college major, advice?

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by icehog3

I have a Poli Sci degree, and I'm not on welfare.

...and that Pol Sci degree was the single deciding factor in your employers' decisions to hire you.

Sadly, college today is a scam industry. Colleges and primary school teachers think nothing of the vocational intentions most are going to college for. They fail to mention if someone cares to learn about anything taught in college; every lecture and curriculum is available free online. The exclusive content and atmosphere they offer is no longer the case.

Encouraging young people to resolve themselves into a crappy financial position & assume debt so they'll have an illusion of degree that will open doors is a fraud. Most will drop out of school and get worst hand. Those that graduate get a job for pennies on the dollar on what they owe for the degree that had no direct impact on the employer's decision.

How many college grads are working the counter at Starbucks nationwide?

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

...and that Pol Sci degree was the single deciding factor in your employers' decisions to hire you.

Nope. They want a 4 year degree, they don't care what field it's in. They're more concerned with character, communication skills and problem solving/decision making/conflict resolution skills than a college major.

That being said, I tried a couple other majors before Poli Sci, and was on academic probation and facing flunking out of college. Though Poli Sci is probably only relevant if your intention is to teach, it gave me something I was interested in and allowed me to excel rather than flunking out in business or computer courses. Graduated Cum Laude (phrasing!) after having a C/D average entering my third semester.

[mk05]

College is what you make of it. In a liberal arts college, the idea is to teach you how to think, which is a defined skill in itself. Generally, I think these people benefit most from further education that focuses into specialized fields (graduate school).

For those who do not wish to spend extra years/$ for further education, my advice would be to attend a university instead, and major in a field of study through one of the colleges.

[markem]

Originally Posted by mk05

College is what you make of it. In a liberal arts college, the idea is to teach you how to think, which is a defined skill in itself. Generally, I think these people benefit most from further education that focuses into specialized fields (graduate school).

For those who do not wish to spend extra years/$ for further education, my advice would be to attend a university instead, and major in a field of study through one of the colleges.

The top rated Liberal Arts school in the US is Reed College in Portland. This school has produced more than its share of millionaire / billionaire venture capitalists and counts people like Steven Jobs among their former students. Their placement rate is almost 100%. Those who go on to computer science at my institution (Portland State University) are among the best prepared for graduate school. Some go on to the Sloan School at Harvard, etc. but not even one-third get a second degree as they are highly sought out with their undergraduate liberal arts degrees.

To some degree, it is the institution, but mostly it is the person who determines success.

Many millionaires are engineers and computer scientists but many more are not.

If you plan to get a degree, get it in an area you truly enjoy. Getting a CS degree just to make money is a sure way to unhappiness and also flunking out of school.

[Porch Dweller]

I have very solid advice to offer, but I'm going to wait seven years to post it.

[mk05]

Ideally, yes, love what you do. I know so many people who just work to make money - and they are extremely successful - but the most wholesome people truly love their occupations.

As for my liberal arts comment, in case it was not understood...idea of liberal arts colleges is to teach you how to think differently/independently, and graduate schools are to focus in your field of specialty. Therefore, graduate schooling is even more appreciated to those with lib arts background, because by the time they decide to acquire more schooling, they truly understand why they are in school (again).

[markem]

Originally Posted by mk05

in case it was not understood...

No worries. I think that we all understood you.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by mk05

...idea of liberal arts colleges is to teach you how to think differently/independently, and graduate schools are to focus in your field of specialty.

That may've been the idea long ago, but now liberal arts colleges only teach group think. If you are not lock step into their doctrinarian, you are ostracized. Liberal arts education has to be one of worst ideas out there IMO, and I went to said school.

When my school calls me for money, they get the Vincent Price laugh from Thriller...

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[kelmac07]

Loving the responses to a SEVEN YEAR OLD thread.

[markem]

Originally Posted by kelmac07

Loving the responses to a SEVEN YEAR OLD thread.

If you don't have anything sarcastic to add, bugger off!

[mk05]

omg this thread is 7 yrs old LOL!!!

[hotreds]

I wonder what our friend IS up to!

[E.J.]

Funny, when this thread was started, my son was a sophomore in high school and had no idea. When he graduated HS, was thinking biotech. Ended up in IT. Works for the University now, pushing out product/doing presentations for the hospital and will graduate with his masters in the Fall. His current employer is grooming him for his eventual position, which at this point, he assumes he’ll take/continue working for.

Not that this input means much....just funny.

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[markem]

Originally Posted by MarylynCobb

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[markem]

Originally Posted by Susan77

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[massphatness]

goddammit SUSAN!

[AdamJoshua]

I don't know both Mary and Susan make more compelling arguments than, Marc, I'm kind of curious what their favorite box codes are.

Also could we tone down on the bot shamming please.