The Wine Thread - Page 26

pnoon · 09-30-2014, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

"feminine" style of port.

What does that mean? I've never heard that term used for wine beofre.

Gabe215 · 09-30-2014, 02:07 PM

Thank you for the info, maybe I'll see if they have a 750 ml bottle, I didn't notice if they had a smaller bottle as I couldn't take my eyes off the magnum. I might be able to finish it off in 4-5 days if I have guests over, I've developed a love for port but that's a lot in a short amount of time, maybe wait to open during holidays! Vintage ports have driven corks correct? Also I bought one of these, will this do the trick for decanting, haven't used it yet I got this for an unfiltered LBV I have yet to open?
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mosesbotbol · 10-01-2014, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

What does that mean? I've never heard that term used for wine beofre.

Softer, elegant, "pretty", finesse vs. a more brutish powerful style like Taylor. The most common producers that are known to have a feminine style or port are Ferreira and Warres. This is not negative term to describe wine at all.

pektel · 10-13-2014, 07:18 AM

I haven't had port in a couple years. Now I know what I'll be looking for tonight after work.

mosesbotbol · 10-13-2014, 01:24 PM

Wow, that magnum looks awesome and Vesuvio is pretty good too. I have a 6 pack foot locker of the '08 Vesuvio, but have never tried one. I like to wait 20 years before opening a Vintage port.

I visited Quinta Vesuvio in 2010, what a majestic property. For those who don't know, the Douro valley where port is made is the most awe inspiring wine region there is. Port is grown in schist, on terraced cliffs made hand carved over many centuries. It's one of the greatest feats by mankind and could never be done again. You will have a life long fondness and appreciation of port if you ever visit. Port is a relative bargain for the labor and love it takes to make port. Virtually all of the grapes have to be hand picked.

This goes on for 100+ miles along the Douro river!

Gabe215 · 10-13-2014, 05:10 PM

Thanks for the pics, was watching a documentary on YouTube about Port and your right the Duoro Valley looks majestic and one place I would love to visit one day! I have a feeling I won't be able wait 16 years to open that port, one day I hope to be on your level Moses!! I just got a new job today with a senior role drinking Catena Malbec!

mosesbotbol · 10-13-2014, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabe215

Thanks for the pics, was watching a documentary on YouTube about Port and your right the Duoro Valley looks majestic and one place I would love to visit one day! I have a feeling I won't be able wait 16 years to open that port, one day I hope to be on your level Moses!! I just got a new job today with a senior role drinking Catena Malbec!

Congrat's on you new job. If you drink the Vesuvio before then, let it decant over night at least.

If you visit one wine region, the Douro is the place to go. Very old world and not so touristy at all. Heck, they didn't even have electricity out there until 1970's!

Gabe215 · 10-13-2014, 06:21 PM

Thank you, I will be drinking it before then and will do, thanks for the knowledge as always Moses!

mosesbotbol · 10-13-2014, 07:35 PM

In the pictures shown, it takes 2 people (slaves), over a week create a 10 foot section. Imagine the labor and toll it took to create the valley going back to the 12th century.

Gabe215 · 10-17-2014, 05:57 PM

NOBODY TELL MY FIANCÉ THESE WERE A GREAT PRICE BUT STILL EXPENSIVE!!!
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10-17-2014, 08:52 PM

Beautiful bottle of '85 Warre's, Gabe

mosesbotbol · 10-31-2014, 09:38 AM

Speaking on vintage port magnums, I recently picked up a case of 1975 Grahams Vintage Port in its original wooden case (OWC). Haven't had '75 Grahams in a 4-5 years and having a magnum format is pretty rare. Not their best vintage, but by itself is quite lovely.

Picked up 4-5 other cases of port, but that is another post...

mc808 · 11-01-2014, 12:26 AM

One of my all time favorites is the 1955 Taylor. I was fortunate enough to taste it several times. The oldest port I tasted was a 1890 Dow but it was a little past it's prime.

