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[NCRadioMan]

Originally Posted by Santesyu

I wonder is fedor up to the challenge people hail up as the best but..I wonder has the times changed for him atleast..

The times, they are not a changin'. He is still "The Last Emperor".

[Santesyu]

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

The times, they are not a changin'. He is still "The Last Emperor".

He won against brett I give him props for that.. but lets see what he can do if he signs over to the UFC then you have the right to put that terminator pic up if he keeps this up of course

My thoughts on Strikeforce:

Miller surprised me, but I haven't really seen him fight. He was quite game and came close to finishing Shields. Shields controlled the fight for the most part, but I never thought he had Miller in any danger.

Bigfoot had a great first round, what happened? I was thinking he must have got hurt, maybe broke a hand or something, or was he just gassed?

Gehard is pretty awesome. I would really like to see him in the UFC. Soku was the most well rounded that I've ever seen him.

Brett did better than most in the last 3 years, but Fedor still rules supreme. A smart fight who is fast and strong on his feet and great on the ground.

I would have liked to seen the women's fight, but I'll have to wait for the posted vids.

Overall, the televised card was very good, especially for being free.

[NCRadioMan]

Originally Posted by Santesyu

He won against brett I give him props for that.. but lets see what he can do if he signs over to the UFC then you have the right to put that terminator pic up if he keeps this up of course

Despite what Dana tries to tell everyone, the UFC is not THE premier mma company out there. The 185'ers are probably the best though. There is nobody in the UFC that could compete with Fedor right now. The hvwt. division in UFC is not that great. I am a huge fan of Lesnar but I think he would end up just like like Rogers. Mainly because of inexperience. Give Lesnar 5-7 more fights then it could be a contest. Fedor has defeated the best in the world time and time again in Pride when the hvwt. division was obviously stacked like no time in history.

Here is a list of who I think are the best heavy's in each company. I think it's pretty much a wash.

UFC heavy's:
Brock Lesnar
NOG (beaten by Fedor)
Junior Dos Santos
Shane Carwin
Cain Velasquez
Cheick Kongo

SF-M-1 Global heavy's:
Fedor Emelianenko
Brett Rogers
Alistair Overeem
Fabricio Werdum
Bobby Lashley
Daniel Cormier
Antonio Silva

When it comes to great mma promotions, I would put Dream and Sengoku above both UFC and SF.

Originally Posted by Santesyu

He won against brett I give him props for that.. but lets see what he can do if he signs over to the UFC then you have the right to put that terminator pic up if he keeps this up of course

Great fight, Ithought Fedor was in trouble in the 1st roung when he was against the cage. I missed the 1st 2 fights hopefully they will be a vid soon. As far as the UFC see goes theirs nobody their that gives Fedor a serious threat (not saying they don't have chance). I'm guessing that Fedor fights Overeem next in DREAM since they traded so many fighters to Strikforce and Silva fights Rodgers. Miller is a great fighter I couldn't really say he was beat by Shields. I thought he was going to choke him out at the end of one of the rounds. I wish they had the one 10 minute and one 5 minute round like DREAM. More fights finish that way.

Name one formidable opponent Fedor has beat in the past couple years. I believe if he fought Lesnar or even Mir he'd have serious problems he has not fought any highly ranked HW's in quite awhile. Rodgers was even doing good and he has virtually no experience.

Anderson Silva would annihilate him and he's a MW.

Are you serious? Andre and Tim were the #2 ranked Heavyweights in the world when he fought them. Barnet was #3 before that fell threw. Just because Fedor beats the top guys then they drop in the rankings doesn't he's not fighting the best. He beat Rodgers at his own game, the stand up was his only chance. I believe Rodgers has better stand up the Lesnar and so does Andre. Brock's best chance would be to pin the Combat Sambo champion to the ground. Not Happening! Mir is a fraud, his BJJ is a joke, his mouth is too big, and the only reason why he is in the UFC is because he is friends with Joe Silva the matchmaker. You must think Anderson Silva fights the best in Cote, Leittes and Griffin.

Originally Posted by ZJB

Name one formidable opponent Fedor has beat in the past couple years. I believe if he fought Lesnar or even Mir he'd have serious problems he has not fought any highly ranked HW's in quite awhile. Rodgers was even doing good and he has virtually no experience.

