Negative Brand Bias? - Page 3

01-22-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JJG

oh jesus, I smoked a puros indios once and it was so bad I still remember the taste; like grass or hay. yuck

I'd rather smoke grass

01-22-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Steelergar

I have not been to impressed with Rocky Patel either but I got to tell you, do not pass up the RP decade, probably his best smoke in my opinion.

I'll second that!

Can't wait to try another one!

01-22-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JJG

I can't stand CAO's futuristic bands/logos and as a result I'm negatively biased towards everything they put out.

lets see, what else..

this guy just looks like he's saying "my cigars are really shitty"

But my hand rolled other stuff is grand!

neoflex · 01-22-2009, 07:34 PM

I'll throw in another Nub. Every stick I tried smoking from them was terrible and none ever made it past the 1 inch mark before being tossed. I could have struggled and stuck with them until the end but life is too short. This really baffles me because they are made by Oliva which I have yet to ever smoke any other Oliva that I thought was even remotely bad. I have been gifted a few Victor Sinclairs and I honestly am afraid to smoke them from the constant negative reviews I see about them. Every time I see them in the humi I keep thinking Cremosa.

One day I will try them. I do agree that Rocky has some issues. I wish he would keep his stuff consistent. I have said it time and time again, focus on keeping your main and top lines consistent and quit concentrating on introducing a new blend every two weeks. ( Gasp! I am afraid that Pepin may be headed down this road

)
CAO also suffers from changing their blends unexpectedly and yes they are a marketing machine but they do have a handful of enjoyable lines like the Brazilia and Italia that are hits with a good percentage of cigar smokers although I would rather see them focus more on the product instead of the crazy ways to market them and also concentrate on keeping things a little more consistent. Perfect example, the original release MX2 compared to the current blend. Two different animals.

Snake Hips · 01-22-2009, 07:51 PM

Drew Estates and CAO for me. I don't know why, either. I always think I'd like to at least explore these brands a little, but I can't bring myself to buy anything with their names on them. I also have an aversion to Rocky Patel. I haven't bought one, let alone smoked one, in a long, long time.

Tenor CS · 01-22-2009, 09:43 PM

For me, RyJ, Drew Estates and Macanudo.

01-23-2009, 01:31 AM

Drew Estate!!! I don't like any of their so-called cigars or their hip-hop marketing strategy.

01-23-2009, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by butterB

Anything Rolando Reyes makes (Puros Indios, Aliados, Cienfuego, etc) is pure

^^^^^ I'm with him, STAY AWAY^^^^^^^

01-23-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Waynegro1

Drew Estate!!! I don't like any of their so-called cigars or their hip-hop marketing strategy.

I agree with you on that one for sure. There is a guy here in Vegas who owns a b&M and he says his Acids fly off the shelf. he has a bunch of people who come in and taht is all they buy. wierd...

poker · 01-23-2009, 09:00 AM

Guantanamera

Slow Triathlete · 01-23-2009, 09:03 AM

Illusion.

The owner killed that brand for me with his Jim Jones advertising.

Starscream · 01-23-2009, 09:57 AM

Puros Indios/Rolando Reyes and NUB are on my never again list. Victor Sinclair is a few sticks away from never again (haven't completely written them off yet).

NCRadioMan · 01-23-2009, 10:38 AM

Ah, soooo many but here are a few for me:

Fuente
Reyes
Partagas
Hoyo
Monte
Punch
Illusione
Mac
Nub
Cohiba Red Dot
Perdomo
VS
Bahia
Black Pearl
Nat Sherman
Anything made by Don Kiki
Padilla
Savinelli
Trinidad

01-23-2009, 10:46 AM

I really like the new CAO CX2 (the only one I like). Great taste, nice burn! However, I have never smoked a Ghurka that I enjoyed. For whatever reason I can't get past the taste on any of them. They are undoubtedly doing something right due to their huge sales volume. Love the RJ Reserva stix and ALL of the Sancho Panza stix.

DrDubzz · 01-23-2009, 11:05 AM

#1 for me is Puros Indios

renton20 · 01-23-2009, 11:09 AM

Like many other I do have some brands that I try to stay away from in general. General and Altadis are two big ones but I, like many of you, stay away from CAO and RP as well. I do have an open mind though. I recently tried the RP renaissance and was reminded of why I don't like rocky. On the other hand I was impressed with both the Lx2 and the reverse rolled America perfecto that I had recently. Fuente is another company that has just never impressed me. IMHO opus and anejo are overrated because of Fuente's excellent marketing and nothing else has ever just fit my preferred profile.

01-23-2009, 07:04 PM

CAO has been a terminal disappointment for me. A new stogie by them holds no lure.

That being said a new cigar is always met with some suspicion with me. Depends on how and where its coming out. Is it a internet big guy "exclusive"? Then who cares. Is it a non-internet cigar? Intriguing. Who's hyping it? My trusted friends or some douche bag.

SmokinApe · 01-23-2009, 07:20 PM

Perdomo & Drew Estate

Starscream · 01-23-2009, 07:26 PM

No one has mentioned Cremosa, Phillies, White Owls, or Tampa Nuggets yet?

