Question for people in constant high heat weather.

[ktblunden]

Originally Posted by ApexAZ

Hey Josh, living in Phoenix has me contemplating a strategy for keeping my cigars cooler in the summer months as well. I think for me I plan to get some big reusable freezer block things to rotate in my Coleman every week or so because my house never drops below 78. This coupled with freezing will hopefully prevent any beetle issues. Eventually I want to get a wine cooler.

If you're freezing all your cigars for at least 3 days prior to putting them in your humi you should never have a beetle issue, regardless of how high your ambient temperature gets.

[ApexAZ]

Originally Posted by ktblunden

If you're freezing all your cigars for at least 3 days prior to putting them in your humi you should never have a beetle issue, regardless of how high your ambient temperature gets.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by ApexAZ

Hey Josh, living in Phoenix has me contemplating a strategy for keeping my cigars cooler in the summer months as well. I think for me I plan to get some big reusable freezer block things to rotate in my Coleman every week or so because my house never drops below 78. This coupled with freezing will hopefully prevent any beetle issues. Eventually I want to get a wine cooler.

This will cause condensation problems in your coolerdor.

[smitty81]

Originally Posted by T.G

This will cause condensation problems in your coolerdor.

Would it matter if the sticks were in a zip lock bag?

[jluck]

So is this another beetle thread? Or are you curious about keeping cigars in hot climates?

Valid question, I'm not trying to be a d!ck.

[smitty81]

Originally Posted by jluck

So is this another beetle thread? Or are you curious about keeping cigars in hot climates?

Keeping cigars in a warmer climate is what I'm asking about.

Guess it could be related to beetles though.

If you freeze them to start with you dont have to worry how warm they get afterwords?

[T.G]

Originally Posted by smitty81

Would it matter if the sticks were in a zip lock bag?

It depends on how close they are to the reusable ice blocks, but yes it might cause condensation issues in the bags too.

[CigarNut]

Originally Posted by smitty81

Keeping cigars in a warmer climate is what I'm asking about.

Guess it could be related to beetles though.

If you freeze them to start with you dont have to worry how warm they get afterwords?

That is correct. Freezing == No Beetles.

However, humidity changes with temperature so you still need to keep your eye on things...

[smitty81]

Originally Posted by CigarNut

That is correct. Freezing == No Beetles.

However, humidity changes with temperature so you still need to keep your eye on things...

got it.

Thank you for answering my noob questions.

[smitty81]

Originally Posted by T.G

It depends on how close they are to the reusable ice blocks, but yes it might cause condensation issues in the bags too.

ok, thanks for your input.

[kydsid]

Okay first off the only real answer for anyone in high heat environments to keep the cigars cool themselves is a wineador etc that has its own cooling device. You can search my threads and find a write up I did while living in a climate that even at night did not go below 80 degrees.


Second, sorry to burst people bubbles, but freezing is not a 100% pest exclusion method. You are kidding yourself about any pest to ever think that any pest control method is 100% effective. However thourough and below 0 freezing is highly effective on all insects and given the prescence of tobacco beetles is already low you are further lowering the chances to as low as possible to make an outbreak inprobable but it will always be possible.



EDIT: Here is the thread I was speaking of: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19819

[ApexAZ]

Originally Posted by T.G

This will cause condensation problems in your coolerdor.

I thought that too and will maybe store it in a gallon ziplock and/or possibly wrapped in a dish towel.

[kydsid]

Originally Posted by ApexAZ

I thought that too and will maybe store it in a gallon ziplock and/or possibly wrapped in a dish towel.

This dish towel will just become the breading ground for mold. That ice pack is a novel idea but all I see is trouble. Only way condensation isn't a problem is if you have air movement and a way to absorb it over time and release back into the environment. Otherwise you just fight a constant battle of removing it yourself with paper towels or the like then adding water to beads or other humidification device when you go low.

[kaisersozei]

You can always bury them in your backyard

www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=34453

[CigarNut]

Originally Posted by kydsid

This dish towel will just become the breading ground for mold. That ice pack is a novel idea but all I see is trouble. Only way condensation isn't a problem is if you have air movement and a way to absorb it over time and release back into the environment. Otherwise you just fight a constant battle of removing it yourself with paper towels or the like then adding water to beads or other humidification device when you go low.

Unless you are freezing your cigars keep them away from ice -- you are only making problems for yourself otherwise.

Originally Posted by kaisersozei

You can always bury them in your backyard

www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=34453

Ah yes, the "Cigar Sewar." I had forgotten this brilliant storage method.

[smitty81]

Originally Posted by kaisersozei

You can always bury them in your backyard

www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=34453

That is actually pretty cool.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by smitty81

That is actually pretty cool.

Opinions vary.

[ApexAZ]

Originally Posted by CigarNut

Unless you are freezing your cigars keep them away from ice -- you are only making problems for yourself otherwise.

Well, crap, okay. Hopefully 78 will be fine until I can get a vino, or 3

[CigarNut]

Originally Posted by ApexAZ

Well, crap, okay. Hopefully 78 will be fine until I can get a vino, or 3

Freeze your cigars when you get them and 78 degress won't matter.