How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post - Page 6

11-15-2009, 05:23 PM

OK!

Through the freezer they go! Told the wife to work around them & don't set the Xmas ham on them. So glad to learn this the easy way and not the 'hard' way. Thanks for all the great info!

Tim L.

12-07-2009, 03:43 PM

I didnt see this asked in the thread so if I missed it sorry.

After you freeze how long til they are smokable? I froze my collection almost three weeks ago after I saw some holes looking similar to the ones on here and some of them still feel wet or moist. Humidity is bordering around 68-70

wayner123 · 12-07-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Aldebaran

I didnt see this asked in the thread so if I missed it sorry.

After you freeze how long til they are smokable? I froze my collection almost three weeks ago after I saw some holes looking similar to the ones on here and some of them still feel wet or moist. Humidity is bordering around 68-70

Opinions are probably going to vary, but I have been known to smoke them as soon as they return to room temperature.

14holestogie · 12-07-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wayner123

Opinions are probably going to vary, but I have been known to smoke them as soon as they return to room temperature.

Yep, me too.

12-07-2009, 04:53 PM

As a test I actually smoked one directly from the the freezer and found no ill effects.

Typically I will let it come back to temp, then I they are full game.

12-07-2009, 05:04 PM

I don't think it would make much difference straight out of the freezer. I have gone for walks with a cigar in my pocket in -20C or so... then smoked it on the way home.

Perfecto · 12-13-2009, 08:56 PM

OK...after reading everything here I have a question about not freezing that I didn't see covered. If it was covered, sorry, here's the question anyway.

I have always been aware of the beetle thing but have never froze....yet.
I do segregate all my new stuff for a period of time before I let them mingle with the crowd and allow them to get up close and personal and talk to other sticks. Maybe I've just been lucky so far.........

What would one suggest the allotted time be to keep them segregated to see if there are going to any hatching?

Thanks for the input........

14holestogie · 12-14-2009, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfecto

OK...after reading everything here I have a question about not freezing that I didn't see covered. If it was covered, sorry, here's the question anyway.

I have always been aware of the beetle thing but have never froze....yet.
I do segregate all my new stuff for a period of time before I let them mingle with the crowd and allow them to get up close and personal and talk to other sticks. Maybe I've just been lucky so far.........

What would one suggest the allotted time be to keep them segregated to see if there are going to any hatching?

Thanks for the input........

You have been lucky, so far. It's kind of like driving without insurance. As long as you don't hit anything, you're golden. One bad incident, however, and you're in the poor house.

As the eggs can lay dormant for some time until the conditions are right, I'm not sure any length of time segregated can insure non-infestation.

Take out the insurance policy and freeze and have some peace of mind.

Perfecto · 12-14-2009, 08:09 AM

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As the eggs can lay dormant for some time until the conditions are right, I'm not sure any length of time segregated can insure non-infestation.

Thanks Tim.........I fully understand the consequences...but this what I was trying to find out. How long can they lay dorm and what are the conditions?

puff on..........Dave

14holestogie · 12-14-2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfecto

Thanks Tim.........I fully understand the consequences...but this what I was trying to find out. How long can they lay dorm and what are the conditions?

puff on..........Dave

Typical life span from egg to adult is 10-12 weeks.

They can continue to flourish even below 70*, although at a slower rate.

Two days in the freezer would seem to be a better option.

Coach Deg · 12-14-2009, 12:38 PM

Great info!!! Thank you!!!

MiamiE · 01-25-2010, 10:07 AM

Great. I will start by freezing my current stock!

02-14-2010, 11:02 PM

Awesome discussion. Thanks guys. Information like this is invaluable to a newbie like me.

02-18-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MTBAlex

Awesome discussion. Thanks guys. Information like this is invaluable to a newbie like me.

I'm in the same boat..This is prob the most valuable cigar thread I've ever read.

