First Firearm Thread. - Page 245

MurphysLaw · 02-04-2013, 07:34 PM

New custom concealed carry belt has been ordered, should go nicely with the custom leather OWB holster I'll be receiving in a couple weeks

76GTFan · 02-04-2013, 07:42 PM

Just got a Romanian WASR. Yeah laugh it up. Those things fire, and I wasn't concerned with looks. I will get a new stock and pistol grip.

jluck · 02-04-2013, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Digs

Carlos my opinion on PSA is they are equal to DPMS so they wouldn’t be on my list, from what I have noticed sale price seems to be there biggest selling feature. There are many that own these products and are happy because they fit the budget and that’s great, I wish every hard working, tax paying stable American had and AR in there home. But when I purchase AR parts
accessories price really isn’t much of a concern because I always look at as would I trust my life to on in a SHTF scenario, also when you build a pieces and parts rifle the value is in the sum of the parts, so buy good stuff haha (under normal times)

Noveske-LMT-Spikes-Bravo-Colt to name a few would be my 1st choices (once again leaving quite a few out)

I'm guessing things have changed since the list on AR-15.com was made?
LAR = Grizzly, Bushmaster (L Prefix), Ameetech, (?)DPMS, CMMG, Double Star, Fulton, Spike's Tactical, Noveske (new)

I think I am missing something.

spectrrr · 02-04-2013, 09:42 PM

yeah, that list was made 5 years ago

Digs · 02-04-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by spectrrr

yeah, that list was made 5 years ago

You took the words out of my mouth

jluck · 02-04-2013, 10:13 PM

One should not use that list for accurate info then, I guess.

bonjing · 02-04-2013, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Digs

Greg, I said "my opinion " or perception is that of lower price AR's. It comes form all the horrible looking GunShow ar's I see at shows wearing Chinese knock off furniture and cheap wana be Aimpoint optics are usually PSA or similar. I prefer to take the $800 for purchasing a PSA a putting toward a better brand you know the "big boys"

I completely agree with you, with not putting any cheap knockoff stuff on my AR's. I will admit to using Midwest Industries on 1 of my AR's, that's going to change when I get the chance

. Are you maybe mistaking "PSA" Palmetto State Armory, with "PA" Primary Arms? It's hard to control what a person will add/change to the item when it's at a gunshow. Heck I've seen a supposed DD upper mounted with cheap knock off optics at gunshow's myself.

What I see in PSA is that they started out like Bravo Company, offering quality parts with all the same specifications as LMT, Daniel Defense, Colt and others. Now BCM is considered one of the top tier manufactures out there. I don't know what the future holds for PSA but I hope they continue the trend of offering top quality products at a reasonable price point. Like I pointed out PSA offers the same specifications as the top tier manufactures do.

emopunker2004 · 02-04-2013, 11:59 PM

I love my PSA midlength upper. Runs like a champ!

bonjing · 02-05-2013, 12:16 AM

One more thing to point out, I'm only comparing uppers. Below I made bold the same feature from both companies.

From Noveske's website listed at about $800:

16" Cold Hammer Forged 5.56mm Barrel
--M249 Machine Gun barrel steel and Chrome Lining (appx. 2 times as thick as an M4 or M16)
--Extended Feed Ramps
--Same weight as M4 barrel with improved contour for maximum rigidity and no M203 notch
--MP HP tested
--1 in 7" twist
--Mil Spec Phosphate finish
--Mid length gas system
--1/2x28 threads
--Fixed front sight base, F marked
--Flat-top upper receiver
--Mid length A2 type handguards
--Shot peened and MP tested bolt
--Auto carrier with properly staked carrier key
--Gun Fighter Charging Handle
--Blackout Flash Suppressor
--Back up iron sight not included
Upper Weight: 4 1/4 lbs

From PSA all for about $600 (maybe cheaper) before all the madness:

