*2009 MLB Thread* - Page 23

MedicCook · 07-29-2009, 12:25 PM

More trade news.

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The Pittsburgh Pirates have dealt shortstop Jack Wilson and right-handed pitcher Ian Snell to the Seattle Mariners for shortstop Ronny Cedeno, first baseman Jeff Clement, and right-handed pitching prospects Aaron Pribanic, Brett Lorin and Nathan Adcock, the Pirates announced Wednesday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4363900

MedicCook · 07-28-2009, 10:08 PM

I can see where he thought you meant Nolan Ryan.

icehog3 · 07-28-2009, 10:32 PM

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I can see where he thought you meant Nolan Ryan.

Me too.

kelmac07 · 07-29-2009, 08:25 AM

Shame to see Burhle lose it the way he did. My Mets have won FOUR in a row...woo-hoo!!!

MedicCook · 07-29-2009, 09:50 AM

Cliff Lee may be going to the Phillies.

Wang's Yankee season is over with shoulder surgery.

VirtualSmitty · 07-29-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MedicCook

Cliff Lee may be going to the Phillies.

Wang's Yankee season is over with shoulder surgery.

Bad news about Wang. Seems like there are a number of teams interested in Lee right now, will be interesting to see how the next couple of days play out.

MedicCook · 07-29-2009, 10:42 AM

With both Lee & Doc and if the Yankees & Red Sox actually get heavy into the bidding.

kelmac07 · 07-29-2009, 12:28 PM

The Phillies have reached agreement with the Indians on a trade that would bring them left-hander Cliff Lee and outfielder Ben Francisco for Class A right-hander Jason Knapp, Class AAA right-hander Carlos Carrasco, shortstop Jason Donald and catcher Lou Marson, according to major-league sources.

This makes the Phillies a lot stronger!!! DAMNIT!!

MedicCook · 07-29-2009, 12:29 PM

For the type of players the Jays are wanting I am fine with letting someone else other than the Yankees get him.

yourchoice · 07-29-2009, 12:42 PM

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For the type of players the Jays are wanting I am fine with letting someone else other than the Yankees get him.

I agree. JP Riccardi (sp?) is writing his ticket out of a job. I'm hearing the Phils called the Jays before finalizing the deal with the Indians, offering the same package along with Happ, and the Jays said no. Moving on...

scoot · 07-29-2009, 03:25 PM

Now if Amaro will toss Happ, Drabek, and Brown to the Jays for Doc we can go ahead and win back-to-back titles.

The Poet · 07-29-2009, 03:30 PM

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Now if Amaro will toss Happ, Drabek, and Brown to the Jays for Doc we can go ahead and win back-to-back titles.

Yeah - if they toss in Rollins and Howard as extras maybe.

scoot · 07-29-2009, 04:32 PM

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Yeah - if they toss in Rollins and Howard as extras maybe.

No, they would most likely accept as it was the Jays original offer.

yourchoice · 07-29-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scoot

Now if Amaro will toss Happ, Drabek, and Brown to the Jays for Doc we can go ahead and win back-to-back titles.

0.05% chance of that, but I think they have a very good chance (3/1 ~ 4/1) with just this move.

Don't forget they finally got a right-handed bat off the bench along with Lee too! Ben Francisco

scoot · 07-29-2009, 04:24 PM

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0.05% chance of that, but I think they have a very good chance (3/1 ~ 4/1) with just this move.

Don't forget they finally got a right-handed bat off the bench along with Lee too! Ben Francisco

Yeah I know, but I think it would be better than keeping Happ and Drabek. Happ is good, but its unlikely that he'll develop into a number one guy, teams are going to start hitting him one they see more of him. Drabek is a prospect and as such is largely unproven, plus he's only 21 and has already had Tommy John surgery. I'd gladly give them both away for Halladay in the rotation for the remainder of this year and next season. It would make the likelihood of a world championship that much higher. Plus he'd be more than likely to resign if he gets a ring while he's here.

But, the big downside to Halladay is his 15M+ contract for next year which Amaro will almost definitely not take on after getting Lee and with other financial issues, such as Blanton, to handle. I'd still love to see it happen though.

yourchoice · 07-29-2009, 05:02 PM

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Yeah I know, but I think it would be better than keeping Happ and Drabek. Happ is good, but its unlikely that he'll develop into a number one guy, teams are going to start hitting him one they see more of him. Drabek is a prospect and as such is largely unproven, plus he's only 21 and has already had Tommy John surgery. I'd gladly give them both away for Halladay in the rotation for the remainder of this year and next season. It would make the likelihood of a world championship that much higher. Plus he'd be more than likely to resign if he gets a ring while he's here.