Anderson Silva would annihilate him and he's a MW.

I have been only reading here for a while, but this comment brought me out of my slumber at the keyboard.

I have to argue that you are blinded by the media. Mir and lesnar has not fought an opponent any better than Fedor has fought. In fact Mir lost to Ian Freeman, yea I don't know who he is either.

If you watch the fights and keep a non-media infused mind, You will see that the heavyweight division is week around the world. ****, the UF show had to recruit pro-football players with almost no fighting experience to fill the show. The fights have been week and a bunch football players with minimal talent. However, baby boy has some skills. he really earned some credit in his last fight in my eyes. That arm bar was Fedor like.

To wrap up, If you watch the other fighting contests Fedor competes in Sombo and another I forget the name of--but it is when you only submit guys with no strikes to the head allowed--you can still see that he rules those worlds as well as the mma world. Fedor is no Joke, and to quote NCradioman, still the emperor.

Originally Posted by Tw3nty

I have been only reading here for a while, but this comment brought me out of my slumber at the keyboard.

I have to argue that you are blinded by the media. Mir and lesnar has not fought an opponent any better than Fedor has fought. In fact Mir lost to Ian Freeman, yea I don't know who he is either.

If you watch the fights and keep a non-media infused mind, You will see that the heavyweight division is week around the world. ****, the UF show had to recruit pro-football players with almost no fighting experience to fill the show. The fights have been week and a bunch football players with minimal talent. However, baby boy has some skills. he really earned some credit in his last fight in my eyes. That arm bar was Fedor like.

To wrap up, If you watch the other fighting contests Fedor competes in Sombo and another I forget the name of--but it is when you only submit guys with no strikes to the head allowed--you can still see that he rules those worlds as well as the mma world. Fedor is no Joke, and to quote NCradioman, still the emperor.

They filled the show with x-football players because they did it in a short time frame for ratings to get Kimbo on TV. This season was supposed to be all the guys that are gonna be on season 11. How can you be #1 if you havn;t fought a true #2 in years.
A. Silva walks around between 220 and 230 BTW. Lesnar would out muscle him and hold him down and smash him. While Mir poses a significant threats on the ground and has much improved striking and won't have a size disadvantage as he did with Lesnar.

[zitro_joe]

Fedor has beat nog, but it was no easy fight for him, it was a long grueling three rounds. That's just the way Nog fights.

I thing fedor would definitely be a force in the UFC HW, II don't believe he would dominate in a sense. I mean Fujita almost knocked him out...Fujita????


Brett looking great tonight when looking at the previous Brett Rogers. His sportsmanship after the fight was just disgusting - what a punk. I don't he would beat anyone on the UFC roster he has up there. I am pretty sure that Alistair is on the juice. Fabrico was manhandled in the UFC Bobby LAshley is a threat, once his stand-up improves; Cormier and Bigfoot, not sold on them yet. Definitely top tier but not top ten. IF Carwin ever decides to be a full time fight; that guy will reign.

Originally Posted by zitro_joe

Fedor has beat nog, but it was no easy fight for him, it was a long grueling three rounds. That's just the way Nog fights.

I thing fedor would definitely be a force in the UFC HW, II don't believe he would dominate in a sense. I mean Fujita almost knocked him out...Fujita????


I am pretty sure that Alistair is on the juice. Fabrico was manhandled in the UFC Bobby LAshley is a threat, once his stand-up improves; Cormier and Bigfoot, not sold on them yet. Definitely top tier but not top ten. IF Carwin ever decides to be a full time fight; that guy will reign.

Fabricio manhandled? Didn't he only lose one fight? From a real placed punch on a shoot at that. Overeem on juice? I don't know how you decide that but I'm sure its something Lesnar's never done? Who's Carwin never heard of him?

[zitro_joe]

Originally Posted by Steelergar

Fabricio manhandled? Didn't he only lose one fight? From a real placed punch on a shoot at that. Overeem on juice? I don't know how you decide that but I'm sure its something Lesnar's never done? Who's Carwin never heard of him?

It is well known that Arlovski has a glass chin, and he beat Werdum. Werdum did some damage to Gabriel and vera, but Vera should not be a HW anyways. Yes, Junior dos Santos MANHANDLED Werdum.

