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Old 03-29-2012, 06:30 AM   #1
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Have been smoking cigars since 1980. I smoke some CCs, but predominantly NCs. I like both, but I'd say the majority of my rotation is made up of NCs.

All you need to do though, it make your palate happy, so smoke what you like.

If you're going to be a band smoker (someone smoking cigars so that everybody else will see the band and know what your smoking), all you'll ever be is miserable. And that is true for anything in life that you do to impress or look good to others.

Be yourself. Smoke/eat/drink/wear/drive what you like, and enjoy it.

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I love CCs because they have so many wonderful small ring gauges available for a great price. I have been smoking strickly CCs for the last few weeks and am loving what I am finding. I will always be sucked back to NCs for great sticks like the L40 & FFP though. I prefer CCs most of the time as I do not feel the need to eat a large meal before hand like I do for many strong NCs.
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in my experience the people that "only smoke Cubans" are full of it. after about 30 seconds of cigar discussion they show that they know virtually ZERO about cigars, let alone Cuban cigars.



...and their source is almost always "a friend of a friend who has family in Cuba"
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I smoke mainly Cubans, but like some NCs as well. So I guess I'm only partially full of it.
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in my experience the people that "only smoke Cubans" are full of it. after about 30 seconds of cigar discussion they show that they know virtually ZERO about cigars, let alone Cuban cigars.



...and their source is almost always "a friend of a friend who has family in Cuba"
I totally agree!!


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in my experience the people that "only smoke Cubans" are full of it. after about 30 seconds of cigar discussion they show that they know virtually ZERO about cigars, let alone Cuban cigars.



...and their source is almost always "a friend of a friend who has family in Cuba"
Funny how here at Cigar Asylum, the people who only (or mostly) smoke Cubans tell everyone to "smoke what you like" and don't judge, but this apparently NC only smoker comes in and insults the Cuban smokers for their tastes, basically calling them liars, stupid, and idiots.

If that's the way things are in the circles you run in, so be it. Here at CA, you're barking up the wrong tree. Without knowing you, I am willing to bet that many of my Cuban smoking friends here have forgotten more about cigars than you'll ever know. Sorry to be insulting, but you have insulted my friends.
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in my experience the people that "only smoke Cubans" are full of it.
I only smoke Cubans.

Of course, YES, I AM full of it, ask anyone. But I only smoke cubans, nonetheless.


Now YES, I DO have a blog where I have smoked some NC cigars, but people gave them to me and I felt like
there was no better way to thank them and to prove it got smoked than to blog about it. But I do not buy
them, I do not encourage people to give them to me, and a lot of times when they force me to take them
anyway, they end up in Iraq of Afghanistan. It was said somewhere above this that the modern day NC seems
to be in a struggle to be the strongest or pepperiest. Neither of these are enjoyable to me. And unless you
are Fuente or Padron, you seem to have trouble making an interesting cigar that is also mild to medium. So
when it comes down to it, I do not smoke NCs because they do not taste good to me.
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Old 03-29-2012, 01:51 PM   #11
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It was said somewhere above this that the modern day NC seems to be in a struggle to be the strongest or pepperiest. Neither of these are enjoyable to me. And unless you are Fuente or Padron, you seem to have trouble making an interesting cigar that is also mild to medium. So when it comes down to it, I do not smoke NCs because they do not taste good to me.
This is exactly my take on it too. There are a lot of NC's that I've never tried but most those that I have tend to be very one dimensional. There's no subtlety or nuance, it's like going to a Thai restaurant where they are so intent on making the food hot and spicy that they loose the flavours of the food itself.

Like everyone else said, smoke whatever appeals to your individual tastes but for mine money that's going to be a Cuban 9 or 10 times.... and my "source" is not a 'friend of a friend with family in Cuba'
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:45 AM   #12
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in my experience the people that "only smoke Cubans" are full of it. after about 30 seconds of cigar discussion they show that they know virtually ZERO about cigars, let alone Cuban cigars.

