pistol or cigars? - Page 4

Bill86 · 01-02-2011, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjing

After shooting one today, I'd go with a HK P30

I was looking into those, didn't like that they didn't have a safety. They do have the HK P30s but it's got dual ambidextrous safeties and such. I dunno I'm going to look at them in person and a regular HK USP Compact 40 cal Wednesday.

floydpink · 01-02-2011, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ggainey

Another one is it's perfectly ok to carry in Church in Florida and not so in Georgia.

I forget the state they were talking about, and think it was Mass, but last night on talk radio they were talking about trying to overturn a law that says you can point a gun at a home invader but NOT shoot.

Thank goodness Florida doesn't have dumb laws like that.

Very good advice to be sure you know the particular state's laws where you plan to carry as "I didn't know" won't work very well in court.

Oh and here is the complete list of the state you mentioned's recipricocity laws state by state:

http://www.ago.alabama.gov/issue/pistol.htm

Ranger_B · 01-02-2011, 07:26 PM

Devan as AD you will qualify for a resident CCW. Just keep in mind that while AD you have to worry about transport on and off base. If you live on post it is very difficult to carry.

Devanmc · 01-02-2011, 08:07 PM

yeah it is not aloud here. but i can work on getting the CCL on my way out. just easier that way. it takes time to get it. so ill save for the weapon in the mean time

replicant_argent · 01-02-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ranger_B

Devan as AD you will qualify for a resident CCW. Just keep in mind that while AD you have to worry about transport on and off base. If you live on post it is very difficult to carry.

One of the most ridiculous things ever.

alley00p · 01-02-2011, 08:48 PM

Devan, in Michigan, any State's CWP is recognized. But as far as I know, an out-of-state permit isn't transferable for a Michigan CWP, so you'll be required to pass all of the requirements here. But I don't see that you should have any trouble in getting one here in Michigan, once you're living here.

When you get here, there are a couple of indoor ranges that rent different styles and models of pistols so you can try them out. A few of my friends have gone that route while trying to decide what to buy.

BTW, my carry gun is a Springfield Armory V-10 Ultra compact .45. I also carry a S&W 915 at times. My competition pistol is a ParaOrdance P14.45. I've seen pretty much every make and model of semi-auto, but I'm partial to John Browning's 1911 design.

Charlie

Superbad · 01-02-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by replicant_argent

One of the most ridiculous things ever.

You should see all the crap you need to go through to even work around a weapons system on my base.

Ranger_B · 01-02-2011, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by replicant_argent

One of the most ridiculous things ever.

You dont know the half of it. Needless to say one could argue that people have died because of the restriction. I wont go any deeper but it is a pile of garbage!

rizzle · 01-03-2011, 10:40 AM

Pistol gets my vote.

captain53 · 01-03-2011, 11:27 AM

Sig P-229 .357 Sig is my favorite but another strong consideration in my book would be the H&K USP 45 - Only with High Capacity Magazines if legal in your state.

I have many pistols and luv the .357 Sig Caliber. For a first pistol owner I don't recommend a Glock but rather something with all the bells and whistles including a positive safety.

You might want to consider a 1911 - 45 ACP if in your budget, not a high capacity but sure a great piece to learn to shoot pistols with and will last you forever.

Nothing wrong with the .40 caliber though I am not a fan of the 9mm unless looking for something small and high capacity.

icehog3 · 01-03-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rizzle

Pistol gets my vote.

Thanks, Man.

guitar4001 · 01-03-2011, 12:17 PM

derringers are pretty handy.

gettysburgfreak · 01-03-2011, 12:50 PM

Just my .2 but I would look into the compact HK P2000. We use the full size at work and I really like it. Wasn't crazy with it at first but after nearly 4k rounds through it and not a single hick up I love it.

01-03-2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruins Fan

Colt 1911 a tried and true proven stopper

I will never part with my Colt 1911 collection.

Bill86 · 01-03-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by captain53

Sig P-229 .357 Sig is my favorite but another strong consideration in my book would be the H&K USP 45 - Only with High Capacity Magazines if legal in your state.

I have many pistols and luv the .357 Sig Caliber. For a first pistol owner I don't recommend a Glock but rather something with all the bells and whistles including a positive safety.

You might want to consider a 1911 - 45 ACP if in your budget, not a high capacity but sure a great piece to learn to shoot pistols with and will last you forever.

Nothing wrong with the .40 caliber though I am not a fan of the 9mm unless looking for something small and high capacity.

As much as I love 1911's they are heavy as piss to carry. Not to mention they only get 8 rounds. You can trade up with a lighter weight and gain rounds in a polymer gun. They just don't make good carry guns if you're a small(er) guy. Not easy to conceal.

bigswol2 · 01-03-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

sig sauer .45.

church!

Drez · 01-03-2011, 02:49 PM

get a glock or a spring field xd series. i own both and carry both for work and could not be happier.

357 · 01-03-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

As much as I love 1911's they are heavy as piss to carry. Not to mention they only get 8 rounds. You can trade up with a lighter weight and gain rounds in a polymer gun. They just don't make good carry guns if you're a small(er) guy. Not easy to conceal.

