Tatuaje Saints & Sinners club

[Brooks W]

Originally Posted by neoflex

If there is no more included in it than discounts and access to LEs and the other items mentioned in the e-mail than $150 is steep in my opinion. If the membership includes some swag and maybe an exclusive sampler of sticks than no it's not too off the wall but if I am going to pay $150 I would like to get more in return than the promise of be able to buy more of Petes stuff even if it's discounted. The way the e-mail went out it makes it almost sound like the Sams Club or Costco of Tatuaje. I was kind of excited to see what the Saints and Sinners would be but after this mornings e-mail I was quickly disappointed from how it initially sounded in the rumblings in the past months. Initially I had heard if you were a member you would be sent test blends, samples of up and coming sticks, swag etc.

Straight from Pete (and the person working with Pete on the project):

"The pack has changed slightly over the last few weeks but will still include the same quantity that was originally mentioned." (i.e. 15 cigars)...

When someone asked "Im hoping it was the regular production stuff that was x-ed and the exclusive stuff stayed"

Pete said:

"I just changed a few sizes. The mix of reg and exclusive is still the same. "

Hope that helps!

~brooks

[neoflex]

Originally Posted by Brooks W

Straight from Pete (and the person working with Pete on the project):

"The pack has changed slightly over the last few weeks but will still include the same quantity that was originally mentioned." (i.e. 15 cigars)...

When someone asked "Im hoping it was the regular production stuff that was x-ed and the exclusive stuff stayed"

Pete said:

"I just changed a few sizes. The mix of reg and exclusive is still the same. "

Hope that helps!

~brooks

Thanks!
Unless it is actually stated on the initial sign up page on the 1st than I will take a pass on it as if it's not in writing than technically they don't need to send chit. I'm hoping what you posted does end up coming to fruition as I would probably jump on it. Even if I never take advantage of the discounts at least at the end of the day I will feel like I actually paid for something.

[poker]

Originally Posted by muhren

Another thought I had before I head out for a run...

IF you can afford to smoke Tatuaje (or any other high-$ sticks for that matter) is the $150 that steep of a price tag?

M

I'm fairly certain I can afford smoking only high end cigars out there, but that dont mean I'll just fork over $150.00 for belly button lint.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by poker

I'm fairly certain I can afford smoking only high end cigars out there, but that dont mean I'll just fork over $150.00 for belly button lint.

Not even Pete Johnson belly button lint?

[chippewastud79]

Sounds a lot like joining a band fan site to have the first option of buying concert tickets. Pay your money, find out that the 'exclusive deals' are just a week early and you can buy them for a cheaper price if you waited. It looks like marketing hype to me, $150 to buy stuff that is 'exclusive' to the club and get a nice free sampler. Sign me up so I can buy an exclusive Tatuaje hat that you can also get by: ordering online, going to an event, buying a sampler or a full box. But if you are in the club, you get first crack at buying the hat. Paying money to be the first to pay more money.

[KidRock]

Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Sounds a lot like joining a band fan site to have the first option of buying concert tickets. Pay your money, find out that the 'exclusive deals' are just a week early and you can buy them for a cheaper price if you waited. It looks like marketing hype to me, $150 to buy stuff that is 'exclusive' to the club and get a nice free sampler. Sign me up so I can buy an exclusive Tatuaje hat that you can also get by: ordering online, going to an event, buying a sampler or a full box. But if you are in the club, you get first crack at buying the hat. Paying money to be the first to pay more money.

Agreed. I love Tatuaje cigars but between the marketing and massive releases of limited cigars it is running its course with me. What happened it to being just about the cigar?

[Bill86]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Not even Pete Johnson LIMITED EDITION belly button lint?

Eh Eh, bet you would buy it now!

[replicant_argent]

One of the charities is/probably should be titled "The Pete Johnson Sucker Memorial Retirement Fund."
While I dig his cigars, his marketing isn't my cup of tea, and I pass on this type of hucksterism, either First Party or third party.

This Way to the Egress!

[massphatness]

Can someone post the email itself?

We apologize for the delay, but we are finally here to unveil the details of the Saints & Sinners club.

The Saints & Sinners Club is an exclusive members only club and for an annual registration fee of $150, each member will receive:

1. Exclusive, one-off products available only to members (select products may not be available for purchase through the S&S webstore).
2. Everyday Tatuaje branded merchandise at the Saints & Sinners club rate.
3. Access to members-only forums, where you can discuss the finer points of cigars, smoking accessories, spirits, and anything else associated with the Saints & Sinners lifestyle
4. Access to the Pete Johnson video blog. Here, Pete will update members on everything PJHC. Watch Pete as he travels around the world, visiting his production facility in Nicaragua, engages fans on cigar tours, and dishes on anything else he feels his Saints & Sinners family should know about.
5. First looks at new cigar blends, swag, as well as insider info on Tatuaje and other Pete Johnson brands.
6. The knowledge that a portion of your annual membership fee will go to an eclectic mix of charities that Pete choses for their commitment to their particular cause.

Visit the site and become one of the first granted entrance to this distinguished organization.

