Starting to like wine...the Red version

[rlmedic]

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

For the third time (looking back at the thread):

Joel Gott NAPA Cab

Stop playing games.

Sorry CA Cab...

my god you are a child

[hornitosmonster]

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

Clubs are LICENSED retail outlets with no B&M presence. The keyword, for those still not listening, is LICENSED, same as your corner wine shop.

This is getting tiring. With so many doubters and experts, I did recommend someone start a PIF. I meant it. Let me know how far you guys get, that is ALL I AM ASKING.

We'll discuss results at a later date. I'll just give a hint, use cheapest wine available so that you do not lose much in the process.

PS. Ask Bobarian what company he works for, then ask yourself why such a company is in business if wine is easy to ship.

PPS. Start the PIF.

FYI, we have done a PIF with cigars and hard liquor (old site).

[T.G]

Originally Posted by hornitosmonster

FYI, we have done a PIF with cigars and hard liquor (old site).

Did anyone actually tell the carrier truthfully what was in the box?

[TheRiddick]

Originally Posted by rlmedic

Sorry CA Cab...

my god you are a child

Do you even read your own posts? Or rather, BOASTS?

Whatever...

[Mugen910]

Originally Posted by rlmedic

Sorry CA Cab...

my god you are a child

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

Do you even read your own posts? Or rather, BOASTS?

Whatever...

Oh yeah? Your momma is so fat.....



OK stop...either cut the crap or take it to PM because this is not benefiting ME! A bit of ribbing is fine here and there as long as people understand it's all in good humor.

Can we start a Newbie Must Try list of wines? What would you suggest in making such a list?

Oh and why do I need a special glass for wine or port? I noticed that drinking 10yr old taylorfladgate (sp) out of a glass cup (moses is going to kill me) did not take nearly as good as when it was consumed out of a special glass.

Whatever you do, DON'T use Styrofoam!

[Mugen910]

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman

Whatever you do, DON'T use Styrofoam!

Went to visit a friend in Pitts a few months back and he asked what I wanted to drink since he does not stock anything but beer. I told him port and forgot to bring the glass ware.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by Mugen910

Can we start a Newbie Must Try list of wines? What would you suggest in making such a list?

Oh and why do I need a special glass for wine or port? I noticed that drinking 10yr old taylorfladgate (sp) out of a glass cup (moses is going to kill me) did not take nearly as good as when it was consumed out of a special glass.

A list of "Newbie Must Try list of wines" is a nice idea. I would recommend narrowing/defining what wines can be on the list or why they are in the list. Major definers would be price range, food friendly, cigar friendly... Beyond “I liked it” should be stated as you are nominating it for some reason. Not everyone wants to spend $50 on a bottle and some have no interest in drinking $5 bottles of wine.

As for the glass, every wine has its own unique properties that a proper wine glass will exaggerate or compliment. Your description and result is correct and you astute to notice the difference! Very few restaurants have the correct port glass. Most serve them in a thimble like child's glass. If you go to such a place, ask for your port in a white wine glass. Many times they just pour you even more! Especially if it's a busy nite club kind of place.

[Mugen910]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Your description and result is correct and you astute to notice the difference!

The only thing I noticed was that it drank sweeter and almost thicker. I went home and purchased the same bottle and drank from a thimble like child's glass and that was very different. I'll have to invest in real port glassware since I seem to be take a glass or two every few days after work.

[bobarian]

Originally Posted by rlmedic

Sorry CA Cab...

And you think there is no difference here in this "minor" mistake? A CA Cab sells for about a $3-12 a bottle. A Napa Cab $50 and up for a decent winemaker. There is no reason to even have a Napa and a CA cab in the same room. A CA cab has no hints of terroir, they may be decent wines but they are blended to take out the distinctness of region or terroir.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by Mugen910

have to invest in real port glassware since I seem to be take a glass or two every few days after work.

