Rangers VS Tigers - Page 4

BigCat · 10-13-2011, 08:10 AM

Rangers are just looking like a better team right now. That lineup doesn't have a lot of holes in it and it's making all the difference. It sure would be nice to have a healthy Bosch and Young out there right now. Not that we're out of it just yet - I expect Verlander to win today and I like how Scherzer pitched in Texas. And of course anything can happen in a game 7, especially with Fister pitching. As a side note, I'm really sorry we gave up Furbush in the Fister deal. Having both of those guys on the team would have been awesome.

357 · 10-13-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasonw560

The Tigers need to keep the Rangers out of extra inning games. If they get there, end it in 10. If it goes to 11, hope Nelson Cruz isn't batting. If he is, intentionally walk him. Especially if the bases are loaded. Just sayin'. can't wait for game 5. Hope C J pitches better tomorrow.

True enough. Tigers should have won that with a sac-fly in the 8th. Napoli played it well, Cabrera did not.

GreekGodX · 10-13-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCat

Rangers are just looking like a better team right now. That lineup doesn't have a lot of holes in it and it's making all the difference. It sure would be nice to have a healthy Bosch and Young out there right now. Not that we're out of it just yet - I expect Verlander to win today and I like how Scherzer pitched in Texas. And of course anything can happen in a game 7, especially with Fister pitching. As a side note, I'm really sorry we gave up Furbush in the Fister deal. Having both of those guys on the team would have been awesome.

Agreed on all accounts.

I still have hope..

shark · 10-13-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet

A win won't matter jack to the economic woes of Detroit, and since I doubt their fans would "be nice" the net result may be a loss, once all the wildfires and looting is done.

No offense intended, but realistically that's the likely outcome.

icehog3 · 10-13-2011, 07:37 PM

We're goin' back to Texas.

GreekGodX · 10-13-2011, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

We're goin' back to Texas.

2 more games! Hope the Tigers saved some hits for while they are in Texas.

themoneycollector · 10-13-2011, 10:03 PM

Wilson should have been pulled much earlier in this game. I almost thought they were holding him in to concede the game to Detroit rather than wear out the BP, and instead get some rest and be ready to take the next game.

Either way, Texas still managed some runs and I think they will close out the series in Game 6.

BigCat · 10-13-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by themoneycollector

Wilson should have been pulled much earlier in this game. I almost thought they were holding him in to concede the game to Detroit rather than wear out the BP, and instead get some rest and be ready to take the next game.

Either way, Texas still managed some runs and I think they will close out the series in Game 6.

I definitely thought Washington managed like he had a 3-1 lead, which may have been the right way to do it. Both bullpens have been taxed and I can't blame him for thinking he has 2 home games to wrap this up. That said, anything can happen. I'm obviously hoping for the Tigers to take 2 more.

icehog3 · 10-14-2011, 12:32 AM

Tigers saved their bullpen too, Boys.

Hope Scherzer can pitch another one like the last one. If so, we may get to see Mr. Fister in Game 7.

357 · 10-14-2011, 02:16 PM

Max to face off against the "Dutch-Stache" in Game 6. I hope the lively bats (Tigers' bats) carry over and that Sherzer is sharp.

acruce · 10-14-2011, 05:44 PM

I think the Rangers will close out the series in Game 6. If Holland struggles at all I think you will see Washington put in Scott Feldman.I think Holland will be on a very short leash.

TonySmith · 10-15-2011, 08:59 PM

nine run 3rd inning...go Rangers

TonySmith · 10-15-2011, 09:30 PM

Detroit has played a good series and I hate to be premature but I think the Rangers have won. I think Detroit had better starting pitchers, but the Rangers had the better bats

Mattso3000 · 10-15-2011, 09:46 PM

12-4...Had a good year Tigers.

TonySmith · 10-15-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by acruce

I think the Rangers will close out the series in Game 6. If Holland struggles at all I think you will see Washington put in Scott Feldman.I think Holland will be on a very short leash.

Good prediction

RRocket · 10-15-2011, 11:30 PM

Terrible managing by Leyland in this one, IMO. This game was a "must win" game but Leyland managed it like a regular season game. It was apparent to everyone (but Leyland) that Max didn't have it very early on, and the game would get out of control in a hurry at a time when you needed to keep it close. How much more convincing did Leyland need? Was it Max's inability to throw strikes, particularly first pitch strikes and getting behind nearly every batter? Maybe it was the 4 walks? Whatever Leyland didn't see, it seemed like everyone else was clued in Max didn't have good stuff. I was hollering for him to be pulled in the 2nd and bring Porcello in. Remember, this is the season on the line here and not a time to hope that Max would somehow, someway figure it out and turn it around. As usual, there was no sense of urgency from Leyland at all. It's a fatal Leyland flaw that he's way too generous and way too loyal to certain players.

