First Firearm Thread. - Page 224

spectrrr · 01-18-2013, 10:53 PM

Yep... lots of OC idiots.

Primary appeal of OC to us I think is a desire to change peoples minds, to educate away the knee-jerk fear away from them. But it's bass ackwards, the fear is already there, and OC won't fix it.

For practical use, CC is much better to not let the bad guy know.

Steve · 01-18-2013, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004

I've mixed feeling on OC. Even if we had OC, I'd CC most of the time. Don't want the BD to know I'm packing.

Amen

Steve · 01-18-2013, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by spectrrr

Yep... lots of OC idiots.

Primary appeal of OC to us I think is a desire to change peoples minds, to educate away the knee-jerk fear away from them. But it's bass ackwards, the fear is already there, and OC won't fix it.

For practical use, CC is much better to not let the bad guy know.

Agreed!

But sometimes it would be nice to carry open and not worry.

In Fla. we can carry open on the way to hunting, fishing or camping though.

Brian D. · 01-18-2013, 11:09 PM

Open Carry marches are a big part of how we got Ohio to pass concealed carry, spectrrr. We told the legislators there were lots more OC events to come, including up and down the sidewalks where they lived, gated communities or not. It also was useful as a protest tool in towns where the police were hassling both open and concealed carriers, using local ordinances that were no longer valid, or just plain flat out playing 'bully behind the badge'.

I maintain open carry still has a place in the battle to raise awareness and straighten out towns in Ohio with an antigun bent. Plus, a right not exercised will be taken away sooner or later. I know that some feel OC led to stricter gun control in California, but basically that was gonna happen anyhow, the lefty quotient in ther government is way too high.

Just to keep the thread in the right direction: On Thursday I was able to buy a couple hundred rounds of .40 S&W 180 grain flat point factory rounds at a good price, but that supplier (old friend) may be out of all ammo real soon. He only gave me a deal because he's got AR lowers to pay for that he snagged before the hysteria.

emopunker2004 · 01-18-2013, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve

Agreed!

But sometimes it would be nice to carry open and not worry.

In Fla. we can carry open on the way to hunting, fishing or camping though.

Or at YOUR business you own or on you property at home.

Steve · 01-18-2013, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004

Or at YOUR business you own or on you property at home.

True

emopunker2004 · 01-19-2013, 07:51 AM

Got my mags in

IMG_1517 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

Green Follower(magpul gen3)

IMG_1518 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

Manf Date Stamp

IMG_1519 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

Just for fun

IMG_1521 by emopunker2004, on Flickr

big a · 01-19-2013, 09:04 AM

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Does anyone have any first hand experience with carrying the G27 or springfield xdc inside the waste? I already have an LCP for the back pocket but i have been wanting something for IWB option. I have made a chart of all the different .40s I'm looking at and the Glock 27 and xd are very close in size. The big size difference between the 27, xd and the shield is that the shield is .23" thinner. However the xd and 27 both hold 3 more rounds. Thoughts or opinions on any of the guns above?

Thanks the other replys everyone. I was able to get my hands on a G27 and I really did not like it. I almost walked out of there with a Karh CM9 for $389 but the wife would not of been happy. I still would like to see an XDs and shield before i pull the trigger. Things are getting crazy around here though, most gun shops only have around 30% stock left. Most are completely out of target ammo too.

Blueface · 01-19-2013, 10:05 AM

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Thanks the other replys everyone. I was able to get my hands on a G27 and I really did not like it. I almost walked out of there with a Karh CM9 for $389 but the wife would not of been happy. I still would like to see an XDs and shield before i pull the trigger. Things are getting crazy around here though, most gun shops only have around 30% stock left. Most are completely out of target ammo too.

For concealed, you will love the Shield or XDs. The latter is just more expensive, a manly .45.

Blueface · 01-19-2013, 10:06 AM

Justin, where are those mags from?
Still waiting on my E Landers from 12/31 order but looks like they are now in the 7000 range, which is where I am.

emopunker2004 · 01-19-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueface

Justin, where are those mags from?
Still waiting on my E Landers from 12/31 order but looks like they are now in the 7000 range, which is where I am.

Dsg arms. I backordered them on 12/20. I got my E-landers in the other day too that I ordered on 12/27

bonjing · 01-19-2013, 12:34 PM

Has any one tested their elander mags yet?

emopunker2004 · 01-19-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjing

Has any one tested their elander mags yet?

Yes. Some people are having issues seating them with 30 on a closed bolt without a hard hit to the mag. I am as well. Seats fine with 28 and seats fine on an open bolt. Springs are very tight. My department requires that we download all mags to 28 so not a problem for me, plus I usually put mags in on open bolt anyway.

emopunker2004 · 01-19-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by emopunker2004

Yes. Some people are having issues seating them with 30 on a closed bolt without a hard hit to the mag. I am as well. Seats fine with 28 and seats fine on an open bolt. Springs are very tight. My department requires that we download all mags to 28 so not a problem for me, plus I usually put mags in on open bolt anyway.

But as far as functioning in a rifle, they seem to function fine from all reports I've seen with no malfunctions

spectrrr · 01-19-2013, 03:11 PM

I'm debating whether to sell a few pmags I've got now for a hefty 5x profit... or wait for a mag limit to pass and profit more... or wait for a mag limit to NOT pass and then be left holding the bag

..... I'm leaning towards selling off a few now....

emopunker2004 · 01-19-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by spectrrr

I'm debating whether to sell a few pmags I've got now for a hefty 5x profit... or wait for a mag limit to pass and profit more... or wait for a mag limit to NOT pass and then be left holding the bag

..... I'm leaning towards selling off a few now....