Barrel length 16"
Hammer Forged Barrel
Machine Gun Steel
5.56 Nato Chamber
1 in 7" twist
Double-thick Chrome-lined bore and chamber
A2 profile
M4 feedramps
Forged upper
T-marks

Barrel: A proprietary blend of Hammer forged chrome molly vanadium made by FN that is referred to as "Machine Gun Steel" by virtue of its use in FN's M249 and M240 weapons. The hammer forging process work hardens the steel, making it more durable. In addition, the chrome process for the bore allows for a lining almost twice as thick as a standard M16 for enhanced durability. Chambered in 5.56 NATO, with a 1/7 twist, M4 barrel extension, and a Mid-length gas system. A2 style profile barrel is Mil-spec phosphate coated, High Pressure tested and Magnetic Particle inspected. Barrel is finished off with an F-marked front sight post with sling swivel, standard handguards and an A2 flash hider.

Upper: Forged 7075-T6 A3 AR upper is made to MIL-SPECS and hard coat anodized black for durability. Featuring machined T marks, and a mil-spec finish. These uppers are made for us right here in the USA by a mil-spec manufacturer, and are marked with the Palmetto State Armory logo on the left side, up front, just below the rail.

PSA also offers the same bolt specifications as Noveske's bolt.

emopunker2004 · 02-05-2013, 12:46 AM

Yeh the only real reason I'd get a Noveske or DD is resale value. Period.

jluck · 02-05-2013, 01:00 AM

I took the muzzle loader out today for a couple hours, That's just good fun.

emopunker2004 · 02-05-2013, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jluck

I took the muzzle loader out today for a couple hours, That's just good fun.

Gonna hit up the LGS tomorrow while the wife is at the doc. Need to pick up a case of 12ga shells to go shooting on the 16th. I'll just get whatever cheap birdshot they have.

spectrrr · 02-05-2013, 02:04 AM

I need to find some cheap slugs.... Don't have any in stock... I hate not having a little in stock of the basics...

emopunker2004 · 02-05-2013, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by spectrrr

I need to find some cheap slugs.... Don't have any in stock... I hate not having a little in stock of the basics...

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index....er_id=&sort=8a

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/57931

http://policehq.com/Products/FC-127.RS

http://policehq.com/Products/FC-127LE

http://policehq.com/Products/FC-127LEB

spectrrr · 02-05-2013, 02:35 AM

.80 cents a round.. can't argue much with that.

emopunker2004 · 02-05-2013, 02:54 AM

yeh not too bad. not like you're gonna use it for target practice

spectrrr · 02-05-2013, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004

yeh not too bad. not like you're gonna use it for target practice

Probably will at some point

I hate hunting with a shotgun.. was always more of a rifle man myself...

emopunker2004 · 02-05-2013, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by spectrrr

Probably will at some point

I hate hunting with a shotgun.. was always more of a rifle man myself...

So hunt with a rifle...

spectrrr · 02-05-2013, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004

So hunt with a rifle...

Can't in Ohio :/

emopunker2004 · 02-05-2013, 05:11 AM

WTF? What kinda bullshit is that? Got good sights on your shotgun? or a scope of some sort?

02-04-2013, 07:34 PM	#4881
MurphysLaw Anything can go wrong Join Date: Dec 2010 First Name: Brian Location: SoFlo Posts: 2,823 Trading: (19)	Re: First Firearm Thread. New custom concealed carry belt has been ordered, should go nicely with the custom leather OWB holster I'll be receiving in a couple weeks __________________ It's THIS easy to help our Troops.

02-04-2013, 07:42 PM	#4882
76GTFan Full Blown Section 8 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 503 Trading: (9)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Just got a Romanian WASR. Yeah laugh it up. Those things fire, and I wasn't concerned with looks. I will get a new stock and pistol grip. __________________ That you John Wayne. Is this me?