Instead, he leaves him in too long and sets an impossible table for Schlereth. Then he pulls Porcello too early. Porcello would have been good for 4-5 innings at least. Sure Porcello got jobbed by a missed call on second, and if not for that the Tigers get out of the inning with little damage. Even so, why pull Porcello? You pull Porcello early, and you have to go to a bullpen that's been shaky at best for long relief. Are you trying to tell me going to Perry then Penny (who hadn't even pitched PERIOD) was a better chance of winning then leaving Porcello in and then come back out for the next few innings? I knew if he pulled Porcello, they had nobody reliable for long relief and the game was more than likely over.

Leyland blew this game. His questionable pitching decisions not only took them out of the game, but allowed the Tigers to be embarrassed.

Jasonw560 · 10-15-2011, 11:32 PM

Great series. The Tigers were a worthy opponent. They have my respect, especially since they defeated the Evil Empire in the LDS.

Go Rangers!!!!

icehog3 · 10-15-2011, 11:41 PM

Congrats to the Rangers and their fans, they were the better team in this series and deserve to move on. Their offensive line-up is like Murderer's Row.

Much better than expected season for the Tigers, they gave us some excitement.

Regardless of Leyland's managing, the team (pitchers and defense) gave up 15 runs, so I think there is plenty of blame to go around. Jackson, Avila, and others left their bats in the regular season, and the pitching didn't live up to the regular season either, with the exception of Fister. Don't make Leyland the scapegoat for a team failure.

Jasonw560 · 10-15-2011, 11:48 PM

Didn't Porcello give up about 6 of those runs in the 3rd? I was cleaning birds at the time, so I didn't see it live. Keep him in 4-5 innings, could have been about 20-5. The bats were HOT this game.

I agree with Tom. Don't make Leyland the scapegoat. He managed the way he thought was best.

RRocket · 10-15-2011, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasonw560

Didn't Porcello give up about 6 of those runs in the 3rd? I was cleaning birds at the time, so I didn't see it live. Keep him in 4-5 innings, could have been about 20-5. The bats were HOT this game.

I agree with Tom. Don't make Leyland the scapegoat. He managed the way he thought was best.

Porcello only had 2 ER in the game. Would have had one if ump didn't blow call at 2nd.

10-13-2011, 08:10 AM	#61
BigCat My back is now unwatched. Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Colin Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 723 Trading: (5)	Re: Rangers VS Tigers Rangers are just looking like a better team right now. That lineup doesn't have a lot of holes in it and it's making all the difference. It sure would be nice to have a healthy Bosch and Young out there right now. Not that we're out of it just yet - I expect Verlander to win today and I like how Scherzer pitched in Texas. And of course anything can happen in a game 7, especially with Fister pitching. As a side note, I'm really sorry we gave up Furbush in the Fister deal. Having both of those guys on the team would have been awesome. __________________ "Now, I don't approve of dissipation, and I don't indulge in it either; but I haven't a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices." Mark Twain

10-13-2011, 07:37 PM	#65
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,304 Trading: (60)	Re: Rangers VS Tigers We're goin' back to Texas. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

10-13-2011, 10:03 PM	#67
themoneycollector Nicotiana Tabacum Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hill AFB, UT Posts: 1,258 Trading: (108)	Re: Rangers VS Tigers Wilson should have been pulled much earlier in this game. I almost thought they were holding him in to concede the game to Detroit rather than wear out the BP, and instead get some rest and be ready to take the next game. Either way, Texas still managed some runs and I think they will close out the series in Game 6.

10-14-2011, 12:32 AM	#69
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,304 Trading: (60)	Re: Rangers VS Tigers Tigers saved their bullpen too, Boys. Hope Scherzer can pitch another one like the last one. If so, we may get to see Mr. Fister in Game 7. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

10-14-2011, 02:16 PM	#70
357 Will herf for food Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Home is where I park it Posts: 4,075 Trading: (9)	Re: Rangers VS Tigers Max to face off against the "Dutch-Stache" in Game 6. I hope the lively bats (Tigers' bats) carry over and that Sherzer is sharp. __________________ “Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar;” Mark Twain

10-14-2011, 05:44 PM	#71
acruce Just killing Time Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: Venus TX Posts: 1,114 Trading: (1)	Re: Rangers VS Tigers I think the Rangers will close out the series in Game 6. If Holland struggles at all I think you will see Washington put in Scott Feldman.I think Holland will be on a very short leash. __________________ LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST~SMOKE AS MANY FINE CIGARS AS POSSIBLE ~ SMILE ~ IT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD!!