My buddy sold a bunch of pmags for for $60 each lol

tchariya · 01-19-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by spectrrr

I'm debating whether to sell a few pmags I've got now for a hefty 5x profit... or wait for a mag limit to pass and profit more... or wait for a mag limit to NOT pass and then be left holding the bag

..... I'm leaning towards selling off a few now....

If you don't mind waiting to place a back-order now with say..dsgarms, then sell them off!

I picked up 10/$125 on the G2 windowed Pmags from them, got it in under a month. I know they are still OOS on the non-windowed black G2. DSG is great, they have yet to jack up their prices on their inventory due to the imminent tightening of gun ownership laws.

spectrrr · 01-19-2013, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tchariya

If you don't mind waiting to place a back-order now with say..dsgarms, then sell them off!

I picked up 10/$125 on the G2 windowed Pmags from them, got it in under a month. I know they are still OOS on the non-windowed black G2. DSG is great, they have yet to jack up their prices on their inventory due to the imminent tightening of gun ownership laws.

Not sure if I placed an order NOW that I would ever receive it, lol

BUT DSGarms delivered 10 windowed pmags to me last week... and 10 more non windowed pmags from dsg are supposed to be delivered monday

Paid $10 for the non windowed ones... kinda hard to resist not posting em for $60... besides, gotta come up with some way to justify the rest of my purchases this month

--- I'm still collecting parts for a more 3-gun oriented AR, and a PTR91 arrives on Thursday

tchariya · 01-19-2013, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by spectrrr

Not sure if I placed an order NOW that I would ever receive it, lol

BUT DSGarms delivered 10 windowed pmags to me last week... and 10 more non windowed pmags from dsg are supposed to be delivered monday

Paid $10 for the non windowed ones... kinda hard to resist not posting em for $60... besides, gotta come up with some way to justify the rest of my purchases this month

--- I'm still collecting parts for a more 3-gun oriented AR, and a PTR91 arrives on Thursday

oh pretty pics when you get done!!!

spectrrr · 01-19-2013, 07:57 PM

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oh pretty pics when you get done!!!

Might be a long while... missing most of the parts, something about being out of stock. lol.

I was going to with a 14.5" barrel, but I've reconsidered, planning on doing a 16" midlength gas now. Daniel Defense has a reasonably priced one, though I just have to find it in stock

01-18-2013, 10:53 PM	#4461
spectrrr Back in the midwest! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Ohio Posts: 5,596 Trading: (20)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Yep... lots of OC idiots. Primary appeal of OC to us I think is a desire to change peoples minds, to educate away the knee-jerk fear away from them. But it's bass ackwards, the fear is already there, and OC won't fix it. For practical use, CC is much better to not let the bad guy know. __________________ ¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right..." -Thomas Paine

01-18-2013, 11:09 PM	#4464
Brian D. Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Brian Location: SW Ohio Posts: 1,625 Trading: (1)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Open Carry marches are a big part of how we got Ohio to pass concealed carry, spectrrr. We told the legislators there were lots more OC events to come, including up and down the sidewalks where they lived, gated communities or not. It also was useful as a protest tool in towns where the police were hassling both open and concealed carriers, using local ordinances that were no longer valid, or just plain flat out playing 'bully behind the badge'. I maintain open carry still has a place in the battle to raise awareness and straighten out towns in Ohio with an antigun bent. Plus, a right not exercised will be taken away sooner or later. I know that some feel OC led to stricter gun control in California, but basically that was gonna happen anyhow, the lefty quotient in ther government is way too high. Just to keep the thread in the right direction: On Thursday I was able to buy a couple hundred rounds of .40 S&W 180 grain flat point factory rounds at a good price, but that supplier (old friend) may be out of all ammo real soon. He only gave me a deal because he's got AR lowers to pay for that he snagged before the hysteria. __________________ Any gathering that includes Elderboy02 is "NKA"-- --No Ketchup Allowed.

01-19-2013, 07:51 AM	#4467
emopunker2004 Central Fla rollin Join Date: Jan 2011 First Name: Justin Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 6,171 Trading: (46)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Got my mags in IMG_1517 by emopunker2004, on Flickr Green Follower(magpul gen3) IMG_1518 by emopunker2004, on Flickr Manf Date Stamp IMG_1519 by emopunker2004, on Flickr Just for fun IMG_1521 by emopunker2004, on Flickr __________________ Cigar Asylum: Where all are equal, unless you are from CA, then you are more equal.

01-19-2013, 10:06 AM	#4470
Blueface Gramps 4x's Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana Posts: 8,774 Trading: (8)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Justin, where are those mags from? Still waiting on my E Landers from 12/31 order but looks like they are now in the 7000 range, which is where I am. __________________ Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian

01-19-2013, 12:34 PM	#4472
bonjing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,012 Trading: (39)	Re: First Firearm Thread. Has any one tested their elander mags yet?

01-19-2013, 03:11 PM	#4475
spectrrr Back in the midwest! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Ohio Posts: 5,596 Trading: (20)	Re: First Firearm Thread. I'm debating whether to sell a few pmags I've got now for a hefty 5x profit... or wait for a mag limit to pass and profit more... or wait for a mag limit to NOT pass and then be left holding the bag ..... I'm leaning towards selling off a few now.... __________________ ¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ "A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right..." -Thomas Paine