Gurkha Hate

[Gophernut]

When I started smoking cigars again in earnest, I enjoyed the Gurkha Fuerte quite a bit. I haven't smoked too many other ones, but the ones I smoked weren't entirely memorable one way or the other. I was planning on revisiting the Fuerte line, but I understand the blend has been changed. That being the case, there are plenty of other cigars that I know I enjoy, so I haven't been too tempted to try any more.

[Malazan]

Damn, 5 pages of hate. That's what I'm talking about

Originally Posted by Malazan

Damn, 5 pages of hate. That's what I'm talking about

Entirely way too much time spent on said Gurkha!

Which Gurkha was blended by AJ Fernandez?

[fencefixer]

Originally Posted by Enphrared

Which Gurkha was blended by AJ Fernandez?

Park Avenue

Originally Posted by fencefixer

Park Avenue

AKA the one that is $2.5-3 and is actuality good.

I know who i want working for gurkha from now on.

Originally Posted by fencefixer

Park Avenue

Cool, I actually have one sitting in the box. Looking forward to it.

[CigarSquid]

Originally Posted by fencefixer

Park Avenue

I found that smoke.... boring.

[irratebass]

Originally Posted by garryyjr

I found that smoke.... boring.

I found it mild, but good.......of course I have only had one and this was early in my obsession, who knows how I would feel about it now.

[Don Fernando]

Originally Posted by Malazan

Being a noob, I was wondering why all the hate towards Gurkha.

Two reasons:
- Because they suck
- Because charging $15+ for a Torano made stick sucks

[Zeuceone]

[maninblack]

Very well stated Wade. Hit the nail on the head.

[Boobar]

Well said Volusianator.

[the jiggler]

Being rather green, I was sucked in by the names/labels. I had five or six and did not enjoy any of them. I even tried to infuse a couple of Ninjas with jager. Disaster.

To be fair, I recently picked up a cellar reserve at the encouragement of a local b&m owner here in Charlotte and it was quite good. Even at $7.95, I would buy it again.

[Theo Cincy]

I agree with what you are pointing out about tainting someone's perception of a cigar or brand. But the value I find in a website like this is we can share our opinions and thoughts of cigars and the cigar lifestyle. Cigar reviews/ discussions are all part and partial as long the are done in a respectful way. Although I may not always agree with it, I respect and value the opinion of my fellow BOTL. I would rather tell me "you may not want to spend $15 or 20 on that stick" and I can consider myself warned.

As a side note more of an observation, our join date to the site does not always correlate with our individual knowledge or length of history with cigars. Something some time I see in threads as an undertone. I am willing to earn my stripes on this site, but my history/love of cigars started long before I joined.

[lenguamor]

And I'll keep giving my opinion as long as this forum exists for that purpose, notwithstanding anyone else's opinion of my opinion.

[Volusianator]

Originally Posted by Theo Cincy

I respect and value the opinion of my fellow BOTL. I would rather tell me "you may not want to spend $15 or 20 on that stick" and I can consider myself warned.

Here alone lies the issue with internet "suggestions/opinions" (an honest review is different, and I'll get to that in a bit), If I were to ask a forum, "what do you guys think of cigar XXXXX? I'll get responses from "dude, they're awesome", "my all time favorite, you can't go wrong", "dog rocket", "these suck, just ask anyone", "read the threads man, nobody likes these." Which one of those replies asked me, "what do you like in a cigar", "do you prefer mild, medium, strong, spicey, more smooth & creamy", "have you found cigars from a particular country to be more favorable to you", "what flavors do you typically find you enjoy most"? Until some of those are asked, an opinion is no better than reading the companies promotional material itself, regardless if the suggestion/opinion was good or bad. So telling a guy, "go ahead try some more, the answer will become evident" is just a way of saying, "hey, go waste more money on these because you're never gonna like them" How does he know what the OP's preferences are? Same as just blindly following a members opinion here unless there's information on the cigar to back it up as I mentioned above. If someone is just saying, "hey, you'll love it" or "hey, you'll hate it", it means nothing.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by Volusianator

Here alone lies the issue with internet "suggestions/opinions" (an honest review is different, and I'll get to that in a bit), If I were to ask a forum, "what do you guys think of cigar XXXXX? I'll get responses from "dude, they're awesome", "my all time favorite, you can't go wrong", "dog rocket", "these suck, just ask anyone", "read the threads man, nobody likes these." Which one of those replies asked me, "what do you like in a cigar", "do you prefer mild, medium, strong, spicey, more smooth & creamy", "have you found cigars from a particular country to be more favorable to you", "what flavors do you typically find you enjoy most"? Until some of those are asked, an opinion is no better than reading the companies promotional material itself, regardless if the suggestion/opinion was good or bad. So telling a guy, "go ahead try some more, the answer will become evident" is just a way of saying, "hey, go waste more money on these because you're never gonna like them" How does he know what the OP's preferences are? Same as just blindly following a members opinion here unless there's information on the cigar to back it up as I mentioned above. If someone is just saying, "hey, you'll love it" or "hey, you'll hate it", it means nothing.

Spot on.
The only exception/caveat to that is that if a member I know and have smoked with who knows my palate (likes and dislikes), I can take them at their word.

[Volusianator]

Originally Posted by pnoon

Spot on.
The only exception/caveat to that is that if a member I know and have smoked with who knows my palate (likes and dislikes), I can take them at their word.

I couldn't agree more!

[oooo35980]

Originally Posted by Volusianator

Here alone lies the issue with internet "suggestions/opinions" (an honest review is different, and I'll get to that in a bit), If I were to ask a forum, "what do you guys think of cigar XXXXX? I'll get responses from "dude, they're awesome", "my all time favorite, you can't go wrong", "dog rocket", "these suck, just ask anyone", "read the threads man, nobody likes these." Which one of those replies asked me, "what do you like in a cigar", "do you prefer mild, medium, strong, spicey, more smooth & creamy", "have you found cigars from a particular country to be more favorable to you", "what flavors do you typically find you enjoy most"? Until some of those are asked, an opinion is no better than reading the companies promotional material itself, regardless if the suggestion/opinion was good or bad. So telling a guy, "go ahead try some more, the answer will become evident" is just a way of saying, "hey, go waste more money on these because you're never gonna like them" How does he know what the OP's preferences are? Same as just blindly following a members opinion here unless there's information on the cigar to back it up as I mentioned above. If someone is just saying, "hey, you'll love it" or "hey, you'll hate it", it means nothing.

By this logic you shouldn't ask or answer any questions about cigars because the people who answer your questions don't know you. I disagree, Forums are a great way to guage cigars.

For example Gurkha, I've had 2, there are 100,000,000. I wasn't disgusted or impressed by either Gurkha I had, BUT I know that most people either find them mediocre and overpriced or downright hate them. It may be that if I tried a bunch of Gurkha I'd become the biggest Gurkha fanatic ever, but probably not, and I won't be spending money trying to find out.