Gabe215 · 11-01-2014, 11:36 PM

Moses, if your willing to offload anything woth while at a somewhat worthwhile price PM me I'd love to cellardive what you have PM me oh master!! Thanks - Gabriel P!!

mosesbotbol · 11-02-2014, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabe215

Moses, if your willing to offload anything woth while at a somewhat worthwhile price PM me I'd love to cellardive what you have PM me oh master!! Thanks - Gabriel P!!

How about if you are in Boston we will share a vintage?

mosesbotbol · 11-02-2014, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mc808

One of my all time favorites is the 1955 Taylor. I was fortunate enough to taste it several times. The oldest port I tasted was a 1890 Dow but it was a little past it's prime.

'55 is a great vintage in general. All the big names had a good bottle that year. I've never had a Dow that old; I think 1900 & 1935 may have been the oldest. Speaking of Dow, I just picked up a case of 1970. Excellent port that does not get as much hype as Taylor, Fonseca and Graham, but should.

It's equal to or better than '63 and costs less. If you want something newer, 1994 or 2003 are great.

mc808 · 11-03-2014, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

'55 is a great vintage in general. All the big names had a good bottle that year. I've never had a Dow that old; I think 1900 & 1935 may have been the oldest. Speaking of Dow, I just picked up a case of 1970. Excellent port that does not get as much hype as Taylor, Fonseca and Graham, but should.

It's equal to or better than '63 and costs less. If you want something newer, 1994 or 2003 are great.

I agree with you on Dow. I consider it one of the Big Four along with Fonseca, Taylor and Graham.

I also like the single quinta ports from these producers as they are great values.

Chainsaw13 · 11-02-2014, 08:50 AM

Every time I come back from Argentina, I get on a small wine kick. Not much of a wine drinker, but I do like Malbec. Been on a hunt to find a bottle of DV Catena. Had it recommended to me, and almost picked up a bottle at the airport.

Stopped by a local store yesterday and picked up a bottle of '08 Fabre Montmayou and '11 Catena. As was explained to me by the gent at the store, the Catena family produces a lot of different wines. So the bottle I picked up isn't the exact one I'm looking for, it should still be good. And I'll be headed back to Argentina in February. Now I just need to grill me up a nice steak.

nutcracker · 11-03-2014, 09:38 AM

Nice pairing - Kobe beef burgery with a nice CNdP (La Vieu Telegraph)

The La Crau is a 2006, which has aged superbly - nice tannic backbone still there and an excellent balance of mineral and fruit.

Gabe215 · 11-12-2014, 04:12 PM

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09-30-2014, 02:07 PM	#2
Gabe215 Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2012 First Name: Gabe Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,120 Trading: (20)	Re: The Wine Thread Thank you for the info, maybe I'll see if they have a 750 ml bottle, I didn't notice if they had a smaller bottle as I couldn't take my eyes off the magnum. I might be able to finish it off in 4-5 days if I have guests over, I've developed a love for port but that's a lot in a short amount of time, maybe wait to open during holidays! Vintage ports have driven corks correct? Also I bought one of these, will this do the trick for decanting, haven't used it yet I got this for an unfiltered LBV I have yet to open? [IMG][/IMG]

10-13-2014, 07:18 AM	#4
pektel I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Peter Location: Grand Rapids, MN Posts: 4,320 Trading: (28)	Re: The Wine Thread I haven't had port in a couple years. Now I know what I'll be looking for tonight after work. __________________ The problem is not the problem. The problem is your ATTITUDE about the problem.

10-13-2014, 01:24 PM	#5
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: The Wine Thread Wow, that magnum looks awesome and Vesuvio is pretty good too. I have a 6 pack foot locker of the '08 Vesuvio, but have never tried one. I like to wait 20 years before opening a Vintage port. I visited Quinta Vesuvio in 2010, what a majestic property. For those who don't know, the Douro valley where port is made is the most awe inspiring wine region there is. Port is grown in schist, on terraced cliffs made hand carved over many centuries. It's one of the greatest feats by mankind and could never be done again. You will have a life long fondness and appreciation of port if you ever visit. Port is a relative bargain for the labor and love it takes to make port. Virtually all of the grapes have to be hand picked. This goes on for 100+ miles along the Douro river! __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

10-13-2014, 05:10 PM	#6
Gabe215 Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2012 First Name: Gabe Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,120 Trading: (20)	Re: The Wine Thread Thanks for the pics, was watching a documentary on YouTube about Port and your right the Duoro Valley looks majestic and one place I would love to visit one day! I have a feeling I won't be able wait 16 years to open that port, one day I hope to be on your level Moses!! I just got a new job today with a senior role drinking Catena Malbec!

