*2009 MLB Thread* - Page 27

The Poet · 07-29-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scoot

Now if Amaro will toss Happ, Drabek, and Brown to the Jays for Doc we can go ahead and win back-to-back titles.

Yeah - if they toss in Rollins and Howard as extras maybe.

yourchoice · 07-29-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scoot

Now if Amaro will toss Happ, Drabek, and Brown to the Jays for Doc we can go ahead and win back-to-back titles.

0.05% chance of that, but I think they have a very good chance (3/1 ~ 4/1) with just this move.

Don't forget they finally got a right-handed bat off the bench along with Lee too! Ben Francisco

07-29-2009, 05:23 PM

We are the Wild Card, just took the Pirates at the bottom of the 10th.

Tomorrow starts the series against Philly, it's going to be insane. I'll be at the game Sunday.

scoot · 07-29-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by yourchoice

0.05% chance of that, but I think they have a very good chance (3/1 ~ 4/1) with just this move.

Don't forget they finally got a right-handed bat off the bench along with Lee too! Ben Francisco

Yeah I know, but I think it would be better than keeping Happ and Drabek. Happ is good, but its unlikely that he'll develop into a number one guy, teams are going to start hitting him one they see more of him. Drabek is a prospect and as such is largely unproven, plus he's only 21 and has already had Tommy John surgery. I'd gladly give them both away for Halladay in the rotation for the remainder of this year and next season. It would make the likelihood of a world championship that much higher. Plus he'd be more than likely to resign if he gets a ring while he's here.

But, the big downside to Halladay is his 15M+ contract for next year which Amaro will almost definitely not take on after getting Lee and with other financial issues, such as Blanton, to handle. I'd still love to see it happen though.

scoot · 07-29-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet

Yeah - if they toss in Rollins and Howard as extras maybe.

No, they would most likely accept as it was the Jays original offer.

yourchoice · 07-29-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by scoot

Yeah I know, but I think it would be better than keeping Happ and Drabek. Happ is good, but its unlikely that he'll develop into a number one guy, teams are going to start hitting him one they see more of him. Drabek is a prospect and as such is largely unproven, plus he's only 21 and has already had Tommy John surgery. I'd gladly give them both away for Halladay in the rotation for the remainder of this year and next season. It would make the likelihood of a world championship that much higher. Plus he'd be more than likely to resign if he gets a ring while he's here.

But, the big downside to Halladay is his 15M+ contract for next year which Amaro will almost definitely not take on after getting Lee and with other financial issues, such as Blanton, to handle. I'd still love to see it happen though.

For the most part, I agree. Happ is a major league pitcher, but probably realistically will develop into a solid 3. Drabek is supposedly a stud (top of the rotation guy) but actually, I think he's had two surgeries (one in HS). The guy you left out that the Jays wanted, Brown, is supposedly a super prospect too. From what I heard he's one of three outfielders presently in A ball who is projected to be a MLB All-Star (a guy in the Braves system and a guy in the Marlins system are the other two). It would have been an awful lot for Doc, but I still would have loved to got him. If last year's AL Cy Young winner was the back-up plan, I'm not complaining.

It's crazy to think this is the same ownership that was in place in the late '90s.

07-30-2009, 12:25 PM

So we traded Tim Alderson for Freddy Sanchez.

I am not 100% behind this trade.

I have concerns about Sanchez and his knee problems, though he bats .300 for his career. We can def use some hitters.

Alderson was a good prospect pitcher, but we have enough pitchers.

My biggest concern again, is Sanchez's knee problems.

yourchoice · 07-30-2009, 12:37 PM

There's a report that Manny and Ortiz were both on the list of those who tested positive in 2003.

Link.

Let's see what spin Faux-Sox Nation has!

The only thing I'd rather hear less than that is what the Weasel Empire has to add!

07-30-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by yourchoice

There's a report that Manny and Ortiz were both on the list of those who tested positive in 2003.

Link.

Let's see what spin Faux-Sox Nation has!

The only thing I'd rather not hear is what the Weasel Empire has to add!

Good!

Now they need to be barred from the HOF.

kelmac07 · 07-30-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell

So we traded Tim Alderson for Freddy Sanchez.

I am not 100% behind this trade.

