*2010 MLB Thread* - Page 22

The Poet · 07-05-2010, 04:56 PM

To be honest (for a brief second

), the only problem I have with the fans making all the picks is that these days the game actually means a little something . . . possible home-field during the World Series. Otherwise, the All Star game is solely for the fans, so why shouldn't they see who they want to see play?

3SmokesaRound · 07-05-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Poet

To be honest (for a brief second

), the only problem I have with the fans making all the picks is that these days the game actually means a little something . . . possible home-field during the World Series. Otherwise, the All Star game is solely for the fans, so why shouldn't they see who they want to see play?

The major problem with the fans making all the selections is that people that deserve to be there often times get left off the roster unless they are from a big market team like the Yankees or Red Sox. I think the All Star team should be made up the guys that have the best numbers at this point in the season. I don't have a problem with each team being represented either.

The Poet · 07-05-2010, 05:19 PM

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The major problem with the fans making all the selections is that people that deserve to be there often times get left off the roster unless they are from a big market team like the Yankees or Red Sox.

OK, but your Giants play in a city with a greater population than Boston, and Fresno itself ain't much smaller than Beantown. Is it the Red Sox fan's fault that you laid-back Cali surfer dudes don't support your own as strongly?

As for the Yankees, let's forget for a moment that New York City dwarfs Frisco and Boston combined and instead take note that, at the moment, there are three definite Hall Of Fame players on the team, two who are at least borderline, and three or four more who have demonstrated the potential to become HOFers. Why should they not dominate the All Star game, hunh?

3SmokesaRound · 07-05-2010, 06:19 PM

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OK, but your Giants play in a city with a greater population than Boston, and Fresno itself ain't much smaller than Beantown. Is it the Red Sox fan's fault that you laid-back Cali surfer dudes don't support your own as strongly?

As for the Yankees, let's forget for a moment that New York City dwarfs Frisco and Boston combined and instead take note that, at the moment, there are three definite Hall Of Fame players on the team, two who are at least borderline, and three or four more who have demonstrated the potential to become HOFers. Why should they not dominate the All Star game, hunh?

I had to laugh out loud at your comment above. I don't do much surfing here in Fresno, three hours from the beach in 100 degree weather.

I don't think the population of indivual cities where teams are located really factors into the equation a whole lot. Instead, it's a teams history and current or recent production. We both know how many bandwagoners there are out there. In fact, my two buddies that follow baseball most are both Yankee fans.

As far as the other bolded comment above - If the Yankees had 9 guys that deserved to be in the All Star game because of their stats THIS YEAR (not because they have done it in the past or are potential HoF'ers) I could live with that. Even though I root against the "Evil Empire."

chippewastud79 · 07-05-2010, 06:36 PM

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That is laughable, but in all honesty I'd rather the fans have an extra pick than the managers getting any. Really though, every pick should be decided on by the players.

The NFL does that and the same players seem to go every year. I don't know what the answer is to getting the most deserving players into the AllStar games of the respective sports but every league has their flaw with how they vote players in. Every year there are players left out, and players who are in there strictly based on legacy.

3SmokesaRound · 07-05-2010, 07:14 PM

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The NFL does that and the same players seem to go every year. I don't know what the answer is to getting the most deserving players into the AllStar games of the respective sports but every league has their flaw with how they vote players in. Every year there are players left out, and players who are in there strictly based on legacy.

I agree that there are flaws in every system, in every game, and every year there are guys left off the "Team" that deserve to be there. By no means, with the players voting all selections in, would it solve the problem. I just feel it's the lesser of all evils. I just can't stand how most managers pick THEIR guys or Omar Infante. It sucks for Infante, and I hope if he gets to play, that he plays well, but there are about 25 guys that should be there instead of him.

kelmac07 · 07-05-2010, 08:02 PM

I ALWAYS root against the "Evil Empire"!!

The Poet · 07-06-2010, 02:26 PM

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I ALWAYS root against the "Evil Empire"!!

And we appreciate that, Mac.

MedicCook · 07-06-2010, 03:50 PM

Vote for Swisher!!!!!!

kelmac07 · 07-06-2010, 04:07 PM

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Vote for Swisher!!!!!!

There are already too many Yankees on the roster.