10-13-2014, 06:21 PM	#8
Gabe215 Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2012 First Name: Gabe Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,120 Trading: (20)	Re: The Wine Thread Thank you, I will be drinking it before then and will do, thanks for the knowledge as always Moses! Last edited by Gabe215; 10-13-2014 at 06:25 PM. Reason: Over wrote

10-13-2014, 07:35 PM	#9
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: The Wine Thread In the pictures shown, it takes 2 people (slaves), over a week create a 10 foot section. Imagine the labor and toll it took to create the valley going back to the 12th century. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

10-17-2014, 05:57 PM	#10
Gabe215 Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2012 First Name: Gabe Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,120 Trading: (20)	Re: The Wine Thread NOBODY TELL MY FIANCÉ THESE WERE A GREAT PRICE BUT STILL EXPENSIVE!!! [IMG][/IMG]

10-17-2014, 08:52 PM	#11
ChicagoWhiteSox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The Wine Thread Beautiful bottle of '85 Warre's, Gabe

10-31-2014, 09:38 AM	#12
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: The Wine Thread Speaking on vintage port magnums, I recently picked up a case of 1975 Grahams Vintage Port in its original wooden case (OWC). Haven't had '75 Grahams in a 4-5 years and having a magnum format is pretty rare. Not their best vintage, but by itself is quite lovely. Picked up 4-5 other cases of port, but that is another post... __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

11-01-2014, 12:26 AM	#13
mc808 Just in from the Storm Join Date: Oct 2014 First Name: Marvin Location: Hawaii Posts: 25 Trading: (0)	Re: The Wine Thread One of my all time favorites is the 1955 Taylor. I was fortunate enough to taste it several times. The oldest port I tasted was a 1890 Dow but it was a little past it's prime.

11-01-2014, 11:36 PM	#14
Gabe215 Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2012 First Name: Gabe Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,120 Trading: (20)	Re: The Wine Thread Moses, if your willing to offload anything woth while at a somewhat worthwhile price PM me I'd love to cellardive what you have PM me oh master!! Thanks - Gabriel P!!

11-02-2014, 08:50 AM	#18
Chainsaw13 Møøse bites can be nasty Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Bob Location: The Enchanted Mitten Posts: 7,179 Trading: (96)	Re: The Wine Thread Every time I come back from Argentina, I get on a small wine kick. Not much of a wine drinker, but I do like Malbec. Been on a hunt to find a bottle of DV Catena. Had it recommended to me, and almost picked up a bottle at the airport. Stopped by a local store yesterday and picked up a bottle of '08 Fabre Montmayou and '11 Catena. As was explained to me by the gent at the store, the Catena family produces a lot of different wines. So the bottle I picked up isn't the exact one I'm looking for, it should still be good. And I'll be headed back to Argentina in February. Now I just need to grill me up a nice steak. __________________ My neighbor came by my house this morning at 2AM, pounding on the door. Good thing I was still up playing the drums.

11-03-2014, 09:38 AM	#19
nutcracker Shameless epicurian Join Date: Apr 2014 First Name: Neil Location: Winnipeg, Canada - Home of the Jets! Posts: 1,631 Trading: (26)	Re: The Wine Thread Nice pairing - Kobe beef burgery with a nice CNdP (La Vieu Telegraph) The La Crau is a 2006, which has aged superbly - nice tannic backbone still there and an excellent balance of mineral and fruit. __________________ "Well I ain't often right but I've never been wrong.... Jerry Garcia (R.I.P.)

11-12-2014, 04:12 PM	#20
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