New York Yankees 2011

[MedicCook]

The Yankees lost another member of the family on Thursday. Ryne Duren pitched for the Yankees from 1958 - 1961. He had a 100 mph fastball and was known for his wild throws while warming up on the mound. He was an All*Star three times. He pitched in two World Series with the Yankees winning a ring in 1958.

Ryne Sandberg was named after Duren.

[MedicCook]

Yankees Fact:
In 1978, Ron Guidry set the record for the highest single-season winning percentage for a pitcher with 20 or more wins, posting a .893 average (25 wins and 3 losses) for the Yankees.

[MedicCook]

Trivia:
Hideki Matsui made his Major League debut with the Yankees in 2003, finishing second in the Rookie of the Year Award voting to what shortstop with the Kansas City Royals?

[MedicCook]

This Date in Yankees History:

1/11/2005 - The New York Yankees traded Brad Halsey, Dioner Navarro, Javier Vazquez and cash to the Arizona Diamondbacks for Randy Johnson.

1/11/1977 - The New York Yankees drafted Willie McGee in the 1st round (15th pick) of the 1977 amateur draft (January Secondary). Player signed June 6, 1977.

1/11/1965 - Yankees first baseman Wally Pipp (1915-1925) died.

[jonumberone]

Originally Posted by MedicCook

Trivia:
Hideki Matsui made his Major League debut with the Yankees in 2003, finishing second in the Rookie of the Year Award voting to what shortstop with the Kansas City Royals?

Easy one

Angel Barroa....... He played for the Yanks in 09 I believe!

I hope I win the same prize as the last time

[MedicCook]

Luis Sojo is back to manage the Tampa Yankees for 2011.

[Subvet642]

If I may...

Trivia question:
Who were the Yankees prior to 1900?

[MedicCook]

Not sure if anyone saw but the little girl that was killed in the Tucson shooting was the daughter of former Yankee John Green. Her grandfather was former Yankee manager Dallas Green. Condolences to her family and the other families affected by the attack.

[MedicCook]

The Baltimore Orioles of the National League (pre-1900) are not the same franchise as the Baltimore Orioles of the American League (1901).

[Subvet642]

Originally Posted by MedicCook

The Baltimore Orioles of the National League (pre-1900) are not the same franchise as the Baltimore Orioles of the American League (1901).

Yes they are; that is why you will find that Mugsy McGraw was Player/Manager from 1899 through 1902.

[MedicCook]

Originally Posted by Subvet642

Yes they are; that is why you will find that Mugsy McGraw was Player/Manager from 1899 through 1902.

John McGraw played for the Baltimore Orioles of the NL 1891-1899 and as a player manager in 1899. 1900 he played for the St. Louis Cardinals. There was no team in Baltimore in 1900 because the National League contracted it. In 1901 a new ownership put a team back in Baltimore and hired John McGraw as the player/manager for the 1901 & 1902 seasons.

[Subvet642]

