Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars - Page 5

Smokin Gator · 11-02-2009, 09:33 PM

LOL... I too didn't really what they made. I went and looked and they have several CC names. I know the arguments for them being able to use them... I just think it is funny they would bust someone else's chops about using something so widespread.

Lobo · 11-02-2009, 09:37 PM

Jeeeezzzz, why cant they all just get along?..... why cant people play nice?... another soap opera begins in the courts, over a symbol that belongs to the French anyhow... lol

s15driftking · 11-03-2009, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lobo

another soap opera begins in the courts, over a symbol that belongs to the French anyhow... lol

SUE FRANCE!!!!!

for having such a aesthetically pleasing design!!!

Skywalker · 11-03-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking

SUE FRANCE!!!!!

for having such a aesthetically pleasing design!!!

11-03-2009, 12:50 PM

I have to agree with Altadis on this one. They have to protect their trademark or they lose it.

11-03-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking

tatuaje sucks, altadis sucks, the browns suck.... this thread sucks

and Gurkhas are AWESOME cigars, right Bob?

s15driftking · 11-03-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by darrell

and gurkhas are awesome cigars, right bob?

damn right!

Emjaysmash · 11-03-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking

damn right!

Well, atleast I know who I can bomb my Gurkhas to...

Rabidsquirrel · 11-03-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Emjaysmash

Well, atleast I know who I can bomb my Gurkhas to...

Aren't dirty bombs a violation of the Geneva Convention?

s15driftking · 11-03-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Emjaysmash

Well, atleast I know who I can bomb my Gurkhas to...

you looking for any trades? pm me with a gurkha-inventory!

11-03-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by s15driftking

you looking for any trades? pm me with a gurkha-inventory!

Gurkhas suck.

sikk50 · 11-03-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hoax

I have to agree with Altadis on this one. They have to protect their trademark or they lose it.

Even though they just trademarked it this year the day before the show he was showing off his new products at, then told him at his booth at the show the very next day to stop using the symbol?

I'm normaly all for protecting trademarks and I'm by now means a Tat fan boy (Perdomo fan boy maybe though), but this whole thing has reaked from the beginning.

11-03-2009, 06:08 PM

Altadis will never win a suit against Tatuaje or anyone else for trademark infringement simply because you can't claim trademark infringement if the mark in question is a historical or cultural symbol, which the Fleur De Lys clearly is. In cases like this the court will only rule in favor if the symbol can be proven to have been CREATED by Altadis, which is clearly was not. Unless they were around 1000 years ago.

More than likely they are doing this because they are bigger, probably retain a nice law firm, and wanted to make life a little difficult for their biggest competition.

Thrak · 11-03-2009, 06:23 PM

I wonder if they're going to sue the N.O. Saints too lol!

11-03-2009, 06:31 PM

anyone else research the lawsuit??

The Main Reason isn't about Tatuaje.

It's about Tabacalera de Garcia.

Which one you might ask??

That's why there is a lawsuit.

11-04-2009, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by covetry

Altadis will never win a suit against Tatuaje or anyone else for trademark infringement simply because you can't claim trademark infringement if the mark in question is a historical or cultural symbol, which the Fleur De Lys clearly is. I

NFL holds the Fleur de Lys as a trademark in respect to football and NFL related merchandising. So that argument is clearly false. But if you want to look up where in the USC or in international intellectual property laws say that is the case then please prove me wrong.

Trademarks are an important part of society and in business. The maintain image and prevent or limit unfair business and imitators.

D_A · 11-20-2009, 06:52 PM

Looks like they agreed on a settlement

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar...4,2977,00.html

11-20-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by markem

btw, IANAL.

you're anal???......

sorry, but it was such a softball.....

markem · 11-20-2009, 07:01 PM

No surprise there. In general, the people who feel the most vindicated or got the upper hand are the ones who make the announcements.

Whipper Snapper · 11-22-2009, 05:20 PM

my butt itches...

11-02-2009, 09:33 PM	#81
Smokin Gator Just plain insane! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Swamp Posts: 6,237 Trading: (106)	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars LOL... I too didn't really what they made. I went and looked and they have several CC names. I know the arguments for them being able to use them... I just think it is funny they would bust someone else's chops about using something so widespread. __________________ Check out the Cigar Asylum Newbie Sampler Trade

11-02-2009, 09:37 PM	#82
Lobo its all good mmmkay! Join Date: Jul 2009 First Name: Kev Location: Pacific NorthWest Posts: 83 Trading: (1)	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars Jeeeezzzz, why cant they all just get along?..... why cant people play nice?... another soap opera begins in the courts, over a symbol that belongs to the French anyhow... lol

11-03-2009, 12:50 PM	#85
hoax Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars I have to agree with Altadis on this one. They have to protect their trademark or they lose it.

11-03-2009, 06:08 PM	#93
covetry Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars Altadis will never win a suit against Tatuaje or anyone else for trademark infringement simply because you can't claim trademark infringement if the mark in question is a historical or cultural symbol, which the Fleur De Lys clearly is. In cases like this the court will only rule in favor if the symbol can be proven to have been CREATED by Altadis, which is clearly was not. Unless they were around 1000 years ago. More than likely they are doing this because they are bigger, probably retain a nice law firm, and wanted to make life a little difficult for their biggest competition.

11-03-2009, 06:23 PM	#94
Thrak .. the man from Nantucket Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 558 Trading: (2)	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars I wonder if they're going to sue the N.O. Saints too lol!

11-03-2009, 06:31 PM	#95
tobii3 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars anyone else research the lawsuit?? The Main Reason isn't about Tatuaje. It's about Tabacalera de Garcia. Which one you might ask?? That's why there is a lawsuit.

11-20-2009, 06:52 PM	#97
D_A Dave's not here Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: David Location: NC Posts: 272 Trading: (7)	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars Looks like they agreed on a settlement http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar...4,2977,00.html

11-20-2009, 07:01 PM	#99
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,622 Trading: (47)	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars No surprise there. In general, the people who feel the most vindicated or got the upper hand are the ones who make the announcements. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

11-22-2009, 05:20 PM	#100
Whipper Snapper 95% Banter 5% MMM Habanos Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Blake Location: Shawnee Posts: 1,037 Trading: (0)	Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars my butt itches... __________________ "I don't feel that smoking makes me ashamed, and therefore I mean to smoke to the glory of God." -Charles Spurgeon.