With the extremely limited nature of the products we are producing for each membership kit, we need to get an idea of how many people plan on joining the club so we can begin producing the qtys necessary to begin shipping shortly after launching the club.

To opt in, please click HERE and you will be directed to a new sign up page!

If you no longer wish to receive information leading up to the launch of the club please unsubscribe by clicking the button below.

It was mentioned previously that it includes 15 cigars. Part of the reason for the delay was setting up a Florida corporation where there is no tobacco tax for shipping those cigars. Admittedly, the email is vague.

[massphatness]

Originally Posted by ajacobs

It was mentioned previously that it includes 15 cigars. Part of the reason for the delay was setting up a Florida corporation where there is no tobacco tax for shipping those cigars. Admittedly, the email is vague.

Thanks for posting the info, Aaron.

If nothing else, 15 Tatuaje-ish cigars could be worth $150- if you enjoy their line up.

[neoflex]

Originally Posted by massphatness

Thanks for posting the info, Aaron.

If nothing else, 15 Tatuaje-ish cigars could be worth $150- if you enjoy their line up.

I agree totally and would probably pull the trigger if this were the case. The e-mail doesn't mention anything of the sort though other than more or less donating your money.

[replicant_argent]

Originally Posted by ajacobs

It was mentioned previously that it includes 15 cigars. Part of the reason for the delay was setting up a Florida corporation where there is no tobacco tax for shipping those cigars. Admittedly, the email is vague.

I don't see in post #34 where it mentions 15 cigars, is it somewhere else you could link?

[srduggins]

Somebody beat me to it.

[muhren]

ajacobs & srduggins - How dare you?!

Both banned from the club before it even officially begins for sharing information!

M

[Bunker]

I got the email, but I am not joining if all you get is a discount and some swag, if there is a sampler involved maybe.

[T.G]

In all seriousness...

The first time I heard about this was back in November directly from Pete (apparently I was the only person there who had never heard of this project) and Pete said he was doing it for the people who like these kinds of things. Apparently, Pete is as much a collector as he is a smoker and he said he loves going after the HTF and exclusive **** and he knows that there are other people like this too, so he wanted to cater to them a bit.

He did say there will be some exclusive stuff and even some older stuff.

Is he going to make money on it? Sure. It is his job after all. But through that, Pete is just a regular guy who loves cigars like the rest of us, he just happens to make them also.

Does he plan on bilking people or taking advantage of them? It didn't sound that way. Really sounded like a membership fee to get access to cigars that won't see general release, but the sale prices will be in line with his other MSRPs.

Originally Posted by T.G

In all seriousness...

The first time I heard about this was back in November directly from Pete (apparently I was the only person there who had never heard of this project) and Pete said he was doing it for the people who like these kinds of things. Apparently, Pete is as much a collector as he is a smoker and he said he loves going after the HTF and exclusive **** and he knows that there are other people like this too, so he wanted to cater to them a bit.

He did say there will be some exclusive stuff and even some older stuff.

Is he going to make money on it? Sure. It is his job after all. But through that, Pete is just a regular guy who loves cigars like the rest of us, he just happens to make them also.

Does he plan on bilking people or taking advantage of them? It didn't sound that way. Really sounded like a membership fee to get access to cigars that won't see general release, but the sale prices will be in line with his other MSRPs.

Thanks for a different POV, Adam. This is the approximate point I was thinking of making. I, and many of you, have met Pete in person. I don't think everything he does is great, or that he's some rock star, but he's a pretty cool guy and not a douche as some make him out to be. I've watched a few videos of him, spoke to him once in person, and I can honestly say that I believe he does this kind of stuff mostly out of enjoyment. I'm sure there will be a nice little package given out for signing up. I, for one, will likely be doing so.

It's kind of unnerving to see some of the animosity around here that goes on around here towards Pete Johnson and some others in the cigar industry. If somebody doesn't like a product or idea, it makes sense to discuss it. Do we really need to attack the character of the person?

[Brutus2600]

Originally Posted by mariogolbee

Thanks for a different POV, Adam. This is the approximate point I was thinking of making. I, and many of you, have met Pete in person. I don't think everything he does is great, or that he's some rock star, but he's a pretty cool guy and not a douche as some make him out to be. I've watched a few videos of him, spoke to him once in person, and I can honestly say that I believe he does this kind of stuff mostly out of enjoyment. I'm sure there will be a nice little package given out for signing up. I, for one, will likely be doing so.

It's kind of unnerving to see some of the animosity around here that goes on around here towards Pete Johnson and some others in the cigar industry. If somebody doesn't like a product or idea, it makes sense to discuss it. Do we really need to attack the character of the person?

I'm with you Mario...while I am actually kind of burned out on chasing the LE's that he releases, having met him and chatted for awhile, in no way do I think he needs insulted for the what he's doing with his product.

So I get it if you're burned out on chasing LE's, and if it's not your thing, why waste energy posting insults? It seems that every Tat thread goes from a couple of interested Tat-Whores posting a few messages then it deteriorates into a PJ insult thread.