Rk Year Tm Lg G W L Ties W-L% Finish Playoffs R RA BatAge PitchAge #Bat #Pitch Top Player Managers
1 1899 Baltimore Orioles NL 152 86 62 4 .581 4th of 12 827 691 27.2 26.1 24 7 J.McGraw (8.6) John McGraw (86-62)
2 1898 Baltimore Orioles NL 154 96 53 5 .644 2nd of 12 933 623 27.2 25.4 24 7 H.Jennings (8.8) Ned Hanlon (96-53)
3 1897 Baltimore Orioles NL 136 90 40 6 .692 2nd of 12 964 674 27.1 23.1 20 8 H.Jennings (8.1) Ned Hanlon (90-40)
4 1896 Baltimore Orioles NL 132 90 39 3 .698 1st of 12 995 662 26.8 25.6 22 9 H.Jennings (9.3) Ned Hanlon (90-39)
5 1895 Baltimore Orioles NL 132 87 43 2 .669 1st of 12 1009 646 25.5 25.7 20 8 H.Jennings (9.1) Ned Hanlon (87-43)
6 1894 Baltimore Orioles NL 129 89 39 1 .695 1st of 12 1171 819 25.9 26.3 20 10 J.Kelley (7.1) Ned Hanlon (89-39)
7 1893 Baltimore Orioles NL 130 60 70 0 .462 8th of 12 820 893 26.3 26.7 25 8 S.McMahon (4.8) Ned Hanlon (60-70)
8 1892 Baltimore Orioles NL 152 46 101 5 .313 12th of 12 779 1020 28.1 25.6 37 14 G.Van Haltren (2.2) George Van Haltren (1-10), John Waltz (2-6) and Ned Hanlon (43-85)
9 1891 Baltimore Orioles AA 139 71 64 4 .526 4th of 9 850 798 26.7 23.7 18 6 S.McMahon (10.6) Billy Barnie (71-64)
10 1890 Baltimore Orioles AA 38 15 19 4 .441 6th of 9 182 192 25.5 21.8 18 5 S.McMahon (1.7) Billy Barnie (15-19)
11 1889 Baltimore Orioles AA 139 70 65 4 .519 5th of 8 791 795 26.6 24.0 23 5 M.Kilroy (10.6) Billy Barnie (70-65)
12 1888 Baltimore Orioles AA 137 57 80 0 .416 5th of 8 653 779 27.0 22.4 23 10 T.Tucker (3.2) Billy Barnie (57-80)
13 1887 Baltimore Orioles AA 141 77 58 6 .570 3rd of 8 975 861 25.7 21.3 17 9 M.Kilroy (13.1) Billy Barnie (77-58)
14 1886 Baltimore Orioles AA 139 48 83 8 .366 8th of 8 625 878 27.5 23.6 31 15 M.Kilroy (6.8) Billy Barnie (48-83)
15 1885 Baltimore Orioles AA 110 41 68 1 .376 8th of 8 541 683 25.4 22.5 32 11 H.Henderson (7.2) Billy Barnie (41-68)
16 1884 Baltimore Orioles AA 108 63 43 2 .594 6th of 13 636 515 26.6 23.3 19 5 H.Henderson (7.0) Billy Barnie (63-43)
17 1883 Baltimore Orioles AA 96 28 68 0 .292 8th of 8 471 742 25.7 22.2 29 8 J.Clinton (0.9) Billy Barnie (28-68)
18 1882 Baltimore Orioles AA 74 19 54 1 .260 6th of 6 273 515 25.8 26.5 23 8 T.Brown (0.4) Henry Myers (19-54)

John "Mugsy" McGraw's managerial time with the Orioles:

Year Age Tm Lg G W L W-L% Finish
1 1899 26 Baltimore Orioles NL 152 86 62 .581 4 Player/Manager
2 1901 28 Baltimore Orioles AL 135 68 65 .511 5 Player/Manager
3 1902 29 Baltimore Orioles AL 1st of 2 58 26 31 .456 8 Player/Manager

[Subvet642]

For more information, see the link below from The Yankee Encyclopaedia:


http://books.google.com/books?id=xEo...McGraw&f=false

[Subvet642]

As I dig deeper into this, I'm finding contradictory information, but not any concrete organizational link. Ryan, it seems that I cannot prove my assertion and therefore must be in error.

[MedicCook]

You are not getting it. Same city, same name, but not the same franchise. The Baltimore Orioles of the NL were done after the 1899 season. The team was contracted, disbanded, destroyed, the players went elsewhere to play in 1900. In 1901 the American League wanted to put a team in New York but the Giants blocked the formation of this new franchise in New York. This new franchise then used their back up plan and went to Baltimore and called themselves the Baltimore Orioles. They hired former Baltimore player/manager McGraw for 1901-1902.

[MedicCook]

It is needed after finding out that Pettitte will not be returning for 2011. Add in Logan, Joba & Robertson and they could shorten the game down to 6 innings.

[jonumberone]

I like the move, but I don't understand If they were going to pay 11+ million for a setup man, why not keep Kerry wood?

[MedicCook]

Because Soriano is better than Kerry Wood. Plus when Wood signed they still had hope for Pettitte in the rotation.

[VirtualSmitty]

Originally Posted by MedicCook

Because Soriano is better than Kerry Wood. Plus when Wood signed they still had hope for Pettitte in the rotation.

Exactly. Soriano is much better than Wood and younger too. Plus it gives us a proven closer if Mo decides to call it quits in three years.

So Yankee fans, think Mariano will pass Hoffman on the all time saves list this year?

[jonumberone]

Originally Posted by MedicCook

Because Soriano is better than Kerry Wood. Plus when Wood signed they still had hope for Pettitte in the rotation.

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

Exactly. Soriano is much better than Wood and younger too. Plus it gives us a proven closer if Mo decides to call it quits in three years.

So Yankee fans, think Mariano will pass Hoffman on the all time saves list this year?

I understand Soriano is younger than Wood, but he proved himself here in NY.
Wood had a 1 year club option at 10 million. We have seen more than 1 closer come here in a setup role and be awful, ala Tom gordon, Kyle Farnsworth.

As for the saves thing, It's kind of like the who's the best HR hitter of all time question. The answer is obviously Babe Ruth even tho people have hit more HR than him.
Hoffman may have more saves but he has always been awful in a big spot and Mo is the better closer regardless of how many saves he has.