NHL '09 - '10 Thread - Page 68

icehog3 · 03-18-2010, 01:07 AM

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Wisniewski argued that Seabrook's injury was not due to a hit to the head.

"It probably will get looked at, but the result wasn't because of a shot to the head. I'm 5-foot-11 and he's 6-3. What happened was that my face hit his face. The visor came down and cut up my nose. I was shocked when I saw the result of it on the replay," Wisniewski said.

"I didn't do anything wrong," Wisniewski added. "The result of what happened isn't good, but there wasn't anything wrong that I did."

mtaill · 03-18-2010, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Saw the hit this morning and I don't see anything illegal with it.
Just a hard legal hit to me.

03-18-2010, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

And Dustin Byfuglien stood around after the play and let Ducan Keith fight Wiz. What a freaking pu$$y.

This is typical of Byfuglien, he seems to be all talk and rarely fights.

jmsremax · 03-18-2010, 08:41 AM

Bruins game tonight. I can not wait! I will post pics if any fights are on my end of the ice (seats are near the Bruins bench but closer to the corner).

icehog3 · 03-18-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mtaill

Saw the hit this morning and I don't see anything illegal with it.
Just a hard legal hit to me.

We will just agree to disagree then, and see which one of us the NHL agrees with.

Stick up, forearm to the face against the glass.....sure, what's wrong with that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp7B81Kx66o

jmsremax · 03-18-2010, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mtaill

Saw the hit this morning and I don't see anything illegal with it.
Just a hard legal hit to me.

I disagree...Seabrook wasn't even in the play and look how hard Wisniewski skates over to him just so he can deliberately throw a high elbow/stick to his face. Completely uncalled for.

icehog3 · 03-18-2010, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jmsremax

I disagree...Seabrook wasn't even in the play and look how hard Wisniewski skates over to him just so he can deliberately throw a high elbow to his face. Completely uncalled for.

Yup...He skated 65 feet in from the blueline with the intent to injure. There was no other reason for him to be in deep on that play. I guess we shall see what Colin Campbell has to say on the matter.

yourchoice · 03-18-2010, 09:19 AM

Thanks for the link to the replay Tom. I watched a good chunk of the game last night on NHL Network, but missed it. That was a vicious hit.

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Originally Posted by jmsremax

I disagree...Seabrook wasn't even in the play and look how hard Wisniewski skates over to him just so he can deliberately throw a high elbow/stick to his face. Completely uncalled for.

It seemed pretty clear to me the hit was delivered as a response to Seabrook's hit 20 seconds earlier. Was Wisniewski's hit illegal? Yes. Intent to injure? Not sure...really hard to say. Uncalled for? IMHO, no. Seabrook was late delivering his check...which looked high and bounced the guy's head off of the boards. The hit he received clearly seemed retaliatory and, IMHO, definitely served a purpose. Just like fighting majors, some are uncalled for, but many serve a purpose in the game.

All IMHO.

Ahbroody · 03-18-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mtaill

Saw the hit this morning and I don't see anything illegal with it.
Just a hard legal hit to me.

you saw this and think it was a hard legal hit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtSx2z_CPKQ
I see charging, elbowing, and the all important headshot. He left his feet just to get the elbow to the face. Nope nothing illegal there.

Surely neither of you should have an issue with this hit either. After all McAmmond had the puck only a second prior.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LItMq...eature=related

jmsremax · 03-18-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by yourchoice

Was Wisniewski's hit illegal? Yes. Intent to injure? Not sure...really hard to say. Uncalled for? IMHO, no. Seabrook was late delivering his check...which looked high and bounced the guy's head off of the boards. The hit he received clearly seemed retaliatory and, IMHO, definitely served a purpose. Just like fighting majors, some are uncalled for, but many serve a purpose in the game.

All IMHO.

Illegal hits should never been called for. Settle it in the appropriate manner....take off the gloves and fight it out. Players seem to be retaliating in an unprofessional manner and it's causing some serious injuries.

icehog3 · 03-18-2010, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by yourchoice

Thanks for the link to the replay Tom. I watched a good chunk of the game last night on NHL Network, but missed it. That was a vicious hit.

It seemed pretty clear to me the hit was delivered as a response to Seabrook's hit 20 seconds earlier. Was Wisniewski's hit illegal? Yes. Intent to injure? Not sure...really hard to say. Uncalled for? IMHO, no. Seabrook was late delivering his check...which looked high and bounced the guy's head off of the boards. The hit he received clearly seemed retaliatory and, IMHO, definitely served a purpose. Just like fighting majors, some are uncalled for, but many serve a purpose in the game.

All IMHO.

While I agree the hit on Perry was late also, it only caught him high because Perry was bent low, I don't think there was any intent to deliver a head shot. Wiz left his feet and came charging from 65 feet out to put his stick and forearm into Seabrook's melon. I absolutely think if was uncalled for, but again, I respect your view, but hope that Campbell sees it the way I do.

yourchoice · 03-18-2010, 01:02 PM

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Illegal hits should never been called for. Settle it in the appropriate manner....take off the gloves and fight it out. Players seem to be retaliating in an unprofessional manner and it's causing some serious injuries.

I don't think explained myself clearly. It was illegal in the fact it should have been a penalty. Fighting is, by the same definition, illegal. Same with hooking, slashing, etc.

I think what makes hockey such a great sport is that the players can, to some extent, police themselves. It's tough to balance self-policing and 100% clean play though. If rules were put in place that took some of that away I think the sport’s popularity would diminish even further.

It's kind of similar to the headache (pun not intended) that Nascar is dealing with right now. They want their drivers to police themselves on the track, because that's what the fans want. Then in their fourth race someone gets intentionally spun and accidentally flipped upside down. Oops! Now what? (Sorry for bringing Nascar into the discussion!

