First Firearm Thread.

[Remo]

Originally Posted by cigarmonkel

Then I would HAVE to buy a rifle... I like the position it puts me in. Let me know when you order one and ill probably be in!

Ok, I thought you had a rifle

[cigarmonkel]

Not yet. I've been wanting to build my own ar15 though for awhile. Its either that or a 1911 and since I have a pistol now it'll probably be the ar15 build

[Remo]

Originally Posted by cigarmonkel

Not yet. I've been wanting to build my own ar15 though for awhile. Its either that or a 1911 and since I have a pistol now it'll probably be the ar15 build

Build away, now that HOPEFULLY prices will not be so crazy since the AWB was scrapped.

[cigarmonkel]

Thankfully! I might end up just going with a bushmaster or dpms though. I'm already in the process of starting my reloadig bench so to add another bench with all the tools might be too much.

[Lockspur]

Originally Posted by Remo

Build away, now that HOPEFULLY prices will not be so crazy since the AWB was scrapped.

Doubt it. People are still feeding the frenzy. Went to the gun show last month and was SICKENED at the gouging.

Concerning AR's, I HIGHLY recommend building your own lower, then buying a complete upper. That's how I built my Spike's Tactical AR. I used Magpul MOE furniture and Spike's lightweight upper. Weighs 10 pounds loaded with a 30-round mag.

[Chainsaw13]

Originally Posted by cigarmonkel

Thankfully! I might end up just going with a bushmaster or dpms though. I'm already in the process of starting my reloadig bench so to add another bench with all the tools might be too much.

Here's a decent deal on a DPMS.

http://www.lanworldinc.com/index.php...art&Itemid=116

Never dealt with them, but they're a vendor on AR15.com.

[GolfNut]

Here's a pic of what my Wife wanted for her 25th Wedding anniversary (Hey, it's got silver on it...)
Kimber CDP II .45


It took her about two days to realize she didn't want to share and said "You know, we should really get you a new gun too" lol, so back to the store on Sunday and I came home with a Sig Sauer P250C .45 that I'm really enjoying. Point and pull, it hits what you aim at.

[cigarmonkel]

Nice pick ups!! The 1911 has always been one of my favorites. Tons of history and just an amazing gun!

[forgop]

Shop around for deals. Check out slickguns.com for deals/in-stock sightings and ar15.com. They have threads there devoted to finding uppers, lowers, BCG's, and mags.

[cricky101]

Originally Posted by cigarmonkel

Nice pick ups!! The 1911 has always been one of my favorites. Tons of history and just an amazing gun!

I'm saving up for a ruger sr1911 right now. It'll be my first 1911. A buddy of mine has one and I need to get my own to shoot.

[cigarmonkel]

I watched some ar15 builds on youtube and it seems easy enough. Hardest part for me will be not losing the springs and pins haha. If I don't build me own I have my eyes set on the m&p 15-T. Otherwise from what I've heard and understand (correct me if I'm wrong) is the lower can be made of cheaper parts but the upper is what really matters? I would definitely stick with bigger name brand parts and if I build it, it won't be a cheap. But if I was to save money would it be on the lower?

[Steelerfanatic]

Picked up a used Kel Tec Sub 2k Glock 17 model with three mags. Gonna take it out and give it a run this weekend. Now if I can only find the elusive PMR-30 by obession with Kel Tec will be over........for now.

[Mark C]

Ok, the more I think about my trigger options the more I'm not sure which direction to go. Which one of these options would you go with?


1. ALG Milspec trigger + misc lpk + KNS antiroll pins + JP Springs ($130)
2. Spikes enhanced LPK ($200)
3. Misc lpk + Geissele SSA + KNS antiroll pins ($250)

I'm a fan of a Bill Springfield's trigger work: http://www.triggerwork.net/arparts.html

Depending on pull weight preference (2.5, 3, or 4 lbs) it'll run you $89-109 for the trigger group parts. I've got the 2.5 lb group on a target gun and I love it, don't think you can come anywhere close to this without doubling the price.

[Mark C]

Originally Posted by cigarmonkel

...so to add another bench with all the tools might be too much.

Originally Posted by cigarmonkel

I watched some ar15 builds on youtube and it seems easy enough. Hardest part for me will be not losing the springs and pins haha. ...But if I was to save money would it be on the lower?

I've built three AR lowers on my kitchen island, you don't need a bench. If I remember right, the only tools necessary are a few punches, a hammer, an AR-15 armorer's wrench, a screwdriver or hex wrench (depending on grip choice), and a block of wood. The last one only took an hour. You're right about the springs. Not a bad idea to buy an extra detent pin & spring, or two or three. If you have to buy it after your parts kit, paying $8 shipping on a $2 part will drive you mad, but it's not so bad if it's all together.

You won't really save much money building a lower, maybe $100 at best (full disclosure - it's been at least 6 months since I checked prices). What you will get is the opportunity to build exactly what you want. No sense buying a basic lower and then swapping out the grip, stock, trigger, etc. Build it yourself and you're not buying parts you won't use.

If you're in one of the soon-to-be 'ban states', make sure you at least get your stripped lower ASAP.

[cigarmonkel]

Originally Posted by Mark C

I've built three AR lowers on my kitchen island, you don't need a bench. If I remember right, the only tools necessary are a few punches, a hammer, an AR-15 armorer's wrench, a screwdriver or hex wrench (depending on grip choice), and a block of wood. The last one only took an hour. You're right about the springs. Not a bad idea to buy an extra detent pin & spring, or two or three. If you have to buy it after your parts kit, paying $8 shipping on a $2 part will drive you mad, but it's not so bad if it's all together.

You won't really save much money building a lower, maybe $100 at best (full disclosure - it's been at least 6 months since I checked prices). What you will get is the opportunity to build exactly what you want. No sense buying a basic lower and then swapping out the grip, stock, trigger, etc. Build it yourself and you're not buying parts you won't use.

If you're in one of the soon-to-be 'ban states', make sure you at least get your stripped lower ASAP.

Yea the tools are very minimal and I thought you would need a lot more. If I build my own I'm definitely going to build exactly how I want. Some of the premade upper kits though don't look too bad and are exactly what I want. I'm thinking 1-8" turn with a 16" barrel definitely want rails too.

[big pete]

I put this together in about 30min yesterday using a screw driver, adjustable pliers, and a castle nut wrench. Could have finished faster but I was watching the NBA playoffs. This was only the 2nd lower I put together

[Chainsaw13]

Wow, store by me had a LOT of .22 Remington in stock. Picked up 3, 525rnd boxes and 1 50rnd box of Ultramax .223.

[cigarmonkel]

I priced out a rough build and it came out to about 1200. But with any diy build you always figure extra so I'm thinking 13-1500. Which also happens to be how much a m&p 15t would be.. roughly maybe a little less.

[cigarmonkel]

Originally Posted by Chainsaw13

Wow, store by me had a LOT of .22 Remington in stock. Picked up 3, 525rnd boxes and 1 50rnd box of Ultramax .223.

Bob your in the metro area aren't you? We should do a herf'n'shoot sometime!

[Chainsaw13]

Originally Posted by cigarmonkel

Bob your in the metro area aren't you? We should do a herf'n'shoot sometime!

Yep, and I'd be up for it.