02-04-2013, 09:42 PM	#4884
spectrrr Back in the midwest! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Ohio Posts: 5,596 Trading: (20)	Re: First Firearm Thread. yeah, that list was made 5 years ago __________________ ¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right..." -Thomas Paine

02-04-2013, 10:13 PM	#4886
jluck Way out there Join Date: Jan 2012 First Name: Jared Location: Oregon Posts: 1,289 Trading: (12)	Re: First Firearm Thread. One should not use that list for accurate info then, I guess.

02-04-2013, 11:59 PM	#4888
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. I love my PSA midlength upper. Runs like a champ! __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

02-05-2013, 12:16 AM	#4889
bonjing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,012 Trading: (39)	Re: First Firearm Thread. One more thing to point out, I'm only comparing uppers. Below I made bold the same feature from both companies. From Noveske's website listed at about $800: 16" Cold Hammer Forged 5.56mm Barrel --M249 Machine Gun barrel steel and Chrome Lining (appx. 2 times as thick as an M4 or M16) --Extended Feed Ramps --Same weight as M4 barrel with improved contour for maximum rigidity and no M203 notch --MP HP tested --1 in 7" twist --Mil Spec Phosphate finish --Mid length gas system --1/2x28 threads --Fixed front sight base, F marked --Flat-top upper receiver --Mid length A2 type handguards --Shot peened and MP tested bolt --Auto carrier with properly staked carrier key --Gun Fighter Charging Handle --Blackout Flash Suppressor --Back up iron sight not included Upper Weight: 4 1/4 lbs From PSA all for about $600 (maybe cheaper) before all the madness: Barrel length 16" Hammer Forged Barrel Machine Gun Steel 5.56 Nato Chamber 1 in 7" twist Double-thick Chrome-lined bore and chamber A2 profile M4 feedramps Forged upper T-marks Barrel: A proprietary blend of Hammer forged chrome molly vanadium made by FN that is referred to as "Machine Gun Steel" by virtue of its use in FN's M249 and M240 weapons. The hammer forging process work hardens the steel, making it more durable. In addition, the chrome process for the bore allows for a lining almost twice as thick as a standard M16 for enhanced durability. Chambered in 5.56 NATO, with a 1/7 twist, M4 barrel extension, and a Mid-length gas system. A2 style profile barrel is Mil-spec phosphate coated, High Pressure tested and Magnetic Particle inspected. Barrel is finished off with an F-marked front sight post with sling swivel, standard handguards and an A2 flash hider. Upper: Forged 7075-T6 A3 AR upper is made to MIL-SPECS and hard coat anodized black for durability. Featuring machined T marks, and a mil-spec finish. These uppers are made for us right here in the USA by a mil-spec manufacturer, and are marked with the Palmetto State Armory logo on the left side, up front, just below the rail. PSA also offers the same bolt specifications as Noveske's bolt.

02-05-2013, 12:46 AM	#4890
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Yeh the only real reason I'd get a Noveske or DD is resale value. Period. __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

02-05-2013, 01:00 AM	#4891
jluck Way out there Join Date: Jan 2012 First Name: Jared Location: Oregon Posts: 1,289 Trading: (12)	Re: First Firearm Thread. I took the muzzle loader out today for a couple hours, That's just good fun.

02-05-2013, 02:04 AM	#4893
spectrrr Back in the midwest! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Ohio Posts: 5,596 Trading: (20)	Re: First Firearm Thread. I need to find some cheap slugs.... Don't have any in stock... I hate not having a little in stock of the basics... __________________ ¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right..." -Thomas Paine

02-05-2013, 02:35 AM	#4895
spectrrr Back in the midwest! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Ohio Posts: 5,596 Trading: (20)	Re: First Firearm Thread. .80 cents a round.. can't argue much with that. __________________ ¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right..." -Thomas Paine

02-05-2013, 02:54 AM	#4896
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. yeh not too bad. not like you're gonna use it for target practice __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

02-05-2013, 05:11 AM	#4900
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. WTF? What kinda bullshit is that? Got good sights on your shotgun? or a scope of some sort? __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.