I politely disagree. My 1911 Kimber has an 8 rd mag, but it is carried cocked & locked by design. So, I get 9 rds of .45ACP in a weapon that is only about 1.25 inches wide. For that reason 1911s fit very nicely in "Inside the Waistband" holsters (IWB). The shorter barrel models are even more convenient. Standard is 5 inch, Pro/Officer model is 4.25 inches, and the compact or carry models are 3.5 inches. The frames are offered in blued steel, stainless steel, aluminum alloy, and even polymer. The Kimber compact models are aluminum alloy frame with stainless slides and they weigh in at 25 ounces. The standard and pro sizes have a full size grip and therefore a full 8 rd mag. The compact are usually 1 rd lower capacity.

01-03-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

As much as I love 1911's they are heavy as piss to carry. Not to mention they only get 8 rounds. You can trade up with a lighter weight and gain rounds in a polymer gun. They just don't make good carry guns if you're a small(er) guy. Not easy to conceal.

Who ever said they're difficult for a small guy to conceal? They're quite easy as they are thinner than most polymer pistols.

With a good IWB holster a 1911 can disappear under a t-shirt:

357 · 01-03-2011, 03:03 PM

That is very similar to my IWB. I carry the 5 inch full size model. I can carry with shorts and a T-shirt without people noticing.

01-02-2011, 07:26 PM	#63
Ranger_B Have My Own Room Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Frank Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,321 Trading: (31)	Re: pistol or cigars? Devan as AD you will qualify for a resident CCW. Just keep in mind that while AD you have to worry about transport on and off base. If you live on post it is very difficult to carry.

01-02-2011, 08:07 PM	#64
Devanmc Have My Own Room Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: Devan Location: The Zoo Posts: 1,971 Trading: (40)	Re: pistol or cigars? yeah it is not aloud here. but i can work on getting the CCL on my way out. just easier that way. it takes time to get it. so ill save for the weapon in the mean time __________________ I spent a lot of my money on booze, cigars, birds and fast cars, the rest I just squandered. -George Best

01-02-2011, 08:48 PM	#66
alley00p Adopted MassHole Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Charlie Location: HOCKEYTOWN! Posts: 1,770 Trading: (41)	Re: pistol or cigars? Devan, in Michigan, any State's CWP is recognized. But as far as I know, an out-of-state permit isn't transferable for a Michigan CWP, so you'll be required to pass all of the requirements here. But I don't see that you should have any trouble in getting one here in Michigan, once you're living here. When you get here, there are a couple of indoor ranges that rent different styles and models of pistols so you can try them out. A few of my friends have gone that route while trying to decide what to buy. BTW, my carry gun is a Springfield Armory V-10 Ultra compact .45. I also carry a S&W 915 at times. My competition pistol is a ParaOrdance P14.45. I've seen pretty much every make and model of semi-auto, but I'm partial to John Browning's 1911 design. Charlie __________________ Alley00p - I may be a FOG, but I'm still trying to dance!! Just don't trip over my cane!

01-03-2011, 10:40 AM	#69
rizzle Order Restored Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: st pete, fl Posts: 2,679 Trading: (23)	Re: pistol or cigars? Pistol gets my vote.

01-03-2011, 11:27 AM	#70
captain53 Have My Own Room Join Date: Jul 2009 First Name: Dave Location: Lake of the Ozarks & Austin, TX Posts: 1,333 Trading: (3)	Re: pistol or cigars? Sig P-229 .357 Sig is my favorite but another strong consideration in my book would be the H&K USP 45 - Only with High Capacity Magazines if legal in your state. I have many pistols and luv the .357 Sig Caliber. For a first pistol owner I don't recommend a Glock but rather something with all the bells and whistles including a positive safety. You might want to consider a 1911 - 45 ACP if in your budget, not a high capacity but sure a great piece to learn to shoot pistols with and will last you forever. Nothing wrong with the .40 caliber though I am not a fan of the 9mm unless looking for something small and high capacity.

01-03-2011, 12:17 PM	#72
guitar4001 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2010 First Name: Paul Location: Between Goldsboro, NC and Africa Posts: 359 Trading: (0)	Re: pistol or cigars? derringers are pretty handy.

01-03-2011, 12:50 PM	#73
gettysburgfreak Patriot Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Mitten Posts: 1,442 Trading: (2)	Re: pistol or cigars? Just my .2 but I would look into the compact HK P2000. We use the full size at work and I really like it. Wasn't crazy with it at first but after nearly 4k rounds through it and not a single hick up I love it. __________________ Author ofeath, Disease, and Life at War: The Civil War Letters of Surgeon James D. Benton, 111th and 98th New York Infantry Regiments, 1862-1865.

01-03-2011, 02:49 PM	#77
Drez The Warden Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Frank Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,768 Trading: (35)	Re: pistol or cigars? get a glock or a spring field xd series. i own both and carry both for work and could not be happier.

01-03-2011, 03:03 PM	#80
357 Will herf for food Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Home is where I park it Posts: 4,075 Trading: (9)	Re: pistol or cigars? That is very similar to my IWB. I carry the 5 inch full size model. I can carry with shorts and a T-shirt without people noticing. __________________ “Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar;” Mark Twain