stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet - Page 27

dunng · 03-16-2009, 08:20 AM

icehog3 · 03-16-2009, 08:46 AM

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dunng · 03-16-2009, 08:51 AM

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Hmm... I don't remember this scene form Office Space...

md4958 · 03-16-2009, 09:05 AM

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Hmm... I don't remember this scene form Office Space...

how do you think the horses head got into that guys bed in the Godfather??

03-16-2009, 09:12 AM

Luciuswand you demonstrated the business principle I was trying to convey better than I did. Which is why I'm not a writer I guess. While the parallel may not be exact the principle is the same (hope I used the write principle/principal there. Oh yeah the princiPAL if your friend. Well as long as you weren't bad like me). No conspiracy just business.

icehog3 · 03-16-2009, 09:20 AM

Comparing cigar making and dress making is like comparing......well, cigar making and dress making. I understand the concept, but don't believe it applies in the cigar business.

Ah, crap....I just whacked the horse again.

Scottw · 03-16-2009, 09:24 AM

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Comparing cigar making and dress making is like comparing......well, cigar making and dress making. I understand the concept, but don't believe it applies in the cigar business.

Ah, crap....I just whacked the horse again.

freekin' hilarious Tom.

taltos · 03-16-2009, 09:52 AM

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Comparing cigar making and dress making is like comparing......well, cigar making and dress making. I understand the concept, but don't believe it applies in the cigar business.

Ah, crap....I just whacked the horse again.

Does this mean that all real cigar smokers (as opposed to puffers) wear dresses? This could mean that Peter is one of the few real cigar smokers here.

03-16-2009, 10:05 AM

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youve never apologized before, even when most people DISAGREE with you!

I'm not really sorry, I was just being cordial.

borndead1 · 03-16-2009, 10:06 AM

This thread is STILL going?

I am tempted to turn it political so it gets shut down.

HK3- · 03-16-2009, 10:15 AM

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This thread is STILL going?

I am tempted to turn it political so it gets shut down.

What would O'bama do?

03-16-2009, 10:16 AM

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What would O'bama do?

Their is no apostrophe in Obama, just FYI.

HK3- · 03-16-2009, 10:17 AM

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Their is no apostrophe in Obama, just FYI.

Sorry. I mean Osama.

Da Klugs · 03-16-2009, 10:26 AM

If you go back to the original post.... there could be validity in it.

Say for example a cigar Mfg like Torano who makes cigars for others is commissioned to make a "line" for one of the online guys. Figure the price may come into play there. Lesser value materials used because of the price point demanded. Always wondered what the relationship in the wholesale price was ... Labor vs material costs.

Conversely, the concept of "brand" is pretty important to most manufacturers. Their name is on the darn things. To purposely make a product that varies in quality by where you buy it does not make much sense and is hard to believe from a business owners perspective. Different cigar name band etc sure, but not the identical cigar.

Most cigars are not purchased directly from the manufacturers but through distributors. These distributors are typically the ones setting price points and determining physically which cigars go where.

Maybe the OP just prefers the flavors over humidification provides in most B&M's vs cigars from a home humidor.

taltos · 03-16-2009, 10:26 AM

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Their is no apostrophe in Obama, just FYI.

Maybe there should be. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xkw8ip43Vk

borndead1 · 03-16-2009, 10:27 AM

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Sorry. I mean Osama.

How dare you criticize The Obamessiah!

landhoney · 03-16-2009, 10:40 AM

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I am tempted to turn it political so it gets shut down.

Now that is thinking outside the box.

03-16-2009, 12:22 PM

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Most cigars are not purchased directly from the manufacturers but through distributors. These distributors are typically the ones setting price points and determining physically which cigars go where.

This is a pretty big assumption. In talking with the owner at my lounge. He does get few from distributors but orders from the manufacturer on most. And I believe(at least it would make sense) that the big internet guys do too.

WildBlueSooner · 03-16-2009, 12:27 PM

Lets get back to cigars and dresses

03-16-2009, 12:33 PM

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This is a pretty big assumption. In talking with the owner at my lounge. He does get few from distributors but orders from the manufacturer on most. And I believe(at least it would make sense) that the big internet guys do too.

I wish I could say you were wrong. However, working at a B&M, we order 90% off our stock straight from Avo, LFD, Tatuaje, Oliva, etc. We have a couple of big distributors we deal with i.e. General and Altadis. However, most of our stuff as I said, comes from the companies themselves.

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03-16-2009, 09:12 AM	#525
Legend Guest Posts: n/a	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet Luciuswand you demonstrated the business principle I was trying to convey better than I did. Which is why I'm not a writer I guess. While the parallel may not be exact the principle is the same (hope I used the write principle/principal there. Oh yeah the princiPAL if your friend. Well as long as you weren't bad like me). No conspiracy just business.

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icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,308 Trading: (60)	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet Comparing cigar making and dress making is like comparing......well, cigar making and dress making. I understand the concept, but don't believe it applies in the cigar business. Ah, crap....I just whacked the horse again. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

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borndead1 Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,345 Trading: (7)	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet This thread is STILL going? I am tempted to turn it political so it gets shut down.

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Da Klugs Juan of 11 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Right here Posts: 4,222 Trading: (8)	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet If you go back to the original post.... there could be validity in it. Say for example a cigar Mfg like Torano who makes cigars for others is commissioned to make a "line" for one of the online guys. Figure the price may come into play there. Lesser value materials used because of the price point demanded. Always wondered what the relationship in the wholesale price was ... Labor vs material costs. Conversely, the concept of "brand" is pretty important to most manufacturers. Their name is on the darn things. To purposely make a product that varies in quality by where you buy it does not make much sense and is hard to believe from a business owners perspective. Different cigar name band etc sure, but not the identical cigar. Most cigars are not purchased directly from the manufacturers but through distributors. These distributors are typically the ones setting price points and determining physically which cigars go where. Maybe the OP just prefers the flavors over humidification provides in most B&M's vs cigars from a home humidor. __________________ Communities Not Commodities. Punctuation challenged, but trying. Proud winner of phase 1 of the Weight loss contest

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WildBlueSooner I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: James Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,322 Trading: (19)	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet Lets get back to cigars and dresses __________________ "To dilute the will to win is to destroy the purpose of the game. There is no substitute for victory"-- Douglas MacArthur