Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 - Page 31

BigFrank · 12-11-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910

my problem is I don't go to the gym more than 2-3x a week so when I go I feel that I have to do all upper body and assume jogging will help the lower body.

I currently follow a program that has a shortened 3 day a week version. Its a little more geared towards powerlifting, but i am sure with a little tweaking it can be set up for general lifting. Let me know if ya want some details.

BigFrank · 12-11-2008, 05:08 PM

Assistance work day.
I was only working out 3 days a week, but I felt like a total bum. So I bumped to 4 days a week. Thursday are more or less a borderline bullshit day. nothing superheavy mainly assistance work for bench. I do not bother to write down numbers or reps. Just kinda hit some weights, do a little HIT cardio then out of the gym. 45 minutes tops usually.

Standing Military Presses
DB laterals superset with hang cleans
HS shrugs super set with blackouts/skull crushers
kaz presses done with dumbbells
pull ups
hammer curls
suicide sprints

on a side note, I forgot to do neck work LOL.

icehog3 · 12-11-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank

on a side note, I forgot to do neck work LOL.

Don't forget next time, Frank....don't wanna get turkey neck!

BigFrank · 12-11-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Don't forget next time, Frank....don't wanna get turkey neck!

I think it would take a lot more than that to get a small neck.

Gotta get fitted for a suit for my brothers wedding. its my goal to make it a total pain in his ass getting it tailored hahaha.

Mugen910 · 12-11-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank

I currently follow a program that has a shortened 3 day a week version. Its a little more geared towards powerlifting, but i am sure with a little tweaking it can be set up for general lifting. Let me know if ya want some details.

I wouldn't mind taking a look at it....I am mostly trying to loss weight I never had a problem picking up size but looking lean has almost been impossible. Thanks big frank.

Did upper body at home..light weights but till failure.

icehog3 · 12-11-2008, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank

I think it would take a lot more than that to get a small neck.

Gotta get fitted for a suit for my brothers wedding. its my goal to make it a total pain in his ass getting it tailored hahaha.

When I got married, the Men's Warehouse had to cut one of their tuxedo coats to fit me....all at no extra charge. It was pretty cool.

BigFrank · 12-12-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

When I got married, the Men's Warehouse had to cut one of their tuxedo coats to fit me....all at no extra charge. It was pretty cool.

I think the tuxes are going to be from a pricey place ( not MW ) I think its funny because her faimly is covering most of the wedding, rich peoples lol!

ps open bar there and yes im getting tanked.

BigFrank · 12-12-2008, 06:06 PM

Friday Squat and Bomb Out Day
Squats
475x3 475x3 475x5(pr) ( went for a 6th rep, and hit the bottom and had nothing, crash bang boom power rack to the rescue hahahaha )
At this point I became enraged. after a 5 min swear fest, I pull my knee wraps so tight my feet were almost numb and racked 500, stood out and had nothing out of the bottom again) I quitted then.
Lunges
135x10x3
Good Mornings
135x10x3
Abs
100 crunches
Grip Strength Training

Shitty day at the gym.hit my 3RM PR, but wanted more. Got really upset. Story of my life.

Chris. · 12-13-2008, 08:00 AM

what do you do for grip strength? I find my hands cramping up a lot when using heavier dumb bells and seated rows etc..usually towards the end of my workout though.

Genetic Defect · 12-13-2008, 08:29 AM

Chris for grip look into Captains of Crush

never heard a bad thing about them.

BigFrank · 12-13-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vito

Chris for grip look into Captains of Crush

never heard a bad thing about them.

That is what I use.
Here is the website http://www.ironmind.com/ironmind/ope...nsofcrush.html

Here is where I purchased mine from.
http://www.flexcart.com/members/elit...lt.asp?cid=223

Here is the rating breakdown.
Guide @ 60 lb.
Sport @ 80 lb.
Trainer @ 100 lb.
No. 1 @ 140 lb.
No. 1.5
No. 2 @ 195 lb.
No. 2.5
No. 3 @ 280 lb.
No. 3.5
No. 4 @ 365 lb.

I currently train with the No.1. My grip training usually consists of 3 sets of 10 squeezes per hand. Also training without lifting straps will increase hand strength.

Mugen910 · 12-13-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris.

what do you do for grip strength? I find my hands cramping up a lot when using heavier dumb bells and seated rows etc..usually towards the end of my workout though.

I remember reading some time back that if you do pullups..try to incorporate regular towels. Throw them over the bar and use those to pull up onto. Your forearms will burn but the strength can pick up very fast.

zemekone · 12-13-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910

I remember reading some time back that if you do pullups..try to incorporate regular towels. Throw them over the bar and use those to pull up onto. Your forearms will burn but the strength can pick up very fast.

I use to do that! One caution: it kills your forearms so much it may mess up the rest of your back/bis/pull day...

BigFrank · 12-13-2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by zemekone

I use to do that! One caution: it kills your forearms so much it may mess up the rest of your back/bis/pull day...

That's why I deadlift first hahaha!

zemekone · 12-13-2008, 07:13 PM

Slow as helll at work...

Gonna do cardio, traps, and calves after work...

Chris. · 12-13-2008, 09:17 PM

yea I was thinking about buying the No.1 captains of crush thing. I know I probably wont be able to squeeze it in all the way but it would give me something to work up to instead of buying one I know I could squeeze all the way and having to buy a whole other set of them down the road. Thanks for the info on that guys!