10-15-2011, 08:59 PM	#72
TonySmith Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 653 Trading: (1)	Re: Rangers VS Tigers nine run 3rd inning...go Rangers

10-15-2011, 09:30 PM	#73
TonySmith Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 653 Trading: (1)	Re: Rangers VS Tigers Detroit has played a good series and I hate to be premature but I think the Rangers have won. I think Detroit had better starting pitchers, but the Rangers had the better bats

10-15-2011, 09:46 PM	#74
Mattso3000 Will ninja for beer Join Date: Aug 2010 First Name: Matt Location: Burnsville, MN Posts: 2,842 Trading: (20)	Re: Rangers VS Tigers 12-4...Had a good year Tigers. __________________ Please Support the Troop Support Contest!

10-15-2011, 11:30 PM	#76
RRocket Still Watching My Back Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 153 Trading: (10)	Re: Rangers VS Tigers Terrible managing by Leyland in this one, IMO. This game was a "must win" game but Leyland managed it like a regular season game. It was apparent to everyone (but Leyland) that Max didn't have it very early on, and the game would get out of control in a hurry at a time when you needed to keep it close. How much more convincing did Leyland need? Was it Max's inability to throw strikes, particularly first pitch strikes and getting behind nearly every batter? Maybe it was the 4 walks? Whatever Leyland didn't see, it seemed like everyone else was clued in Max didn't have good stuff. I was hollering for him to be pulled in the 2nd and bring Porcello in. Remember, this is the season on the line here and not a time to hope that Max would somehow, someway figure it out and turn it around. As usual, there was no sense of urgency from Leyland at all. It's a fatal Leyland flaw that he's way too generous and way too loyal to certain players. Instead, he leaves him in too long and sets an impossible table for Schlereth. Then he pulls Porcello too early. Porcello would have been good for 4-5 innings at least. Sure Porcello got jobbed by a missed call on second, and if not for that the Tigers get out of the inning with little damage. Even so, why pull Porcello? You pull Porcello early, and you have to go to a bullpen that's been shaky at best for long relief. Are you trying to tell me going to Perry then Penny (who hadn't even pitched PERIOD) was a better chance of winning then leaving Porcello in and then come back out for the next few innings? I knew if he pulled Porcello, they had nobody reliable for long relief and the game was more than likely over. Leyland blew this game. His questionable pitching decisions not only took them out of the game, but allowed the Tigers to be embarrassed. Last edited by RRocket; 10-15-2011 at 11:38 PM.

10-15-2011, 11:32 PM	#77
Jasonw560 PhD from Sarcastic State Join Date: Jul 2011 First Name: Jason Location: Harlingen, TX Posts: 812 Trading: (0)	Re: Rangers VS Tigers Great series. The Tigers were a worthy opponent. They have my respect, especially since they defeated the Evil Empire in the LDS. Go Rangers!!!! __________________ ...And a woman is only a woman, But a good cigar is a smoke! -R. Kipling

10-15-2011, 11:41 PM	#78
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,304 Trading: (60)	Re: Rangers VS Tigers Congrats to the Rangers and their fans, they were the better team in this series and deserve to move on. Their offensive line-up is like Murderer's Row. Much better than expected season for the Tigers, they gave us some excitement. Regardless of Leyland's managing, the team (pitchers and defense) gave up 15 runs, so I think there is plenty of blame to go around. Jackson, Avila, and others left their bats in the regular season, and the pitching didn't live up to the regular season either, with the exception of Fister. Don't make Leyland the scapegoat for a team failure. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

10-15-2011, 11:48 PM	#79
Jasonw560 PhD from Sarcastic State Join Date: Jul 2011 First Name: Jason Location: Harlingen, TX Posts: 812 Trading: (0)	Re: Rangers VS Tigers Didn't Porcello give up about 6 of those runs in the 3rd? I was cleaning birds at the time, so I didn't see it live. Keep him in 4-5 innings, could have been about 20-5. The bats were HOT this game. I agree with Tom. Don't make Leyland the scapegoat. He managed the way he thought was best. __________________ ...And a woman is only a woman, But a good cigar is a smoke! -R. Kipling