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To really confuse matters (

) if Wisniewski were suspended I wouldn't have a problem with it. I just didn't see the hit as "uncalled for". If a player gets hurt by way of an illegal hit, then I think it should be left up to the discretion of the league whether any further action should be taken (probation, fines, suspensions, etc.), regardless if the intent was to injure (which I think is impossible to determine anyway). The fact that the hit was illegal is enough for me.

yourchoice · 03-18-2010, 01:09 PM

Now if only the Flyers had a dependable goalie...

I am wary enough of Leighton. Now with him out for now (D2D), they have to rely on Boucher?

The Flyers haven't had a top 6 goalie since Lindbergh, arguably a top 10 in Hextall, but either way it's been more than or close to 20 years.

icehog3 · 03-18-2010, 05:01 PM

From ESPN.com:

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The NHL is suspending Anaheim Ducks defenseman James Wisniewski eight games for his hit on Chicago Blackhawks defenseman Brent Seabrook, multiple sources told ESPN

Bruins Fan · 03-18-2010, 05:51 PM

Boston Garden is going to be rocking tonight.
It's payback time the B's got to man up, that have to? The team is honoring the last team to win the cup and the legends will be in attendance?

icehog3 · 03-18-2010, 08:17 PM

Matt Cooke was on the ice for about 10 seconds before Thornton almost punched his head through the ice.

jmsremax · 03-18-2010, 09:58 PM

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Boston Garden is going to be rocking tonight.
It's payback time the B's got to man up, that have to? The team is honoring the last team to win the cup and the legends will be in attendance?

Outside of the first 3 minutes of the game it was sloppy. I can't believe they are even an 8th seed right now.

Ahbroody · 03-18-2010, 10:31 PM

Brandon Prust is a bad motha fer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0b7APQdzyM

icehog3 · 03-19-2010, 01:47 AM

Wow, no opinions from those who thought Wisniewski's hit was legal?

Nice character win from the Hawks tonight while missing 3 of their top 5 defensemen. Byfuglien actually played some good D, and the Hawks tied the Sharks again for ast in the West.

Ahbroody · 03-19-2010, 02:52 AM

I thought it was Bush if that helps Tom. You know people dont have much to say when they get rick jamesd.

The Sharks continue their crap play dropping a 4th consecutive game. If the Yotes keep winning and the Sharks keep imploding they will be in 4th by next week. As it sits the Yotes have more wins so a tie will equal 4th for the Sharks. Why stop there though maybe they can manage to fall to 5th or 6th. One of the only bright notes has been Joe Pavelskis play. Fresh off the Olympics he has not gone into the Outhouse like certain other olympic participants who are having trouble locating the net. Tonight the Sharks had 22 shots missed the net. Nevermind those that did.

Good thing I sold off most of my first round tickets again. Sad listening to the broadcasters trying to say its because these other teams are desperate for points. The Sharks are now desperate for points.

Side note. The CCM Ovie curve is wicked sick. Just siiiiiiiiiiick. That is all.
OOOO and Bersmochi sucks. Friggin dude turned into a ghost.

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yourchoice Down the stretch Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joel Location: South Jersey Posts: 4,091 Trading: (36)	Re: NHL '09 - '10 Thread Now if only the Flyers had a dependable goalie... I am wary enough of Leighton. Now with him out for now (D2D), they have to rely on Boucher? The Flyers haven't had a top 6 goalie since Lindbergh, arguably a top 10 in Hextall, but either way it's been more than or close to 20 years.

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Bruins Fan Hooper drives the boat. Join Date: May 2009 First Name: John Location: Cape Cod Posts: 1,359 Trading: (0)	Re: NHL '09 - '10 Thread Boston Garden is going to be rocking tonight. It's payback time the B's got to man up, that have to? The team is honoring the last team to win the cup and the legends will be in attendance? __________________ Here's to swimmin' with bow-legged women.

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icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,266 Trading: (60)	Re: NHL '09 - '10 Thread Matt Cooke was on the ice for about 10 seconds before Thornton almost punched his head through the ice. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

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Ahbroody Daddy x 4 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: San Jose Posts: 3,708 Trading: (53)	Re: NHL '09 - '10 Thread Brandon Prust is a bad motha fer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0b7APQdzyM

03-19-2010, 01:47 AM	#1359
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,266 Trading: (60)	Re: NHL '09 - '10 Thread Wow, no opinions from those who thought Wisniewski's hit was legal? Nice character win from the Hawks tonight while missing 3 of their top 5 defensemen. Byfuglien actually played some good D, and the Hawks tied the Sharks again for ast in the West. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

03-19-2010, 02:52 AM	#1360
Ahbroody Daddy x 4 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: San Jose Posts: 3,708 Trading: (53)	Re: NHL '09 - '10 Thread I thought it was Bush if that helps Tom. You know people dont have much to say when they get rick jamesd. The Sharks continue their crap play dropping a 4th consecutive game. If the Yotes keep winning and the Sharks keep imploding they will be in 4th by next week. As it sits the Yotes have more wins so a tie will equal 4th for the Sharks. Why stop there though maybe they can manage to fall to 5th or 6th. One of the only bright notes has been Joe Pavelskis play. Fresh off the Olympics he has not gone into the Outhouse like certain other olympic participants who are having trouble locating the net. Tonight the Sharks had 22 shots missed the net. Nevermind those that did. Good thing I sold off most of my first round tickets again. Sad listening to the broadcasters trying to say its because these other teams are desperate for points. The Sharks are now desperate for points. Side note. The CCM Ovie curve is wicked sick. Just siiiiiiiiiiick. That is all. OOOO and Bersmochi sucks. Friggin dude turned into a ghost.