But, the big downside to Halladay is his 15M+ contract for next year which Amaro will almost definitely not take on after getting Lee and with other financial issues, such as Blanton, to handle. I'd still love to see it happen though.

For the most part, I agree. Happ is a major league pitcher, but probably realistically will develop into a solid 3. Drabek is supposedly a stud (top of the rotation guy) but actually, I think he's had two surgeries (one in HS). The guy you left out that the Jays wanted, Brown, is supposedly a super prospect too. From what I heard he's one of three outfielders presently in A ball who is projected to be a MLB All-Star (a guy in the Braves system and a guy in the Marlins system are the other two). It would have been an awful lot for Doc, but I still would have loved to got him. If last year's AL Cy Young winner was the back-up plan, I'm not complaining.

It's crazy to think this is the same ownership that was in place in the late '90s.

07-29-2009, 04:23 PM

We are the Wild Card, just took the Pirates at the bottom of the 10th.

Tomorrow starts the series against Philly, it's going to be insane. I'll be at the game Sunday.

07-30-2009, 11:25 AM

So we traded Tim Alderson for Freddy Sanchez.

I am not 100% behind this trade.

I have concerns about Sanchez and his knee problems, though he bats .300 for his career. We can def use some hitters.

Alderson was a good prospect pitcher, but we have enough pitchers.

My biggest concern again, is Sanchez's knee problems.

yourchoice · 07-30-2009, 11:37 AM

There's a report that Manny and Ortiz were both on the list of those who tested positive in 2003.

Link.

Let's see what spin Faux-Sox Nation has!

The only thing I'd rather hear less than that is what the Weasel Empire has to add!

07-30-2009, 11:38 AM

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There's a report that Manny and Ortiz were both on the list of those who tested positive in 2003.

Link.

Let's see what spin Faux-Sox Nation has!

The only thing I'd rather not hear is what the Weasel Empire has to add!

Good!

Now they need to be barred from the HOF.

07-28-2009, 10:08 PM	#2
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: 2009 MLB Thread I can see where he thought you meant Nolan Ryan. __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

07-29-2009, 08:25 AM	#4
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: 2009 MLB Thread Shame to see Burhle lose it the way he did. My Mets have won FOUR in a row...woo-hoo!!!

07-29-2009, 09:50 AM	#5
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: 2009 MLB Thread Cliff Lee may be going to the Phillies. Wang's Yankee season is over with shoulder surgery. __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

07-29-2009, 10:42 AM	#7
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: 2009 MLB Thread With both Lee & Doc and if the Yankees & Red Sox actually get heavy into the bidding. __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

07-29-2009, 12:28 PM	#8
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: 2009 MLB Thread The Phillies have reached agreement with the Indians on a trade that would bring them left-hander Cliff Lee and outfielder Ben Francisco for Class A right-hander Jason Knapp, Class AAA right-hander Carlos Carrasco, shortstop Jason Donald and catcher Lou Marson, according to major-league sources. This makes the Phillies a lot stronger!!! DAMNIT!!

07-29-2009, 12:29 PM	#9
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: 2009 MLB Thread For the type of players the Jays are wanting I am fine with letting someone else other than the Yankees get him. __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

07-29-2009, 03:25 PM	#11
scoot Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pat Location: Philadelphia Posts: 142 Trading: (0)	Re: 2009 MLB Thread Now if Amaro will toss Happ, Drabek, and Brown to the Jays for Doc we can go ahead and win back-to-back titles.

07-29-2009, 04:23 PM	#17
Darrell Guest Posts: n/a	Re: 2009 MLB Thread We are the Wild Card, just took the Pirates at the bottom of the 10th. Tomorrow starts the series against Philly, it's going to be insane. I'll be at the game Sunday.

07-30-2009, 11:25 AM	#18
Darrell Guest Posts: n/a	Re: 2009 MLB Thread So we traded Tim Alderson for Freddy Sanchez. I am not 100% behind this trade. I have concerns about Sanchez and his knee problems, though he bats .300 for his career. We can def use some hitters. Alderson was a good prospect pitcher, but we have enough pitchers. My biggest concern again, is Sanchez's knee problems.

07-30-2009, 11:37 AM	#19
yourchoice Down the stretch Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joel Location: South Jersey Posts: 4,106 Trading: (36)	Re: 2009 MLB Thread There's a report that Manny and Ortiz were both on the list of those who tested positive in 2003. Link. Let's see what spin Faux-Sox Nation has! The only thing I'd rather hear less than that is what the Weasel Empire has to add!