Reidel is the most popular fine port glass in USA. Libby makes a nice small red wine glass that looks just like the Reidel at just a couple of dollars. The main difference is the Libby has a rolled edge and Reidel is cut, but they are similar profiles which is the most important factor.

Originally Posted by bobarian

And you think there is no difference here in this "minor" mistake? A CA Cab sells for about a $3-12 a bottle. A Napa Cab $50 and up for a decent winemaker. There is no reason to even have a Napa and a CA cab in the same room. A CA cab has no hints of terroir, they may be decent wines but they are blended to take out the distinctness of region or terroir.

...says the Napa resident.

[Mugen910]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Reidel is the most popular fine port glass in USA. Libby makes a nice small red wine glass that looks just like the Reidel at just a couple of dollars. The main difference is the Libby has a rolled edge and Reidel is cut, but they are similar profiles which is the most important factor.

Does a rolled edge make a difference in any way?

btw thanks for the info.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by Mugen910

Does a rolled edge make a difference in any way?

btw thanks for the info.

Yes. I suggest that everyone pour the same wine into different glasses and judge for yourself.

If you ever questioned whether a good glass can make wine taste better. I'll bet you on that one all day long.

The nose will be dramatically different, as will the taste and delivery. A port glass deliver the perfect amount each sip. As does a Red Burgundy or Chablis glass does.

The whole experience and pleasure of wine is dramatically effected by stemware.

[bobarian]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Yes. I suggest that everyone pour the same wine into different glasses and judge for yourself.

If you ever questioned whether a good glass can make wine taste better. I'll bet you on that one all day long.

The nose will be dramatically different, as will the taste and delivery. A port glass deliver the perfect amount each sip. As does a Red Burgundy or Chablis glass does.

The whole experience and pleasure of wine is dramatically effected by stemware.

Moses is wise. The shape and construction of the glass will add to the experience. The actual chemical qualities of the glass seems to be less important. Both Crate and Barrell and Pier 1 Imports have several lines of glasses in different price ranges.

[Mugen910]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

The whole experience and pleasure of wine is dramatically effected by stemware.

Originally Posted by bobarian

The shape and construction of the glass will add to the experience.

Don't ever invite me over or I'll accidentally take home your wine/port glassware

[kgoings]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

A list of "Newbie Must Try list of wines" is a nice idea. I would recommend narrowing/defining what wines can be on the list or why they are in the list. Major definers would be price range, food friendly, cigar friendly... Beyond “I liked it” should be stated as you are nominating it for some reason. Not everyone wants to spend $50 on a bottle and some have no interest in drinking $5 bottles of wine.

As for the glass, every wine has its own unique properties that a proper wine glass will exaggerate or compliment. Your description and result is correct and you astute to notice the difference! Very few restaurants have the correct port glass. Most serve them in a thimble like child's glass. If you go to such a place, ask for your port in a white wine glass. Many times they just pour you even more! Especially if it's a busy nite club kind of place.

A Newbie Must try list would be cool. It would be nice to have it categorized by area of production, and then sub categories by price

[Mugen910]

Originally Posted by kgoings

A Newbie Must try list would be cool. It would be nice to have it categorized by area of production, and then sub categories by price

I vote RLMEDIC, THERIDDICK, MOSESBOTBOL to commission such a list and they must work together

Hey Kirk,

Another that you might like to give a try that is readily available and very reasonable is the Torres Gran Coronas Cabernet Sauvignon. It is a reasonable priced wine (you should be able to find it at around the 15 to 17 dollar mark. It is an 85% Cab and 15% Tempranillo. It is from Spain if I recall, it is a very easy drinking wine that goes super with bbq

[kgoings]

Originally Posted by SilverFox

Hey Kirk,

Another that you might like to give a try that is readily available and very reasonable is the Torres Gran Coronas Cabernet Sauvignon. It is a reasonable priced wine (you should be able to find it at around the 15 to 17 dollar mark. It is an 85% Cab and 15% Tempranillo. It is from Spain if I recall, it is a very easy drinking wine that goes super with bbq

Thanks!