2013 MLB Hall of Fame ballot

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Stephen

I couldn't have said it any better myself...

Interesting read, thanks Stephen.

[pnoon]

Nobody got in?!?!?!

They could have at least given Ray Lewis the Humanitarian Award.


















I know. I'm sad and pathetic.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by pnoon

Nobody got in?!?!?!

They could have at least given Ray Lewis the Humanitarian Award.

Ray Lewis would kill to get into the Hall of Fame.

[STEVE S]

I guess the list was so controversial that the voters (writers), couldn't even get one person voted in. How sad is that??

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by pnoon

Nobody got in?!?!?!

They could have at least given Ray Lewis the Humanitarian Award.



I know. I'm sad and pathetic.

Not to mention rude and unattractive.

[icehog3]

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/88...clemens-denied

[OLS]

Actually they should have voted the entire steroid class in at one time, rigged the balloting and all to do it,
then erected a special room JUST for them...a closet of sorts. That way if everybody would play clean,
we could just move on. But what would I care, baseball escapes me.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by icehog3

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/88...clemens-denied

Gossage and Eckersley piping up about this is irony at its finest.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by OLS

Actually they should have voted the entire steroid class in at one time, rigged the balloting and all to do it,
then erected a special room JUST for them...a closet of sorts. That way if everybody would play clean,
we could just move on. But what would I care, baseball escapes me.

Do we also get a, "greenies" wing, a, "doctored the ball" wing, and a, "played prior to segregation" wing, too? It's a museum, not a choir loft.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Gossage and Eckersley piping up about this is irony at its finest.

Backround, please....What were Eckersley and Gossage's "vices"?

[The Poet]

Originally Posted by OLS

But what would I care, baseball escapes me.

Score that an "E-6" on your cards, kids.

[gorob23]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Backround, please....What were Eckersley and Gossage's "vices"?

They hated the cold! They played them game the right way....

Rob

[14holestogie]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Not to mention rude and unattractive.

I typed out that same reply a couple of times but thought better of it.

But, I concur.

[pnoon]

Bless you all.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Backround, please....What were Eckersley and Gossage's "vices"?

Gossage was long rumored to doctor the ball, and since apparently all we need now our allegations...

But more to the point. Both Gossage and Eckersley were in that Oakland clubhouse (Eckersley more so than Gossage) when the Bash Brothers & Co. were doing their thing (and both benefiting might I add). I won't go so far as to say that they were complicit by their silence, but if they didn't speak up then, they come off as self-righteous b!tches sounding off 20 years later.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Gossage was long rumored to doctor the ball, and since apparently all we need now our allegations...

*are* not *our*. Blasted 15 minute time limit edit.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Gossage was long rumored to doctor the ball, and since apparently all we need now our allegations...

But more to the point. Both Gossage and Eckersley were in that Oakland clubhouse (Eckersley more so than Gossage) when the Bash Brothers & Co. were doing their thing (and both benefiting might I add). I won't go so far as to say that they were complicit by their silence, but if they didn't speak up then, they come off as self-righteous b!tches sounding off 20 years later.

Thanks, Stephen.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Thanks, Stephen.

No problem, boss. I know I'm in the minority in all of this, but I must say, it is a a tad entertaining to see the BWAA voters catch some blowback over how this has been handled.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Stephen

No problem, boss. I know I'm in the minority in all of this, but I must say, it is a a tad entertaining to see the BWAA voters catch some blowback over how this has been handled.

Yup, I am no fan of the writers associatrion either.

[jonumberone]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Gossage was long rumored to doctor the ball, and since apparently all we need now our allegations...

But more to the point. Both Gossage and Eckersley were in that Oakland clubhouse (Eckersley more so than Gossage) when the Bash Brothers & Co. were doing their thing (and both benefiting might I add). I won't go so far as to say that they were complicit by their silence, but if they didn't speak up then, they come off as self-righteous b!tches sounding off 20 years later.

To be fair I've never heard of Gossage doctoring the ball.
Also, Gossage didn't get to Oakland until 92' and left in 93'.
92' was Canseco's last year in Oakland, as he was traded at the deadline.
In 93',Gossage's last year, Mcguire only played 27 games for the A's.
I understand your point of "all we need now are allegations", and I'll give you your gripe with Eckersley, but to lump Gossage in with to your argument, is painting with too broad a brush.

I'm glad you bring up the bash brothers.
It seems to me, a lot of people think the steroids era started in 98, when Sosa and McGuire both broke the record.
I clearly remember allegations against McGuire, Canseco and the like, going back to 87' when Mcguire hit 49 HR as a rookie, and 88' when Canseco became the first member of the 40/40 club.
I wonder why the writers haven't held steroids against players that played in the late 80's - early 90's?