LkyLindy · 01-23-2009, 08:04 PM

Have to go RP also--The OWR maddys are ok but otherwise Phooey

01-22-2009, 07:34 PM	#44
neoflex I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: John Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 2,765 Trading: (32)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? I'll throw in another Nub. Every stick I tried smoking from them was terrible and none ever made it past the 1 inch mark before being tossed. I could have struggled and stuck with them until the end but life is too short. This really baffles me because they are made by Oliva which I have yet to ever smoke any other Oliva that I thought was even remotely bad. I have been gifted a few Victor Sinclairs and I honestly am afraid to smoke them from the constant negative reviews I see about them. Every time I see them in the humi I keep thinking Cremosa. One day I will try them. I do agree that Rocky has some issues. I wish he would keep his stuff consistent. I have said it time and time again, focus on keeping your main and top lines consistent and quit concentrating on introducing a new blend every two weeks. ( Gasp! I am afraid that Pepin may be headed down this road ) CAO also suffers from changing their blends unexpectedly and yes they are a marketing machine but they do have a handful of enjoyable lines like the Brazilia and Italia that are hits with a good percentage of cigar smokers although I would rather see them focus more on the product instead of the crazy ways to market them and also concentrate on keeping things a little more consistent. Perfect example, the original release MX2 compared to the current blend. Two different animals. __________________

01-22-2009, 07:51 PM	#45
Snake Hips Götterdämmerung Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Tyler Location: Directly above the center of the Earth Posts: 1,013 Trading: (10)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Drew Estates and CAO for me. I don't know why, either. I always think I'd like to at least explore these brands a little, but I can't bring myself to buy anything with their names on them. I also have an aversion to Rocky Patel. I haven't bought one, let alone smoked one, in a long, long time.

01-22-2009, 09:43 PM	#46
Tenor CS Feeling Better! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Christian Location: Davenport, FL (near Orlando) Posts: 717 Trading: (2)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? For me, RyJ, Drew Estates and Macanudo. __________________ When the world itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies?

01-23-2009, 01:31 AM	#47
Waynegro1 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Drew Estate!!! I don't like any of their so-called cigars or their hip-hop marketing strategy.

01-23-2009, 09:00 AM	#50
poker 1:11 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Kelly Location: SoCal Posts: 5,280 Trading: (7)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Guantanamera __________________ Cigar Asylum: A cigar board birthed without agendas, without profiting, and without advertisements. Amor puro Character is what you do when no one is watching

01-23-2009, 09:03 AM	#51
Slow Triathlete I Need A Beer!! Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 369 Trading: (11)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Illusion. The owner killed that brand for me with his Jim Jones advertising.

01-23-2009, 09:57 AM	#52
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Puros Indios/Rolando Reyes and NUB are on my never again list. Victor Sinclair is a few sticks away from never again (haven't completely written them off yet). __________________ Insert quote here.

01-23-2009, 10:38 AM	#53
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,277 Trading: (66)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Ah, soooo many but here are a few for me: Fuente Reyes Partagas Hoyo Monte Punch Illusione Mac Nub Cohiba Red Dot Perdomo VS Bahia Black Pearl Nat Sherman Anything made by Don Kiki Padilla Savinelli Trinidad __________________ The path to loyalty is trust.

01-23-2009, 10:46 AM	#54
benalishriner Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Negative Brand Bias? I really like the new CAO CX2 (the only one I like). Great taste, nice burn! However, I have never smoked a Ghurka that I enjoyed. For whatever reason I can't get past the taste on any of them. They are undoubtedly doing something right due to their huge sales volume. Love the RJ Reserva stix and ALL of the Sancho Panza stix.

01-23-2009, 11:05 AM	#55
DrDubzz Formerly RX2010 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Virginia Posts: 2,201 Trading: (34)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? #1 for me is Puros Indios

01-23-2009, 11:09 AM	#56
renton20 Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 212 Trading: (13)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Like many other I do have some brands that I try to stay away from in general. General and Altadis are two big ones but I, like many of you, stay away from CAO and RP as well. I do have an open mind though. I recently tried the RP renaissance and was reminded of why I don't like rocky. On the other hand I was impressed with both the Lx2 and the reverse rolled America perfecto that I had recently. Fuente is another company that has just never impressed me. IMHO opus and anejo are overrated because of Fuente's excellent marketing and nothing else has ever just fit my preferred profile.

01-23-2009, 07:04 PM	#57
Legend Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Negative Brand Bias? CAO has been a terminal disappointment for me. A new stogie by them holds no lure. That being said a new cigar is always met with some suspicion with me. Depends on how and where its coming out. Is it a internet big guy "exclusive"? Then who cares. Is it a non-internet cigar? Intriguing. Who's hyping it? My trusted friends or some douche bag.

01-23-2009, 07:20 PM	#58
SmokinApe Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeremy Posts: 1,267 Trading: (35)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Perdomo & Drew Estate

01-23-2009, 07:26 PM	#59
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? No one has mentioned Cremosa, Phillies, White Owls, or Tampa Nuggets yet? __________________ Insert quote here.

01-23-2009, 08:04 PM	#60
LkyLindy Chief Cook/Bottle Washer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Harvey Location: Long Island NY Posts: 134 Trading: (6)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Have to go RP also--The OWR maddys are ok but otherwise Phooey __________________ any time you try a decent crime, you got fifty ways you're gonna fu*k up. If you think of twenty-five of them, then you're a genius... and you ain't no genius.