First Firearm Thread.

[chippewastud79]

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak

If that ad is legit, that is freakin awesome

Its not, and its been posted a few times with small differences, but it is damn funny

[elderboy02]

Originally Posted by GreekGodX

I got 2 different caliber guns but I'm not going to say what they are until I have them in my possession

1 is a .40 and the other a .45.

I know what you bought. Both guns are sweet!

[Tikihut27]

Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05

Also what is the difference between a Pre and Post ban upper?

I didn't see an answer to this question- Post-ban uppers usually don't have bayonet lugs and threaded barrels. Some states (like mine- NY) kept the ban on "assault rifles" after the national one expired. General rules are that if it has a detachable magazine you may have one, and only one, of the following:

Folding/collapsable stock
Pistol grip
Threaded bbl
Bayonet lug
Grenade launching adapter

Most people opt for the pistol grip, since most modern rifles look funny without one. Only counts for weapons manufactured after September 14, 1994. Older weapons are grandfathered.

Most mfr's are aware of this and don't want to write off sales to large states like NY, so post-ban configurations are frequently available, as lame as they may be.

[gettysburgfreak]

Originally Posted by Tikihut27

I didn't see an answer to this question- Post-ban uppers usually don't have bayonet lugs and threaded barrels. Some states (like mine- NY) kept the ban on "assault rifles" after the national one expired. General rules are that if it has a detachable magazine you may have one, and only one, of the following:

Folding/collapsable stock
Pistol grip
Threaded bbl
Bayonet lug
Grenade launching adapter

Most people opt for the pistol grip, since most modern rifles look funny without one. Only counts for weapons manufactured after September 14, 1994. Older weapons are grandfathered.

Most mfr's are aware of this and don't want to write off sales to large states like NY, so post-ban configurations are frequently available, as lame as they may be.

I'm glad you brought this up. I was planning on buying an AR-15 online and had it shipped home in NY for me to pick up. I had a nice DPMS picked out and when I was negotiating with the dealer online he told me I wouldn't be able to get it since I lived in NY. I think I will just pick one up in Texas while I am down there for 10 months.

[smokeyandthebandit05]

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak

I'm glad you brought this up. I was planning on buying an AR-15 online and had it shipped home in NY for me to pick up. I had a nice DPMS picked out and when I was negotiating with the dealer online he told me I wouldn't be able to get it since I lived in NY. I think I will just pick one up in Texas while I am down there for 10 months.

Did he give you any reason not to ship it?

[gettysburgfreak]

Originally Posted by smokeyandthebandit05

Did he give you any reason not to ship it?

He said I would have had to change a bunch of things on the gun to comply with NY laws and they were mods that I did not want.

[smokeyandthebandit05]

ohhhh ok. I hate NY and NJ. On a side note. Can a NJ resident purchase in NY?



What do u guys think of this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-EOTECH...item3a56ad50ef

[M1903A1]

Question...who makes a good, reliable FN-FAL/L1A1/SLR-type rifle? I'd prefer one of the ones made up from surplus parts if possible.

[theonlybear4CORT]

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak

He said I would have had to change a bunch of things on the gun to comply with NY laws and they were mods that I did not want.

So then it would be illegal to have the upper in NY if you bought it out of state rite?

[Tikihut27]

Originally Posted by sonic_mike

So then it would be illegal to have the upper in NY if you bought it out of state rite?

Only of you have a lower to go with it.

I'd be careful about buying out-of-state. The law is not on buying/selling banned firearms- it's on posession. Best to comply with the law. I buy pre-ban, or modify. Someday I'll move and catch up on everything I've missed.

[gettysburgfreak]

I'm not exactly sure on all the ridiculous laws NY has so I am thinking it will be easier just to buy the exact gun I want in Texas and not have to worry about anything. If I bought an AR-15 out of state and someday moved back home with my parents in NY would my gun be illegal to own?

[JE3146]

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak

I'm not exactly sure on all the ridiculous laws NY has so I am thinking it will be easier just to buy the exact gun I want in Texas and not have to worry about anything. If I bought an AR-15 out of state and someday moved back home with my parents in NY would my gun be illegal to own?

Do yourself a huge favor and please research gun laws for your state.

A HUGE favor.