Brett beat AA, jus nasty - glass chin. Brett Punches *hard* not takign that away from him. Fedor is #1 in my books, but I would like to see him in the UFC, against better compitition. When AA and Tim were the champs, the UFC HW division stunk, bad! I dont think Barnett will fight in the states for a long time. This was the second time he was popped for juice. Or he wont be fighting in CA or NV for awhile at least...

I admit it is just my opinion that Alistair is on the juice. Just find it curious why he has refused to fight in the states for two years (where he knows he would get tested). He always cites injuries, but he would be fighting a week later. A miraculous recovery.

I am pretty sure Lesner was on the juice at one point in time as well.

Never heard of Carwin...you're just being silly. It is just my opinion that he would be a great fighter if he trained full time. You make me laugh,

[NCRadioMan]

Originally Posted by ZJB

Anderson Silva would annihilate him and he's a MW.

The question was proposed to Silva not too long ago and he said Fedor would destroy him. I do think that would be a good match though. I miss the Grand Prix's of Pride.

Originally Posted by zitro_joe

Fedor has beat nog, but it was no easy fight for him, it was a long grueling three rounds. That's just the way Nog fights.

I thing fedor would definitely be a force in the UFC HW, II don't believe he would dominate in a sense. I mean Fujita almost knocked him out...Fujita????

He dominated NOG for three rounds for a uni decision. I watched that fight recently and NOG had nothing for him but did go the distance.

The key word you mentioned about Fujita is "almost".

And yes, Lesnar was on the juice when he was in the WWE. This was a false arrest but you could tell.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/lesnarmug1.html

[zitro_joe]

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

The question was proposed to Silva not too long ago and he said Fedor would destroy him. I do think that would be a good match though. I miss the Grand Prix's of Pride.





He dominated NOG for three rounds for a uni decision. I watched that fight recently and NOG had nothing for him but did go the distance.

The key word you mentioned about Fujita is "almost".

And yes, Lesnar was on the juice when he was in the WWE. This was a false arrest but you could tell.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/lesnarmug1.html

Agreed, but no matter how bad Nog is beaten up he is always a threat, did you see when Sapp dropped Nog on his head? That was crazy. However, nothing beats when Randlman suplex Fedor - that was nuts as well

[chippewastud79]

Originally Posted by zitro_joe

I am pretty sure Lesnar was on the juice at one point in time as well.

Lesnar is a freak. With the exception of his short stint in WWE, I am not sure when else he would have had time to be 'juicing'. And even right after WWE he went to the NFL camp, he would have to have gotten off of it quite a long time in advance before he went into camp to avoid a positive test. If you look at him in college, he was a freak then. I suppose he could certainly could be using now, but I doubt it.

Everybody has a glass chin its a pressure point on you body. The impact on your chin rattles your head in a way that causes a sensory overload resulting in a KO. Another one is the side of the head where Rodgers was hit. I guess he has a glass head.

[zitro_joe]

Originally Posted by Steelergar

Everybody has a glass chin its a pressure point on you body. The impact on your chin rattles yoyr head in a way that causes a sensory overload resulting in a KO. Another one is the side of the head where Rodgers was hit. I guess he has a glass head.

geez

Yes, everyone can get KO'd, everyone has a button, AA's is just easier to push.

[icehog3]

I have a friend who has a glass eye.

[floydpink]

Originally Posted by icehog3

I have a friend who has a glass eye.

I once had a girlfriend with a hairlip....

A dude with a wooden eye asked her to dance at our senior prom.

[LasciviousXXX]

I would LOVE to see Fedor in the UFC. The only fight I really see being exciting for him in Strikeforce is Overeem. Almost all others I believe wouldn't be a challenge.

Having said that I also only see 2 exciting fights for him in the UFC as well. Lesnar and Couture. I don't think Mir, Dos Santos, Velasquez or Carwin are on the same level. So really I think he needs to fight the champion in the UFC as I don't consider the rest to be "the best".

And Fedor's fight with Fujita was 6 years ago.

One thing I have to say for Fedor is even when it seems he's on the brink, he always comes back and dominates. Case in point, his match with Fujita where he got rocked and came back to submit him. And his match with Randleman where he got suplexed onto his neck and came back to submit him via Kimura. And his match w/ Arlovski where it appeared he was going to be outclassed and came back and K'd him TFO. Point being, even when it looks like Fedor might be in trouble.... he always comes back to dominate.