MedicCook · 07-06-2010, 04:11 PM

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There are not enough Yankees on the roster.

I agree completely Mac.

If there was a Mets player in the final vote I would have voted for them also.

kelmac07 · 07-06-2010, 04:12 PM

Sad as it is to say, I did vote for Swisher. He is having a very quiet, consistent year.

The Poet · 07-06-2010, 04:16 PM

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There are already too many Yankees on the roster.

Maybe so, in some opinions. But note this: He is hitting .296, with 13 HRs and 47 RBIs, and an OBP of .883. Compare that to all the people crying that Stephen Strasburg should be on the roster, with his 2-2 record and 2.45 ERA, all on the basis of the splash he's made in his whole 36+ innings in the major leagues.

kelmac07 · 07-06-2010, 04:21 PM

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Maybe so, in some opinions. But note this: He is hitting .296, with 13 HRs and 47 RBIs, and an OBP of .883. Compare that to all the people crying that Stephen Strasburg should be on the roster, with his 2-2 record and 2.45 ERA, all on the basis of the splash he's made in his whole 36+ innings in the major leagues.

I agree Thomas...Strasburg has no business being on this roster...not this year. And see above...Swisher is having a decent year for the Yanks.

MedicCook · 07-06-2010, 04:24 PM

Swisher's defense has been very good this year. This is probably his best all round season in his career.

VirtualSmitty · 07-06-2010, 04:48 PM

Swisher got my Al votes and Zimmerman got my NL votes.

MedicCook · 07-06-2010, 05:08 PM

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Swisher got my Al votes and Zimmerman got my NL votes.

Same here.

The Poet · 07-07-2010, 04:23 PM

Did you guys catch this foul pop? Geoff Blum, infielder for the Astros, landed on the 15-day DL when he injured himself . . . putting on his shirt. Seems he was sticking his arm through the sleeve when he heard a pop in his elbow.

kelmac07 · 07-07-2010, 04:26 PM

How can you overlook what Joey Votto has done?? He is probably the NL MVP if voting ended today. Zimmerman is playing for a last place team, albeit the Nats.

Starscream · 07-07-2010, 11:24 PM

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How can you overlook what Joey Votto has done?? He is probably the NL MVP if voting ended today. Zimmerman is playing for a last place team, albeit the Nats.

Yessir. Everybody put in a vote for this man. He's been through a lot the past year and is still rocking the ball.

07-05-2010, 04:56 PM	#421
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: 2010 MLB Thread To be honest (for a brief second ), the only problem I have with the fans making all the picks is that these days the game actually means a little something . . . possible home-field during the World Series. Otherwise, the All Star game is solely for the fans, so why shouldn't they see who they want to see play?

07-05-2010, 08:02 PM	#427
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: 2010 MLB Thread I ALWAYS root against the "Evil Empire"!! __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

07-06-2010, 03:50 PM	#429
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: 2010 MLB Thread Vote for Swisher!!!!!! __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

07-06-2010, 04:12 PM	#432
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: 2010 MLB Thread Sad as it is to say, I did vote for Swisher. He is having a very quiet, consistent year. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

07-06-2010, 04:24 PM	#435
MedicCook Mila smoked my cigar Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: Schaghticoke, NY Posts: 10,946 Trading: (7)	Re: 2010 MLB Thread Swisher's defense has been very good this year. This is probably his best all round season in his career. __________________ 27 World Series Championship's "If your wife doesn't like the aroma of your cigar, change your wife.", Zino Davidoff

07-06-2010, 04:48 PM	#436
VirtualSmitty WiP!? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joe Location: The Evil Empire Posts: 2,084 Trading: (0)	Re: 2010 MLB Thread Swisher got my Al votes and Zimmerman got my NL votes. __________________ We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid - Benjamin Franklin

07-07-2010, 04:23 PM	#438
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: 2010 MLB Thread Did you guys catch this foul pop? Geoff Blum, infielder for the Astros, landed on the 15-day DL when he injured himself . . . putting on his shirt. Seems he was sticking his arm through the sleeve when he heard a pop in his elbow.

07-07-2010, 04:26 PM	#439
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: 2010 MLB Thread How can you overlook what Joey Votto has done?? He is probably the NL MVP if voting ended today. Zimmerman is playing for a last place team, albeit the Nats. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"