First Firearm Thread. - Page 240

emopunker2004 · 01-31-2013, 01:50 AM

Better get into reloading if you want 10mm.
1) Pricey
2) Alot of the 10mm loads on the market are underloaded and not maximizing it's potential

Mike I edited my post to say:
Aimpoint PRO $380
Troy Forend for AR $190ish
Magpul Front BUS $40
______________________________
$610

So $500 for a shotgun and ammo...lol
Or $730 if I just get the Aimpoint.

Hm I wouldn't mind a 30-30 Lever Action either

01-31-2013, 01:53 AM

I haven't shot one either but if its pricey and underpowered I think I'll just pass...

emopunker2004 · 01-31-2013, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robulous78

I haven't shot one either but if its pricey and underpowered I think I'll just pass...

10mm is a powerful cartridge, but if you reload you can make it better. Think .40 S&W on roids.

01-31-2013, 02:01 AM

I really didn't notice too much of a difference between the .40 S&W to the 9mm... maybe alittle more punch but not so much that I would go out and buy a .40 over a 9mm... 9mm is cheaper anyway...

emopunker2004 · 01-31-2013, 02:02 AM

you cant go by recoil. let your buddy shoot u with each and see which you like least

01-31-2013, 02:04 AM

lol... I take it you have looked into the actual ballistics... what is the real difference?

emopunker2004 · 01-31-2013, 02:06 AM

Here, go watch. http://www.youtube.com/user/tnoutdoors9/videos?view=0
Nice tests galore.
Either will kill with good shot placement. If you can shoot the 40 as good as the 9 and get good follow up shots, go with the bigger bullet.

Remo · 01-31-2013, 02:09 AM

Another downside I have heard about the 10mm is that they do have some serious recoil and are a bit hard to control.

emopunker2004 · 01-31-2013, 02:16 AM

Just make sure you hit the 1st time

spectrrr · 01-31-2013, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004

Hey Mikey! Hmm what to spend $1100 on...lol

Aimpoint PRO $380
Troy Forend for AR $190ish
Magpul Front BUS $40
______________________________
$610

So $500 for a shotgun and ammo...lol
Or $730 if I just get the Aimpoint.

Take a look at the Diamondhead VR-S rail. I think that's going on mine. I like the look, and I particularly like the way they designed their barrel nut - no timing issues, looks sturdy as heck.

Here's some close ups of the mounting system and the rail: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/58...Handguard.html

Just keep in mine that the inches measurement is for the TOP rail. Add a little over an inch for the bottom.

Samson evolution has good reviews too, but good luck finding one in stock

emopunker2004 · 01-31-2013, 07:05 AM

I'm gonna go with a Samson/raniner evolution if I find one or the Troy alpha.
Think I might just get one of the nef/hawk/norinco 870 clone shotguns. They're great for the money.

spectrrr · 01-31-2013, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emopunker2004

I'm gonna go with a Samson/raniner evolution if I find one or the Troy alpha.
Think I might just get one of the nef/hawk/norinco 870 clone shotguns. They're great for the money.

/I was looking for the samson quite a bit, couldn't find one. Found a few midwest SS ones though. And it seems diamondhead is more in stock than others, so now I don't have to look

$200 is a great pice for a shotty. I've been thinking about one of those myself. Also been looking at a 930 semi auto..

Digs · 01-31-2013, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Remo

Another downside I have heard about the 10mm is that they do have some serious recoil and are a bit hard to control.

Mike I am 10 mm guy, 10 has no worse recoil then .40 s&w (short & weak, ha-ha) or a small 9.

If I loaded up all my Glocks from G17 thru G30 the only one that stands out is the G27 (.40) the recoil is tad bit sharper. My 10mm Colt Delta has = recoil to my .45 Colt Gold CUP.

Digs · 01-31-2013, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robulous78

I really didn't notice too much of a difference between the .40 S&W to the 9mm... maybe alittle more punch but not so much that I would go out and buy a .40 over a 9mm... 9mm is cheaper anyway...

Rob if I were going to buy a .40 I would rather the 10mm like Justin pointed out. A lot of std FMJ ammo for 10 has a tendency to not coming close to living up to its potential (because men have turned in pus-ies) But the is a difference in 180 gr. 40 cal is around 1000 fps /350 ft/lbs vs. 200 gr. 10mm is 1050 fps 490 ft/lbs.

The 10mm has the capability to stomp the nuts off the .40, there is good 10mm ammo out there if you are looking for a top level performer.

emopunker2004 · 01-31-2013, 03:21 PM

Got my pj holster in for my kahr cw45. Time to carry it to pick up some dinner.

01-31-2013, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digs

Rob if I were going to buy a .40 I would rather the 10mm like Justin pointed out. A lot of std FMJ ammo for 10 has a tendency to not coming close to living up to its potential (because men have turned in pus-ies) But the is a difference in 180 gr. 40 cal is around 1000 fps /350 ft/lbs vs. 200 gr. 10mm is 1050 fps 490 ft/lbs.

The 10mm has the capability to stomp the nuts off the .40, there is good 10mm ammo out there if you are looking for a top level performer.

Was just curious about the round really... thanks for the info...

I wonder, is it really expensive to get started in reloading?

spectrrr · 01-31-2013, 07:06 PM

Talked to my moms landlady today, who decided to launch into conversation about the letter she wrote Obama with her idea for solving the "problem" we've got now...

