The Wine Thread

[nutcracker]

Originally Posted by mc808

While I do prefer old world wines, I find that many new world wines are very well made. It's often a case of terroir versus deliciousness and accessibility. Argentine Malbec does serve its purpose and is certainly a crowd pleaser though it may not measure up to your refined palates.

Couldn't agree more. You only have to look at any wine list to see what sells. Crowd pleaser, especially as a "stand alone" without food, is quite a different thing to pairing up a wine of structure with a meal.

Makes it fun! I find it sad that folks stick to 3 or 4 favourites, instead of trying what the world has to offer.

[mosesbotbol]

Bud Light is number one, but is that a good beer? I do not like virtually any new world wines. Wines start in the vineyard and making wine is a time tested tradition that should not be messed around too much.

He had a nice Michele Chiarlo 2008 Barolo last night. Great buy at $28 at NH Liquor Store. Worth picking up a case if you are in that locale.

[mc808]

An ice cold Bud Light is perfectly fine for me as a refreshment on a blazing hot summer day. Vinho Verde, a classic style of Portuguese wine, is light, fresh, and not terribly complex but perfect for quaffing as well.

I agree that good wine starts in the vineyard. You can't make good wine without good grapes. But winemaking tradition has given way to technology. Some technology is good and some bad. I would guess there are probably less than 10% of traditional wine producers left in the world.

Good pick up on the 2008 Chiarlo Barolo! $28 is a great price. Much better than their overpriced Cannubi.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by mc808

Good pick up on the 2008 Chiarlo Barolo! $28 is a great price. Much better than their overpriced Cannubi.

Picked up a case of 1979 Guigal Cote Rotie Brune et Blonde & 1988 Guigal Gigondas! Can't wait to start drinking them. These wines can really age well.

[nutcracker]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Picked up a case of 1979 Guigal Cote Rotie Brune et Blonde & 1988 Guigal Gigondas! Can't wait to start drinking them. These wines can really age well.

Wow - nice. The Brune et Blonde is hard to find here. Wonderful stuff. Proper Syrah!

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by nutcracker

Wow - nice. The Brune et Blonde is hard to find here. Wonderful stuff. Proper Syrah!

I plan to pick them up this week. Will report back after trying one.

[nutcracker]

Celebrating with my brother who is visiting from Johannesburg. Called for something special....

[mosesbotbol]

^^ How was the it? ^^

[nutcracker]

Sublime. A fine King James Stilton with preserved ginger and a 30yr old vintage port.
We killed the entire bottle, no problem.
Amazing balance, intense flavours with decent fruit and silky aged tannins. Brilliant.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by nutcracker

Sublime. A fine King James Stilton with preserved ginger and a 30yr old vintage port.
We killed the entire bottle, no problem.
Amazing balance, intense flavours with decent fruit and silky aged tannins. Brilliant.

Nice! '85 Warre is a great vintage. We had a '63 Warre on Thursday at a restaurant and it was a little on the tawny side, but the '80 Graham made up for that with its youth.

Great line up to celebrate our Independence.

[nutcracker]

Couple of nice a Burgundies there. How was the Les Malconsorts?

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by nutcracker

Couple of nice a Burgundies there. How was the Les Malconsorts?

Was solid. Lovely nose, but the finish was on the short side. Group was split on which Burgundy they like more. The Jadot had a better nose, but not as complex flavor. There was no clear front runner for WOTN.

The whole line up was for 4 people in total. I was feeling it the next day. I don't binge drink as much as I use to...

[nutcracker]

I have a hard time justifying a grand cru Cote de Nuits, so wondered about the Malconsorts as a decent premier cru.

[mc808]

Malconsorts is the vineyard next to La Tache and it's quality can approach Grand Cru level with pricing to match. Montille, Dujac, and Cathiard are the best.

I like the Les Suchots 1er cru for its value.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by mc808

Malconsorts is the vineyard next to La Tache and it's quality can approach Grand Cru level with pricing to match. Montille, Dujac, and Cathiard are the best.

I like the Les Suchots 1er cru for its value.

I haven't had Dujac in a while .

The importer for Malconsorts is down the road from me. I think we paid $35 for the bottle at the restaurant; I'll take it .

[nutcracker]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

I haven't had Dujac in a while .

The importer for Malconsorts is down the road from me. I think we paid $35 for the bottle at the restaurant; I'll take it .

$35! I can't buy Malbec or Carminere plonk out of a box for that here in town!

[mosesbotbol]

Here's a picture of some wines we are having today. 1988 Guigal Gigondas. Beautiful wine with great nose, tea leaves and roses on the palette. Mature, but not over the hill. 2nd wine is 1985 Delas CdP. Just opened this one earlier, but so far is pretty good. Funky, earthy nose, great color. Should go well with dinner tonight.

[nutcracker]

I'm a sucker for white CdP - can't say I've tried a 20yr old though.
Tonight a simple Zinck Alsatian Gewurtz - we're having curry !

The best wine for curry is beer.
Gewurtz might work - except my brother just chucked another chilli in the pot!

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by nutcracker

I'm a sucker for white CdP - can't say I've tried a 20yr old though.

You mean 30yr old... I hardly drink anything under 20 years old...

Light crisp beer is good with Indian food. For SE Asian beer I like Tiger beer. Has to be hot outside.

[mosesbotbol]

Here's tonight's line up:


I was moving a few things around the cellar and noticed this 1983 Ramos Pinto Vintag Port was the only leaker out of the bunch and it's been some time since I have this vintage. I am about to start on it. I had some sample glasses a few hours ago and it was quite rich and little spirity. Ramos VP's tend to be on the rich side. The 1979 Moillard Fixin was fun. Nose was inticing at first, and as I type this am about to finish the bottle. Burnt sugar notes and some fading flavors. Very mature Burgundy. Some floral notes. Went well enough with the grass fed eye roast we had for dinner. Leftover meat will make good sandwiches for work. Bought a small piece of Mahon cheese to have with the port. Not sure what cigar I will pair.