NHL '10 - '11 Thread - Page 49

357 · 01-24-2011, 08:37 AM

I know in some pro leagues when you put in a waiver claim the team that signed him is compensated in some way. Will the Isles have to give the Wings something for snagging Nabokov?

chand · 01-24-2011, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 357

I know in some pro leagues when you put in a waiver claim the team that signed him is compensated in some way. Will the Isles have to give the Wings something for snagging Nabokov?

As far as I know Detroit would have him free and clear if he is put an waivers. OTH I hear that SJ also put a claim on him when the Isles did. So that may complicate the issues.

357 · 01-24-2011, 09:53 AM

I know, but what I meant is he was signed by the Wings and someone else claimed him. In some leagues that means the team who claimed him owes the Wings some sort of compensation. Does the NHL do this? If so what, if any, criteria are used to determine that compensation?

Ahbroody · 01-24-2011, 10:00 AM

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Here you go, Mike. I cut and pasted it in case you aren't an ESPN Insider subscriber.

Man my buddy is a trainer. LoL guess he is not in the loop.

wont be listening to his ass anymore.

I cant believe they would bring him in after everything. I guess at that price they figure wtf?
I know they are big on staylock, but hes still young I guess.

I cant seem to find any major source who will go on record saying the Sharks did that. Not even Ecklunds site, but I guess its possible.

chand · 01-24-2011, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 357

I know, but what I meant is he was signed by the Wings and someone else claimed him. In some leagues that means the team who claimed him owes the Wings some sort of compensation. Does the NHL do this? If so what, if any, criteria are used to determine that compensation?

Only if he was on their roster as a restricted free agent and was signed to an offer sheet. The wing will either get nothing [Isles keep Nabby] or they will get Nabby if the isles waive him or attempt a trade with a a 3rd team. There is no compensation due.

Ahbroody · 01-24-2011, 10:26 AM

Maybe maybe not.
I thought I just read that all the teams who put in a claim would have first rights if he is waived. The team lowest in the standings would have first right. Given Toms post Sharks would get him before wings. Found another rumor that said Hawks put in claim. There are no main sources going on record so its kind of hard to know who put in claims.

I kind of wonder if both Sharks and Hawks alleged claims have as much to do with hurting the Wings as getting Nabokov. I still want to believe the trainer I know who said they wouldnt want him in the playoffs so why would we have him play the season.

Talk about one huge cluster fock

357 · 01-24-2011, 10:34 AM

Interesting. I know in the NFL the Lions started using their low standings to their favor and grabbing guys (off the waiver wire) they know were wanted; just so they could trade them for 7th round pics. It ended up netting them a few decent players in the long run.

Wonder if any of the waiver snipers are willing to trade Nabby elsewhere.

Ahbroody · 01-24-2011, 10:44 AM

See Mike that might be it and makes more sense to me then them playing Nabby. There is some bad blood.

Sharks are in desperate need of Dmen its no secret. If they got him they may be able to grab one solid dman in exchange. Who knows though with the trainwrecks in the pipes and on D either is possible. Trade bait does make sense though. That would also explain why the Isles got him first. Dont get any lower.

chand · 01-24-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 357

I know, but what I meant is he was signed by the Wings and someone else claimed him. In some leagues that means the team who claimed him owes the Wings some sort of compensation. Does the NHL do this? If so what, if any, criteria are used to determine that compensation?

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Originally Posted by Ahbroody

Maybe maybe not.
I thought I just read that all the teams who put in a claim would have first rights if he is waived. The team lowest in the standings would have first right. Given Toms post Sharks would get him before wings. Found another rumor that said Hawks put in claim. There are no main sources going on record so its kind of hard to know who put in claims.

I kind of wonder if both Sharks and Hawks alleged claims have as much to do with hurting the Wings as getting Nabokov. I still want to believe the trainer I know who said they wouldnt want him in the playoffs so why would we have him play the season.

Talk about one huge cluster fock

I was under the impression that only applied if he was put on waivers before a trade and that if he was simply waived then it was a free for all with no restrictions.

The situation seem highly convoluted so I could be wrong in my assessment. There is also speculation that the Isles could make an appeal to the League to shelf the contract until 20011-12, keeping Nabby from being a free agent this summer and forcing him to play a year on the island. Sounds like a prison sentence to me.

icehog3 · 01-24-2011, 11:30 AM

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Thrashers are falling apart. It is getting ridiculous.

They were playing a bit above their talent level, at least on paper. They will have to right the ship soon to hang onto a playoff spot.

The whole Nabokov thing is interesting to watch. From a selfish standpoint, I would like to see him sign with the Sharks, and then have the Hawks meet the Sharks again in the playoffs.

357 · 01-24-2011, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

They were playing a bit above their talent level, at least on paper. They will have to right the ship soon to hang onto a playoff spot.

The whole Nabokov thing is interesting to watch. From a selfish standpoint, I would like to see him sign with the Sharks, and then have the Hawks meet the Sharks again in the playoffs.

Tom!

I just wanted him to pickup some of the games Osgood is going to miss. I don't want Howard to have to start 75 regular season games and then have nothing left by playoff time. (pardon the exaggeration).

Ahbroody · 01-24-2011, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

They were playing a bit above their talent level, at least on paper. They will have to right the ship soon to hang onto a playoff spot.

The whole Nabokov thing is interesting to watch. From a selfish standpoint, I would like to see him sign with the Sharks, and then have the Hawks meet the Sharks again in the playoffs.

Provided both teams make it. Thanks for the knife in ghe back Tom. Always got to twist it a little.

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I don't want Howard to have to start 75 regular season games and then have nothing left by playoff time.