I have concerns about Sanchez and his knee problems, though he bats .300 for his career. We can def use some hitters.

Alderson was a good prospect pitcher, but we have enough pitchers.

My biggest concern again, is Sanchez's knee problems.

But Sanchez is a gamer, excellent hitter and he plugs the hole at second for the Giants...they have PLENTY of pitching already. I think this trade makes you guys stronger.

PeteSB75 · 07-30-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell

Good!

Now they need to be barred from the HOF.

Now we need to bar everyone who played before 2004. Because they were ALL using them.

MedicCook · 07-30-2009, 12:51 PM

The Yankees are looking to pick up Corey Patterson off wavers since Gardner is out with a broken hand for a while.

VirtualSmitty · 07-30-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook

The Yankees are looking to pick up Corey Patterson off wavers since Gardner is out with a broken hand for a while.

Bah, he sucks. Not even the freakin' Nats wanted him

MedicCook · 07-30-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

Bah, he sucks. Not even the freakin' Nats wanted him

Off of waivers he is pretty much free to the Yankees and they could use another bench player while Gardner is out. It would be a no lose pick up.

VirtualSmitty · 07-30-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook

Off of waivers he is pretty much free to the Yankees and they could use another bench player while Gardner is out. It would be a no lose pick up.

I'd rather see them bring up Austin Jackson or give Shelley Duncan another chance.

MedicCook · 07-30-2009, 01:04 PM

Austin Jackson needs to be playing everyday though. I think he has a great shot at opening day roster in 2010 though.

VirtualSmitty · 07-30-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook

Austin Jackson needs to be playing everyday though. I think he has a great shot at opening day roster in 2010 though.

Eh, I don't think a trip to the majors would be a bad thing for him. If they platooned him on and off with Melky he'd get enough at bats. Patterson just seems like a waste of time, Gardener is only going to be gone for two weeks.

07-30-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07

But Sanchez is a gamer, excellent hitter and he plugs the hole at second for the Giants...they have PLENTY of pitching already. I think this trade makes you guys stronger.

Aren't you concerned about the knee?

The Poet · 07-30-2009, 03:57 PM

Mike's Mets were rained out last night. Too bad. Not only were they on a roll, I heard that Omar Minaya was scheduled to throw out the ceremonial first reporter.

VirtualSmitty · 07-30-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell

Aren't you concerned about the knee?

Well worth the risk. The Giants need bats, they won't miss one pitching prospect. And Sanchez can hit, I think it was a pretty good trade.

Dodgers picked up Sherill today. Good move, he was pretty tough on hitters here in the AL East.

07-29-2009, 05:23 PM	#523
Darrell Guest Posts: n/a	Re: 2009 MLB Thread We are the Wild Card, just took the Pirates at the bottom of the 10th. Tomorrow starts the series against Philly, it's going to be insane. I'll be at the game Sunday.

07-30-2009, 12:25 PM	#527
Darrell Guest Posts: n/a	Re: 2009 MLB Thread So we traded Tim Alderson for Freddy Sanchez. I am not 100% behind this trade. I have concerns about Sanchez and his knee problems, though he bats .300 for his career. We can def use some hitters. Alderson was a good prospect pitcher, but we have enough pitchers. My biggest concern again, is Sanchez's knee problems.

07-30-2009, 12:37 PM	#528
yourchoice Down the stretch Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joel Location: South Jersey Posts: 4,091 Trading: (36)	Re: 2009 MLB Thread There's a report that Manny and Ortiz were both on the list of those who tested positive in 2003. Link. Let's see what spin Faux-Sox Nation has! The only thing I'd rather hear less than that is what the Weasel Empire has to add!

07-30-2009, 12:51 PM	#532
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: 2009 MLB Thread The Yankees are looking to pick up Corey Patterson off wavers since Gardner is out with a broken hand for a while. __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

07-30-2009, 01:04 PM	#536
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: 2009 MLB Thread Austin Jackson needs to be playing everyday though. I think he has a great shot at opening day roster in 2010 though. __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

07-30-2009, 03:57 PM	#539
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: 2009 MLB Thread Mike's Mets were rained out last night. Too bad. Not only were they on a roll, I heard that Omar Minaya was scheduled to throw out the ceremonial first reporter.