New England Patriots - Page 4

shilala · 01-22-2015, 06:26 AM

8zeros · 01-22-2015, 06:58 AM

Since they switched back to fully inflated balls at halftime it seems the Pats handicapped themselves in the first half.
I wonder how many of the players are wearing special braces or other appliances that enhance their performance. Everyone does anything they think they can get away with. I grew up in the Drugged Up Players years when they used every steroid and stimulant and pain killer they could imagine. It was fair, I guess, cuz they were all doing it.

icehog3 · 01-22-2015, 10:53 PM

I miss Jack Tatum.

mosesbotbol · 01-23-2015, 07:10 AM

NFL's takeaway should be to supply the game day balls with no QB or Kicker preference. Start off with new footballs at beginning of each season.

Each stadium has a NFL officials only locked container and those the only ball used for the game. Each one has a serial numbers on them.

Subvet642 · 01-23-2015, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

NFL's takeaway should be to supply the game day balls with no QB or Kicker preference. Start off with new footballs at beginning of each season.

Each stadium has a NFL officials only locked container and those the only ball used for the game. Each one has a serial numbers on them.

+1

It could also benefit the collectables market to have verifiable serial numbers that could be connected to specific games and plays. A whole new product from the NFL.

stearns · 01-23-2015, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Subvet642

+1

It could also benefit the collectables market to have verifiable serial numbers that could be connected to specific games and plays. A whole new product from the NFL.

I think that would be the selling point for them, the whole consistency thing would just be the side effect

Subvet642 · 01-23-2015, 07:50 AM

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I think that would be the selling point for them, the whole consistency thing would just be the side effect

That's how self interest produces positive results. Capitalism 101

stearns · 01-23-2015, 07:57 AM

icehog3 · 01-23-2015, 08:15 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo

AdamJoshua · 01-23-2015, 08:54 AM

I wish they would just hurry up and fire the guy that video tapes the practices so we can move on from this.

That being said, hell when the WS was in CO they had a special humidor to regulate the baseballs so they didn't dry out and become harder, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for a major sport to regulate the balls they play with ... phrasing!

Subvet642 · 01-23-2015, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamJoshua

I wish they would just hurry up and fire the guy that video tapes the practices so we can move on from this.

That being said, hell when the WS was in CO they had a special humidor to regulate the baseballs so they didn't dry out and become harder, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for a major sport to regulate the balls they play with ... phrasing!

I was commenting about government regulation, not self regulation.

AdamJoshua · 01-23-2015, 09:41 PM

Yes that's what we need.

Subvet642 · 01-23-2015, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamJoshua

Yes that's what we need.

Oh, I wasn't advocating it.

AdamJoshua · 01-23-2015, 10:50 PM

I was just treading lightly and bowing out, you never know and didn't want to turn this into something... bad.

Subvet642 · 01-24-2015, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamJoshua

I was just treading lightly and bowing out, you never know and didn't want to turn this into something... bad.

mosesbotbol · 01-24-2015, 06:18 AM

There was one interesting hypothesis floated on the 98.5 (Masshole's know this station) where someone said the balls could've been filled with very hot air to pressure, measured by NFL and then when the temp drops (or normalizes), they are under inflated. In doing this, the Pats did not "break a rule" as they were filled to the correct temp and not deflated or altered before the game. The bladder and leather are thick enough where the refs would not know the air inside was heated...

dijit · 01-24-2015, 07:34 AM

Thats possible but very unlikely. To get pressure changes of what is being rumored the air temp would need to drop 100 degrees or more.

8zeros · 01-24-2015, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

There was one interesting hypothesis floated on the 98.5 (Masshole's know this station) where someone said the balls could've been filled with very hot air to pressure, measured by NFL and then when the temp drops (or normalizes), they are under inflated. In doing this, the Pats did not "break a rule" as they were filled to the correct temp and not deflated or altered before the game. The bladder and leather are thick enough where the refs would not know the air inside was heated...

A 10% pressure change would take a 10% temperature change or a 10% volume change. Or some combination.
P=V/T , T is *K (absolute)
Maybe the leather was dried out so that it stretched a bit as it rehumidified.

dijit · 01-24-2015, 08:02 AM

The ratio equations I found show .10% +/- for every 10% in degrees C.

dijit · 01-24-2015, 08:04 AM

I still dont think it affected the outcome of the game very much.

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8zeros What's this button do? Join Date: Dec 2013 First Name: Roger Location: Far from everything Posts: 268 Trading: (0)	Re: New England Patriots Since they switched back to fully inflated balls at halftime it seems the Pats handicapped themselves in the first half. I wonder how many of the players are wearing special braces or other appliances that enhance their performance. Everyone does anything they think they can get away with. I grew up in the Drugged Up Players years when they used every steroid and stimulant and pain killer they could imagine. It was fair, I guess, cuz they were all doing it. __________________

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AdamJoshua Article 4 Free Inhabitant Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: The Other Adam Location: Satellite Beach Posts: 14,787 Trading: (40)	Re: New England Patriots I wish they would just hurry up and fire the guy that video tapes the practices so we can move on from this. That being said, hell when the WS was in CO they had a special humidor to regulate the baseballs so they didn't dry out and become harder, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for a major sport to regulate the balls they play with ... phrasing!

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AdamJoshua Article 4 Free Inhabitant Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: The Other Adam Location: Satellite Beach Posts: 14,787 Trading: (40)	Re: New England Patriots I was just treading lightly and bowing out, you never know and didn't want to turn this into something... bad.

01-24-2015, 06:18 AM	#16
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: New England Patriots There was one interesting hypothesis floated on the 98.5 (Masshole's know this station) where someone said the balls could've been filled with very hot air to pressure, measured by NFL and then when the temp drops (or normalizes), they are under inflated. In doing this, the Pats did not "break a rule" as they were filled to the correct temp and not deflated or altered before the game. The bladder and leather are thick enough where the refs would not know the air inside was heated... __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

01-24-2015, 07:34 AM	#17
dijit Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2012 First Name: Mike Location: Brownsburg, Indiana Posts: 2,186 Trading: (48)	Re: New England Patriots Thats possible but very unlikely. To get pressure changes of what is being rumored the air temp would need to drop 100 degrees or more. __________________ Sporting goods raffle for a great cause. PM me for tickets.

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dijit Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2012 First Name: Mike Location: Brownsburg, Indiana Posts: 2,186 Trading: (48)	Re: New England Patriots The ratio equations I found show .10% +/- for every 10% in degrees C. __________________ Sporting goods raffle for a great cause. PM me for tickets.

01-24-2015, 08:04 AM	#20
dijit Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2012 First Name: Mike Location: Brownsburg, Indiana Posts: 2,186 Trading: (48)	Re: New England Patriots I still dont think it affected the outcome of the game very much. __________________ Sporting goods raffle for a great cause. PM me for tickets.