She came up with what I thought for a split second was going to be a good idea. She correctly deduced that guns don't kill people. (imagine that)........ BULLETS DO. So to hell with gun control, she's pro gun... but doesn't feel safe around bullets. *DOH* She wants a little portable detector, maybe something that can go in her cell phone, so she can be alerted to the presence of bullets, that way she can leave the room.

I pointed out the pitfalls of increasing ammo costs to the point where people could not afford to train to a level of proficient safety (amongst many other things), and she said "GOOD!!" But don't worry, she's not anti-gun, and doesn't even know why I'm talking about them when she's only talking about bullets.

*sigh* Ron White said it best...

Col. Kurtz · 01-31-2013, 07:42 PM

Natchez seems to have hi-caps in stock. c-products 30 rounders...

spectrrr · 01-31-2013, 08:18 PM

I need to track down a Black Dog 50rd drum for the 15-22... bump firing empties the 25rd mags too quickly

emopunker2004 · 01-31-2013, 10:25 PM

Here's the new holster.

Untitled by emopunker2004, on Flickr

Untitled by emopunker2004, on Flickr

And his maker mark, must be new as my last holster didn't have one.

Untitled by emopunker2004, on Flickr

01-31-2013, 01:50 AM	#4781
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Better get into reloading if you want 10mm. 1) Pricey 2) Alot of the 10mm loads on the market are underloaded and not maximizing it's potential Mike I edited my post to say: Aimpoint PRO $380 Troy Forend for AR $190ish Magpul Front BUS $40 ______________________________ $610 So $500 for a shotgun and ammo...lol Or $730 if I just get the Aimpoint. Hm I wouldn't mind a 30-30 Lever Action either __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

01-31-2013, 01:53 AM	#4782
Robulous78 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: First Firearm Thread. I haven't shot one either but if its pricey and underpowered I think I'll just pass...

01-31-2013, 02:01 AM	#4784
Robulous78 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: First Firearm Thread. I really didn't notice too much of a difference between the .40 S&W to the 9mm... maybe alittle more punch but not so much that I would go out and buy a .40 over a 9mm... 9mm is cheaper anyway...

01-31-2013, 02:02 AM	#4785
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. you cant go by recoil. let your buddy shoot u with each and see which you like least __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

01-31-2013, 02:04 AM	#4786
Robulous78 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: First Firearm Thread. lol... I take it you have looked into the actual ballistics... what is the real difference?

01-31-2013, 02:06 AM	#4787
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Here, go watch. http://www.youtube.com/user/tnoutdoors9/videos?view=0 Nice tests galore. Either will kill with good shot placement. If you can shoot the 40 as good as the 9 and get good follow up shots, go with the bigger bullet. __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

01-31-2013, 02:09 AM	#4788
Remo C.I.A Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Palm Harbor, Florida Posts: 12,597 Trading: (122)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Another downside I have heard about the 10mm is that they do have some serious recoil and are a bit hard to control. __________________

01-31-2013, 02:16 AM	#4789
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Just make sure you hit the 1st time __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

01-31-2013, 07:05 AM	#4791
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. I'm gonna go with a Samson/raniner evolution if I find one or the Troy alpha. Think I might just get one of the nef/hawk/norinco 870 clone shotguns. They're great for the money. __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

01-31-2013, 03:21 PM	#4795
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Got my pj holster in for my kahr cw45. Time to carry it to pick up some dinner. __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

01-31-2013, 07:06 PM	#4797
spectrrr Back in the midwest! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Ohio Posts: 5,596 Trading: (20)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Talked to my moms landlady today, who decided to launch into conversation about the letter she wrote Obama with her idea for solving the "problem" we've got now... She came up with what I thought for a split second was going to be a good idea. She correctly deduced that guns don't kill people. (imagine that)........ BULLETS DO. So to hell with gun control, she's pro gun... but doesn't feel safe around bullets. DOH She wants a little portable detector, maybe something that can go in her cell phone, so she can be alerted to the presence of bullets, that way she can leave the room. I pointed out the pitfalls of increasing ammo costs to the point where people could not afford to train to a level of proficient safety (amongst many other things), and she said "GOOD!!" But don't worry, she's not anti-gun, and doesn't even know why I'm talking about them when she's only talking about bullets. sigh Ron White said it best... __________________ ¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right..." -Thomas Paine

01-31-2013, 07:42 PM	#4798
Col. Kurtz Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jerry Location: South Appleton Posts: 1,839 Trading: (26)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Natchez seems to have hi-caps in stock. c-products 30 rounders... __________________ Artillery Lends Dignity to What Would Otherwise Be a Vulgar Brawl

01-31-2013, 08:18 PM	#4799
spectrrr Back in the midwest! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Ohio Posts: 5,596 Trading: (20)	Re: First Firearm Thread. I need to track down a Black Dog 50rd drum for the 15-22... bump firing empties the 25rd mags too quickly __________________ ¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right..." -Thomas Paine

01-31-2013, 10:25 PM	#4800
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Here's the new holster. Untitled by emopunker2004, on Flickr Untitled by emopunker2004, on Flickr And his maker mark, must be new as my last holster didn't have one. Untitled by emopunker2004, on Flickr __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.