Sean Avery

Originally Posted by icehog3

Doesn't sound like the players nor the coach want him back. The players refused when he asked to address them personally with an apology. Modano, several other players and the head coach continue to express their doubts in the media.

What does Avery care....he gets paid either way. Hope no other NHL team takes a chance on this head case.

He might not actually get paid. There is a clause in the contract that requires behavior commensurate with the professional standards of the league. If they can provide supportable proof that his behavior is detrimental to league then he would be in breach and therefore not entitled to be paid. It would definitely result in a lawsuit but Hicks is no stranger to lawsuits and might know a lawyer or two.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by ahc4353

So you think 6 games is fair Tom?

I don't know what's fair from the League....but I am not unhappy to hear that his Stars teammates don't want him back.

Hockey is a team sport....Avery doesn't get that, Al.

Originally Posted by icehog3

I don't know what's fair from the League....but I am not unhappy to hear that his Stars teammates don't want him back.

Hockey is a team sport....Avery doesn't get that, Al.

I agree fully with your second comment.

As for the first one I do believe in trying to be fair with punishments. As an example, the Randy Jones hit on Patrice Bergeron that could of ended his career. This hit got him two games. Avery gets six for a classless 14 year old comment. The NHL has no consistentancy when it comes to punishments.

Bettman is an a$$ and the NHL looks worse because of him.

CLICK FOR THE HIT


GO PENN STATE!
GO NJ ROCKETS!
GO RANGERS!

[md4958]

Al, do you just post in this thread because you dont get enough abuse from the Massholes???

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by ahc4353

I agree fully with your second comment.

As for the first one I do believe in trying to be fair with punishments. As an example, the Randy Jones hit on Patrice Bergeron that could of ended his career. This hit got him two games. Avery gets six for a classless 14 year old comment. The NHL has no consistentancy when it comes to punishments.

Bettman is an a$$ and the NHL looks worse because of him.

CLICK FOR THE HIT


GO PENN STATE!
GO NJ ROCKETS!
GO RANGERS!

I believe the League stated that Avery's suspension is harsh because of numerous prior incidents which he was not suspended for.

While it may look harsh on its face, I believe in Karma....Sean finally got what has been coming to him for a while....and the suspension will be the least of it.

Originally Posted by icehog3

Hockey is a team sport....

Hockey Role Model??

Hockey Role Model Part 2

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by tobii3

Hockey Role Model??

Hockey Role Model Part 2

Nobody is saying those hits are defensible.

No one is saying that children should look to pro athletes as role models.

How is this relevant to the Avery situation?

Originally Posted by tobii3

Hockey Role Model??

Hockey Role Model Part 2

So based on this any sport with an unsuitable role model is????????

NFL

OJ Simpson - Kidnapping, armed robbery
Lawrence Phillips - Assault with a deadly weapon
Michael Vick - Conspiracy
Dwayne Goodrich - criminally negligent homicide

MLB

Pete Rose - Tax Evasion
Darryl Strawberry - battery, drug possession, solicitation
Ugueth Urbina - Attempted Murder
Dwight Gooden - evading police, drug possession, drug trafficking

NBA

Allen Iverson - maiming by mob
Tom Pane - Rape (multiple convictions)
Charles Smith - homicide
Ruben Patterson - Rape

Boxing

Riddick Bowe - Kidnapping
Mike Tyson - Narcotics, DUI, Rape, Road Rage
Tommy Morrison - multiple weapons charges and trafficking
Rubin Carter - Murder



Hockey and every other sport has its share of people that do not put the sport in the best light, but that in and of itself does not make the sport bad nor does it mean that all the athletes in that sport should be painted with the same brush. In fact it puts more emphasis on the judiciary bodies within each sport to work harder to maintain a standard by which all athletes should be measured.

[acruce]

A local radio station did an interview with Dave Tippet today. It doesn't sound like Avery will play another game in here in Dallas . If he has any say so in the matter. Although it will ultimately be Tom Hicks decision as to whether he has a future here in Dallas.

[icehog3]

Some interesting conversation between ESPN analysts here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3747370

[Flatsix]

Thanks for the ESPN link Tom, I always appreciate the perspective of Pierre LeBrun. He is a great asset to hockey.

On the suspension, that's the way that I thought it would go down. Meeting with league officials a minor suspension and he's on his way. Dallas may or may not keep him around, it's not like he could help them or hurt their season at this point, there is now way they will contend for a division or cup this year so do what best suits the team.

Sean's next team may be a minor market affiliate of the Stars. I don't see how another NHL team could justify the risk of signing a player that conducts himself this way on and off the ice.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Flatsix

Thanks for the ESPN link Tom, I always appreciate the perspective of Pierre LeBrun. He is a great asset to hockey.

On the suspension, that's the way that I thought it would go down. Meeting with league officials a minor suspension and he's on his way. Dallas may or may not keep him around, it's not like he could help them or hurt their season at this point, there is now way they will contend for a division or cup this year so do what best suits the team.

Sean's next team may be a minor market affiliate of the Stars. I don't see how another NHL team could justify the risk of signing a player that conducts himself this way on and off the ice.

Gotta agree with you Gregg...the Stars can either put him on waivers and send him to the minors, or buy him out in June...but then they would still suffer the salary cap hit.

A new LeBrun blog just got posted:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/...=lebrun_pierre

[loki]

did I read this right....they are sending him to anger management?

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by loki

did I read this right....they are sending him to anger management?

He offered to go, it was his suggestion.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by ESPN.com

By announcing Sunday morning that the troubled forward was not going to return to the team, the Stars formally ended the brief, expensive Sean Avery Era in Dallas.

And that, my friends, is that.

[Mr.Maduro]

Adios!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl,128953

I'm glad to see this kind of thing finally happening in professional sports. My son watches the NFL, NHL and MLB all the time, and the last thing he needs to see is guys like that. How do you teach a kid good sportsmanship when this is what they see? I'm a diehard Ranger fan, and as much as I hate the Devils, the crap he pulled last year in the crease in front of Brodeur made me sick.

I think as a professional athlete, you should watch what you say, you shouldn't bring guns to night clubs, etc.

[loki]

Originally Posted by rhdad42

I'm glad to see this kind of thing finally happening in professional sports. My son watches the NFL, NHL and MLB all the time, and the last thing he needs to see is guys like that. How do you teach a kid good sportsmanship when this is what they see? I'm a diehard Ranger fan, and as much as I hate the Devils, the crap he pulled last year in the crease in front of Brodeur made me sick.

I think as a professional athlete, you should watch what you say, you shouldn't bring guns to night clubs, etc.

the stuff with brodeur didn't bother me much...however the replay + finger was a bit much.

[Partagaspete]

Originally Posted by icehog3

I believe the League stated that Avery's suspension is harsh because of numerous prior incidents which he was not suspended for.

While it may look harsh on its face, I believe in Karma....Sean finally got what has been coming to him for a while....and the suspension will be the least of it.

I think you my friend are on to something here. Avery has a history on and off the ice. So maybe they are trying to send him a message so he doesn't end up like what's his name from Calgary in the 90's. I can still see his stupid little face. He alone made me hate the Flames. Talk about a head case and he pretty much got himself tossed outta the league. Sorry for rambling but I am really trying to remember that Arse's name...

Back to Avery though it show's a lot that his own team don't want him. Please lord let the Isles pass on any opportunity to pick this head case up. Thank you.

T

[Flatsix]

I hear the Bakersfield Condors are looking for an agitator left winger to fill out the their energy line.

Seriously though, it's probably a good thing that the NHL took the high road on this one. Seems theres a lot of high paid athletes doing some really dumb stuff lately.