I do. Maybe father time will be back again this year, although the Wings are only slowing down a little.

icehog3 · 01-24-2011, 03:06 PM

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Provided both teams make it. Thanks for the knife in ghe back Tom. Always got to twist it a little.

I do. Maybe father time will be back again this year, although the Wings are only slowing down a little.

Sorry, Mike, I need to be more understanding this season with our teams on the bubble instead of 1-2.

Father Time? Lidstrom leads the freaking NHL in D-man scoring!

01-25-2011, 07:58 PM

Good game in Chicago so far. Hawks came out ready to go that's for sure.

01-25-2011, 08:02 PM

Damn Crawford has made some big saves!

01-25-2011, 11:45 PM

Hawks.....come on......

Ahbroody · 01-26-2011, 12:59 AM

Man the wild are hot right now. The Sharks got them, but that game was close.
They dont come right at you like say Det or Van. They are just always they to get you on a transition if you screw up. They just keep it close and get you when you make a mistake.

icehog3 · 01-26-2011, 02:33 AM

yourchoice · 01-26-2011, 08:52 AM

Flyers win their 1,000 home game last night with an impressive showing against the Canadiens.

First expansion era team to reach this milestone.

A weird caveat to this feat....three of their "home" wins were in Quebec City!

Ahbroody · 01-26-2011, 10:26 AM

How does that work joel?
Congrats to the flyer's and their fans. They are big strong nasty and can score. Pronger may be back to the finals this year and get to lift the cup.

01-24-2011, 08:37 AM	#961
357 Will herf for food Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Home is where I park it Posts: 4,075 Trading: (9)	Re: NHL '10 - '11 Thread I know in some pro leagues when you put in a waiver claim the team that signed him is compensated in some way. Will the Isles have to give the Wings something for snagging Nabokov? __________________ “Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar;” Mark Twain

01-24-2011, 09:53 AM	#963
357 Will herf for food Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Home is where I park it Posts: 4,075 Trading: (9)	Re: NHL '10 - '11 Thread I know, but what I meant is he was signed by the Wings and someone else claimed him. In some leagues that means the team who claimed him owes the Wings some sort of compensation. Does the NHL do this? If so what, if any, criteria are used to determine that compensation? __________________ “Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar;” Mark Twain

01-24-2011, 10:26 AM	#966
Ahbroody Daddy x 4 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: San Jose Posts: 3,708 Trading: (53)	Re: NHL '10 - '11 Thread Maybe maybe not. I thought I just read that all the teams who put in a claim would have first rights if he is waived. The team lowest in the standings would have first right. Given Toms post Sharks would get him before wings. Found another rumor that said Hawks put in claim. There are no main sources going on record so its kind of hard to know who put in claims. I kind of wonder if both Sharks and Hawks alleged claims have as much to do with hurting the Wings as getting Nabokov. I still want to believe the trainer I know who said they wouldnt want him in the playoffs so why would we have him play the season. Talk about one huge cluster fock

01-24-2011, 10:34 AM	#967
357 Will herf for food Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Home is where I park it Posts: 4,075 Trading: (9)	Re: NHL '10 - '11 Thread Interesting. I know in the NFL the Lions started using their low standings to their favor and grabbing guys (off the waiver wire) they know were wanted; just so they could trade them for 7th round pics. It ended up netting them a few decent players in the long run. Wonder if any of the waiver snipers are willing to trade Nabby elsewhere. __________________ “Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar;” Mark Twain

01-24-2011, 10:44 AM	#968
Ahbroody Daddy x 4 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: San Jose Posts: 3,708 Trading: (53)	Re: NHL '10 - '11 Thread See Mike that might be it and makes more sense to me then them playing Nabby. There is some bad blood. Sharks are in desperate need of Dmen its no secret. If they got him they may be able to grab one solid dman in exchange. Who knows though with the trainwrecks in the pipes and on D either is possible. Trade bait does make sense though. That would also explain why the Isles got him first. Dont get any lower.

01-25-2011, 07:58 PM	#974
ChicagoWhiteSox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: NHL '10 - '11 Thread Good game in Chicago so far. Hawks came out ready to go that's for sure.

01-25-2011, 08:02 PM	#975
ChicagoWhiteSox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: NHL '10 - '11 Thread Damn Crawford has made some big saves!

01-25-2011, 11:45 PM	#976
GHC_Hambone Guest Posts: n/a	Re: NHL '10 - '11 Thread Hawks.....come on......

01-26-2011, 12:59 AM	#977
Ahbroody Daddy x 4 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: San Jose Posts: 3,708 Trading: (53)	Re: NHL '10 - '11 Thread Man the wild are hot right now. The Sharks got them, but that game was close. They dont come right at you like say Det or Van. They are just always they to get you on a transition if you screw up. They just keep it close and get you when you make a mistake.

01-26-2011, 02:33 AM	#978
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,305 Trading: (60)	Re: NHL '10 - '11 Thread __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

01-26-2011, 08:52 AM	#979
yourchoice Down the stretch Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joel Location: South Jersey Posts: 4,091 Trading: (36)	Re: NHL '10 - '11 Thread Flyers win their 1,000 home game last night with an impressive showing against the Canadiens. First expansion era team to reach this milestone. A weird caveat to this feat....three of their "home" wins were in Quebec City!

01-26-2011, 10:26 AM	#980
Ahbroody Daddy x 4 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: San Jose Posts: 3,708 Trading: (53)	Re: NHL '10 - '11 Thread How does that work joel? Congrats to the flyer's and their fans. They are big strong nasty and can score. Pronger may be back to the finals this year and get to lift the cup.