First off. You can't directly purchase a gun out of state. It has to be purchased, then mailed to an FFL dealer. THEN you go to the FFL and pickup the rifle after your state required background check is completed. Obviously if you buy it in state, it's from an FFL. (The requirement for in state sales are that you are a resident of that state)

The exception is person to person transfers which are not legal in all states, but are only allowed when a resident of a state sells to another resident of that state, within the boundary of that state.

In the case of the AR-15 and NY, it cannot happen if it is either A) Not post-ban compliant (IE compliant to the terms of the 1994 AWB) or B) a pre-ban (IE, a receiver that was registered prior to 1994)

I realize this isn't a gun forum, but please do some research before purchasing an AR-15.

[gettysburgfreak]

Originally Posted by JE3146

Do yourself a huge favor and please research gun laws for your state.

A HUGE favor.

First off. You can't directly purchase a gun out of state. It has to be purchased, then mailed to an FFL dealer. THEN you go to the FFL and pickup the rifle after your state required background check is completed. Obviously if you buy it in state, it's from an FFL. (The requirement for in state sales are that you are a resident of that state)

The exception is person to person transfers which are not legal in all states, but are only allowed when a resident of a state sells to another resident of that state, within the boundary of that state.

In the case of the AR-15 and NY, it cannot happen if it is either A) Not post-ban compliant (IE compliant to the terms of the 1994 AWB) or B) a pre-ban (IE, a receiver that was registered prior to 1994)

I realize this isn't a gun forum, but please do some research before purchasing an AR-15.

Thanks for the tips. I was speaking with some of my firearms instructors and they made it seem like all I had to do was show a Texas drivers license and I would be able to purchase a AR with no problems down in Texas due to their relaxed gun laws.

[Tikihut27]

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak

Thanks for the tips. I was speaking with some of my firearms instructors and they made it seem like all I had to do was show a Texas drivers license and I would be able to purchase a AR with no problems down in Texas due to their relaxed gun laws.

Sure you could. You just can't bring it back to NY.

When you come back up this way, if you are interested in an AR, let me know and I can help. I have built several ban-compliant AR's and am helping someone else with one right now.

[Titan410]

Originally Posted by M1903A1

Question...who makes a good, reliable FN-FAL/L1A1/SLR-type rifle? I'd prefer one of the ones made up from surplus parts if possible.

DS Arms makes good stuff. I bought my FAL from a respected FAL builder, Rich at CGW, but he's no longer building them AFAIK.

[gettysburgfreak]

Originally Posted by Tikihut27

Sure you could. You just can't bring it back to NY.

When you come back up this way, if you are interested in an AR, let me know and I can help. I have built several ban-compliant AR's and am helping someone else with one right now.

I would be interested. I will be home Feb 20th for hopefully 11 days depending on if I get my leave request ok'd.

[M1903A1]

Originally Posted by Titan410

DS Arms makes good stuff. I bought my FAL from a respected FAL builder, Rich at CGW, but he's no longer building them AFAIK.

Do they sell under any particular brand name or have a website? And are there any makers to stay away from? I've heard there's at least one maker (CAI?) whose FALs are often full of problems.

[JE3146]

Originally Posted by gettysburgfreak

Thanks for the tips. I was speaking with some of my firearms instructors and they made it seem like all I had to do was show a Texas drivers license and I would be able to purchase a AR with no problems down in Texas due to their relaxed gun laws.

If you live in Texas and have a Texas driver's license, then you can buy a gun in Texas.

But you cannot bring it back to NY in the configuration you buy it in, unless it is post-ban compliant.

[Cigarcop]

Hey any of you Ar guru's, whatcha think about the Troy Industries Rails...I need a 11 or 12" Rail for a project and not exactly sure what direction to go.

Def Rifle length, full free float, one piece, was also thinking DD Light rail for a bit more cashola>

[AAlmeter]

Originally Posted by Tikihut27

Sure you could. You just can't bring it back to NY.

When you come back up this way, if you are interested in an AR, let me know and I can help. I have built several ban-compliant AR's and am helping someone else with one right now.

I'd also be willing to help. I've built a few now as well and at the very least point you in the direction of a good FFL dealer/gunsmith who can make sure you're NY legal. I'm in the Buffalo area, and my knowledge of good FFLs/gunsmiths is limited to that area. Feel free to PM or email me.