02-18-2010, 07:24 PM

Thanks gentlemen I am glad you got some value out of it. That makes it worth writing up stuff like this if people get some value from it.

MiamiE · 03-02-2010, 07:49 PM

That's my problem. Two boxes of tubos way over humified. My humi is 68* and 62% but I want to kind of get these things dried up!

MiamiE · 03-02-2010, 07:53 PM

They came from the vendor like this.

03-02-2010, 09:05 PM

Well if the mold is off them just let them acclimate slowly, rushing the process can cause uneven humidification in the cigar causing burn issues etc.

Give em a month or two and they should be fine, assuming you took them out of the tubos.

MiamiE · 03-02-2010, 09:19 PM

I was hoping to be able to keep them in the tubos once I dry them out. Should remove them from the tubos?

icehog3 · 03-02-2010, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiE

I was hoping to be able to keep them in the tubos once I dry them out. Should remove them from the tubos?

If there is cedar in your tubos, remove that for sure.

11-15-2009, 05:23 PM	#1
fyrftr Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long OK! Through the freezer they go! Told the wife to work around them & don't set the Xmas ham on them. So glad to learn this the easy way and not the 'hard' way. Thanks for all the great info! Tim L.

12-07-2009, 03:43 PM	#2
Aldebaran Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long I didnt see this asked in the thread so if I missed it sorry. After you freeze how long til they are smokable? I froze my collection almost three weeks ago after I saw some holes looking similar to the ones on here and some of them still feel wet or moist. Humidity is bordering around 68-70

12-07-2009, 04:53 PM	#5
SilverFox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long As a test I actually smoked one directly from the the freezer and found no ill effects. Typically I will let it come back to temp, then I they are full game.

12-07-2009, 05:04 PM	#6
str8edg Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long I don't think it would make much difference straight out of the freezer. I have gone for walks with a cigar in my pocket in -20C or so... then smoked it on the way home.

12-13-2009, 08:56 PM	#7
Perfecto Here Hear......... Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Dave Location: AZ Posts: 17 Trading: (0)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long OK...after reading everything here I have a question about not freezing that I didn't see covered. If it was covered, sorry, here's the question anyway. I have always been aware of the beetle thing but have never froze....yet. I do segregate all my new stuff for a period of time before I let them mingle with the crowd and allow them to get up close and personal and talk to other sticks. Maybe I've just been lucky so far......... What would one suggest the allotted time be to keep them segregated to see if there are going to any hatching? Thanks for the input........ __________________ *What would you like in Anejos?*

12-14-2009, 12:38 PM	#11
Coach Deg C O W eieio. Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Mike Location: Hudson, FL Posts: 2,853 Trading: (59)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Great info!!! Thank you!!!

01-25-2010, 10:07 AM	#12
MiamiE I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Erick Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,892 Trading: (38)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Great. I will start by freezing my current stock!

02-14-2010, 11:02 PM	#13
MTBAlex Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Awesome discussion. Thanks guys. Information like this is invaluable to a newbie like me.

02-18-2010, 07:24 PM	#15
SilverFox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Thanks gentlemen I am glad you got some value out of it. That makes it worth writing up stuff like this if people get some value from it.

03-02-2010, 07:49 PM	#16
MiamiE I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Erick Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,892 Trading: (38)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post That's my problem. Two boxes of tubos way over humified. My humi is 68* and 62% but I want to kind of get these things dried up!

03-02-2010, 07:53 PM	#17
MiamiE I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Erick Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,892 Trading: (38)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post They came from the vendor like this.

03-02-2010, 09:05 PM	#18
SilverFox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post Well if the mold is off them just let them acclimate slowly, rushing the process can cause uneven humidification in the cigar causing burn issues etc. Give em a month or two and they should be fine, assuming you took them out of the tubos.

03-02-2010, 09:19 PM	#19
MiamiE I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Erick Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,892 Trading: (38)	Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long Post I was hoping to be able to keep them in the tubos once I dry them out. Should remove them from the tubos?