more than that I would look deeper for a cause.

Quote:

Originally Posted by irratebass

How often should you refill your humidifier?

This would depend on the type of humidifier. Active humidifiers like Oasis or Hydra's have a reservoir you fill when it runs dry. Gel or beads will turn color as they dry and require water. The other indicator would be when your rh drops below your desired level by 5% or more.

irratebass · 08-27-2011, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobarian

Interesting. Splits can occur randomly although they can be an indication of high humidity. Sometimes with active humidification like yours the sticks closer to the source will be slightly higher rh. But as to the cause of the unwrapping at the cap I am stumped. If its just a stick or two maybe it was just a random occurrence, more than that I would look deeper for a cause.

This would depend on the type of humidifier. Active humidifiers like Oasis or Hydra's have a reservoir you fill when it runs dry. Gel or beads will turn color as they dry and require water. The other indicator would be when your rh drops below your desired level by 5% or more.

These humidifiers:

Bottom pic the humidifier is in the top middle section above the case.

bobarian · 08-27-2011, 12:51 AM

Those look like foam filled humidifiers. Unless you are using propylene glycol all they do is add moisture, very difficult to regulate with those as they do not absorb excess humidity. I would switch to a couple of 1oz tubes of Heartfelt beads(heartfeltindustries.com) or a Puck from Cigarmony.com. The Puck is filled with beads. Both are trouble free and easy to use.

08-13-2011, 08:45 AM	#1401
688sonarmen Shipmate! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Jake Location: Norwich, Ct Posts: 2,698 Trading: (17)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Bodivas will last for several months. Like Bill said a tupperware container may be your best option. As far as freezing goes that is typically something for the really sick folk with very large collections that can't be checked 100% every day or week. (Checking each box/each stick for beetles) but some info from guys much smarter than I on it http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...eezing+science

08-13-2011, 10:15 AM	#1402
irratebass EMPEROR TOMPKINS Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Mickey Location: Mooresville, Indiana Posts: 8,313 Trading: (48)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Thanks Bill & Jake my funds are very limited, but will take note on that, because I am sure down the road I will need something like this. I did find a water pillow and will use that for these cheapies I just bought. __________________

08-13-2011, 11:44 AM	#1404
irratebass EMPEROR TOMPKINS Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Mickey Location: Mooresville, Indiana Posts: 8,313 Trading: (48)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Thanks, I figure with the pillow and only for a week I should be ok. __________________

08-13-2011, 11:53 AM	#1405
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Ziplock bags are fine for temporary storage. Just ask MoTheMan.

08-25-2011, 08:38 AM	#1406
irratebass EMPEROR TOMPKINS Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Mickey Location: Mooresville, Indiana Posts: 8,313 Trading: (48)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Stupid question maybe, but look up at Illinoishoosier's info.....what are those circles at the bottom? I have one....is this in regards to trades, and I have seen some people have two cigar bands at the bottom, I only have one....or is this something that will be opened to me later after I have been here longer? __________________

08-25-2011, 08:56 AM	#1407
pnoon YNWA Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Peter Location: San Diego Posts: 29,919 Trading: (20)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Circles are added as levels of "reputation" are reached. The circles or measure of rep means squat. People give rep for a variety of valid or inane reasons. The rep system is just a vehicle to send a personal/private note to another member. Some members, like me, have disabled the display of the rings. The two bands you speak of can be set from you user control panel. One is for your favorite Cuba marca. The other is for actve/retired miltary folks. Posted via Mobile Device

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08-25-2011, 09:37 AM	#1409
irratebass EMPEROR TOMPKINS Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Mickey Location: Mooresville, Indiana Posts: 8,313 Trading: (48)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Peter....D'oh I knew it was for the military, thanks as well Tom __________________

08-26-2011, 10:18 PM	#1412
Tallman Still Watching My Back Join Date: Mar 2011 First Name: Murray Location: Arkansas Posts: 114 Trading: (6)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Wrappers splitting... Hello all, noob question-is "too dry" or "too humid" more likely to cause split wrappers? Or is it not that simple? I just pulled an Oliva connecticut shade stick out of the humidor, and it was split near the foot And the wrapper was coming "unwrapped" up near the cap. I then pulled an Ashton Cabinet belicoso out and the wrapper was coming unwound up near the cap...that one brought a tear to my eye so I smoked it. My digital has been showing a steady 68-70 rh forever...humi is a Vigilant 1500 (yeah, sure) stick end-table style cabinet. Any thoughts appreciated. Murray

08-26-2011, 10:27 PM	#1414
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Unwrapping near the cap is unusual, the cap should keep the wrapper in place, that's the reason for the cap in the first place. Were the caps intact? You many need to recalibrate your hygrometer. What are you using for humidification? In a larger unit like that you may need several sources to keep the humidity even throughout.

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08-26-2011, 11:40 PM	#1417
irratebass EMPEROR TOMPKINS Join Date: Aug 2011 First Name: Mickey Location: Mooresville, Indiana Posts: 8,313 Trading: (48)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) How often should you refill your humidifier? __________________

08-27-2011, 12:51 AM	#1420
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!) Those look like foam filled humidifiers. Unless you are using propylene glycol all they do is add moisture, very difficult to regulate with those as they do not absorb excess humidity. I would switch to a couple of 1oz tubes of Heartfelt beads(heartfeltindustries.com) or a Puck from Cigarmony.com. The Puck is filled with beads. Both are trouble free and easy to use.