...and their source is almost always "a friend of a friend who has family in Cuba"

Knowing a lot about cigars hardly precludes one's subjective taste preferences from being perfectly legitimate. After several years in the hobby, I still consider myself a noob when it comes to knowing about cigars, both in terms of the industry and the science, but I'm pretty confident in my ability to determine a good cigar from a bad one.

Your personal experience with people who only smoke Cubans is vastly different than mine. Nearly every BOTL I know who exclusively smokes Cubans has smoked a ton of cigars over the years and has decided on their preference after a lot of experience, and at that point, they've been around long enough to have established good connections and reliable vendors.

I'm going to assume your interactions must be with snobby, rich people who smoke to look cool, not people who smoke because they actually enjoy the experience, and I don't see how they could smoke Cubans regularly without a reliable vendor. Most BOTLS I know who exclusively smoke Cubans can only do so because they have a reliable network of vendors.
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Knowing a lot about cigars hardly precludes one's subjective taste preferences from being perfectly legitimate. After several years in the hobby, I still consider myself a noob when it comes to knowing about cigars, both in terms of the industry and the science, but I'm pretty confident in my ability to determine a good cigar from a bad one.

Your personal experience with people who only smoke Cubans is vastly different than mine. Nearly every BOTL I know who exclusively smokes Cubans has smoked a ton of cigars over the years and has decided on their preference after a lot of experience, and at that point, they've been around long enough to have established good connections and reliable vendors.

I'm going to assume your interactions must be with snobby, rich people who smoke to look cool, not people who smoke because they actually enjoy the experience, and I don't see how they could smoke Cubans regularly without a reliable vendor. Most BOTLS I know who exclusively smoke Cubans can only do so because they have a reliable network of vendors.
Leave it to a newer BOTL here to say it more eloquently than I did.
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in my experience the people that "only smoke Cubans" are full of it. after about 30 seconds of cigar discussion they show that they know virtually ZERO about cigars, let alone Cuban cigars.



...and their source is almost always "a friend of a friend who has family in Cuba"
So sorry to hear about your experience.
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in my experience the people that "only smoke Cubans" are full of it. after about 30 seconds of cigar discussion they show that they know virtually ZERO about cigars, let alone Cuban cigars.



...and their source is almost always "a friend of a friend who has family in Cuba"
Pretty broad generalization, IMO. I have quite the opposite experience.
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in my experience the people that "only smoke Cubans" are full of it. after about 30 seconds of cigar discussion they show that they know virtually ZERO about cigars, let alone Cuban cigars.



...and their source is almost always "a friend of a friend who has family in Cuba"
A very broad statement... it's pretty obvious you have never met anyone from this board
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in my experience the people that "only smoke Cubans" are full of it. after about 30 seconds of cigar discussion they show that they know virtually ZERO about cigars, let alone Cuban cigars.



...and their source is almost always "a friend of a friend who has family in Cuba"
You probably meet a lot of local people in B&M's. I've heard a lot of wild stories there as well. "I went to costa rica and for $5 I could smoke all the cubans I wanted". Or "I got this glass top box of cohibas are they real?".

Just because people smoke nothing but Cuban Cigars doesn't mean they are experts in the cigar world or know more than someone else. They just have a different cigar preference, that's all.

The CA community as a whole is much different. Plenty of people here smoke nothing but CC's, I don't find anyone here to be particularly elitist or having a poor attitude because of it. To think so would be a mistake.

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I prefer CCs most of the time as I do not feel the need to eat a large meal before hand like I do for many strong NCs.
I have no experiance with CC's. Does this mean they are less on the strong side?
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I have no experiance with CC's. Does this mean they are less on the strong side?
I would say a full bodied CC is maybe a medium to medium full bodied NC. As far as I know there are no FFP/Pork Tenderloin/Liga Privada FULL FULL bodied CC's. I could be wrong and If I am there are VERY few.

In general strength is not something CC's go for. Flavor however is.
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I would say a full bodied CC is maybe a medium to medium full bodied NC. As far as I know there are no FFP/Pork Tenderloin/Liga Privada FULL FULL bodied CC's. I could be wrong and If I am there are VERY few.

In general strength is not something CC's go for. Flavor however is.
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