Do any of you do shrugs? Do you use dumb bells for it or what? How about neck strengthening exercises?

Genetic Defect · 12-13-2008, 09:21 PM

When I do shrugs it was on a machine used to use barbells though

BigFrank · 12-13-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris.

yea I was thinking about buying the No.1 captains of crush thing. I know I probably wont be able to squeeze it in all the way but it would give me something to work up to instead of buying one I know I could squeeze all the way and having to buy a whole other set of them down the road. Thanks for the info on that guys!

Do any of you do shrugs? Do you use dumb bells for it or what? How about neck strengthening exercises?

I would buy the lower ones opposed to one you may not be able to close. Use one you can close for reps, then when you are ready for the next just buy it. I initially purchased the no.2 figuring my hand strength was great. I was dead wrong. I ended up buying the sport. Once I was closing it 20+ times I picked up the trainer, than same 20 reps got the no.1.

I am forced to do barbell shrugs because my gym's dumbbells go up only to 125. My trap training is on and off. There are a lot of other exercises for building a huge pair of traps. I have been doing a variation of the Hang Cleans which are a hybrid lift, and have noticed a big difference.
Here is a good article.

http://www.elitefts.com/documents/the_yoke.htm

I just starting doing neck work again. I picked up a neck harness awhile back.

BigFrank · 12-13-2008, 10:02 PM

Here is the hang clean.
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...HangClean.html
I only do 2 parts of this exercise. I dont put it on my chest. Its more like an upright row. But I use heavier weight and use my body to get a little english on it.

DavenportESQ · 12-13-2008, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris.

what do you do for grip strength? I find my hands cramping up a lot when using heavier dumb bells and seated rows etc..usually towards the end of my workout though.

When it comes to grip strength check out www.sorinex.com

They are a local company here in Columbia SC they make the best equipment I have ever used. Its a small family company. The man who started the Company's name is Richard. He is the first person to close the 3 gripper (20 years ago with all the certification b.s) The most recent (2008) and the Oldest (mid 50's) they have a good online forum too that talks a lot about training especially grip work.

For Grip work I like the actual grip weights called "the blob"

sorinexforums.com

12-11-2008, 05:08 PM	#602
BigFrank 5 3 1 Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Gym or Sofa. Posts: 1,896 Trading: (25)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Assistance work day. I was only working out 3 days a week, but I felt like a total bum. So I bumped to 4 days a week. Thursday are more or less a borderline bullshit day. nothing superheavy mainly assistance work for bench. I do not bother to write down numbers or reps. Just kinda hit some weights, do a little HIT cardio then out of the gym. 45 minutes tops usually. Standing Military Presses DB laterals superset with hang cleans HS shrugs super set with blackouts/skull crushers kaz presses done with dumbbells pull ups hammer curls suicide sprints on a side note, I forgot to do neck work LOL.

12-12-2008, 06:06 PM	#608
BigFrank 5 3 1 Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Gym or Sofa. Posts: 1,896 Trading: (25)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Friday Squat and Bomb Out Day Squats 475x3 475x3 475x5(pr) ( went for a 6th rep, and hit the bottom and had nothing, crash bang boom power rack to the rescue hahahaha ) At this point I became enraged. after a 5 min swear fest, I pull my knee wraps so tight my feet were almost numb and racked 500, stood out and had nothing out of the bottom again) I quitted then. Lunges 135x10x3 Good Mornings 135x10x3 Abs 100 crunches Grip Strength Training Shitty day at the gym.hit my 3RM PR, but wanted more. Got really upset. Story of my life.

12-13-2008, 08:00 AM	#609
Chris. PSHC! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,842 Trading: (25)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 what do you do for grip strength? I find my hands cramping up a lot when using heavier dumb bells and seated rows etc..usually towards the end of my workout though. __________________

12-13-2008, 08:29 AM	#610
Genetic Defect difetosso Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Perry Location: An elevator Posts: 5,202 Trading: (5)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Chris for grip look into Captains of Crush never heard a bad thing about them. __________________ I'm an outcast riding into town alone I got wanderlust branded deeper than the bone

12-13-2008, 07:13 PM	#615
zemekone im hungry... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: geRRy Location: So*Cal... Posts: 1,244 Trading: (0)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Slow as helll at work... Gonna do cardio, traps, and calves after work... __________________ A Person that says something cant be done, shouldn't interrupt me actually EFFing doing it!

12-13-2008, 09:17 PM	#616
Chris. PSHC! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,842 Trading: (25)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 yea I was thinking about buying the No.1 captains of crush thing. I know I probably wont be able to squeeze it in all the way but it would give me something to work up to instead of buying one I know I could squeeze all the way and having to buy a whole other set of them down the road. Thanks for the info on that guys! Do any of you do shrugs? Do you use dumb bells for it or what? How about neck strengthening exercises? __________________

12-13-2008, 09:21 PM	#617
Genetic Defect difetosso Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Perry Location: An elevator Posts: 5,202 Trading: (5)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 When I do shrugs it was on a machine used to use barbells though __________________ I'm an outcast riding into town alone I got wanderlust branded deeper than the bone

12-13-2008, 10:02 PM	#619
BigFrank 5 3 1 Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Gym or Sofa. Posts: 1,896 Trading: (25)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Here is the hang clean. http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...HangClean.html I only do 2 parts of this exercise. I dont put it on my chest. Its more like an upright row. But I use heavier weight and use my body to get a little english on it.