Official MMA Thread - Page 21

08-06-2009, 11:53 PM

There appears to be some bad blood brewing between anderson silva and Griffin. Griffin has Robert Drysdale a Abu Dhabi champion training him in BJJ for this fight. Robert claims Forrest has better BJJ than Silva and this pissed him off. Silva called Drysdale a fool and an idiot.
Other news Strikeforce signs Ronaldo Jacare Souza, the USA fans get to see this incredible fighter now.

goalie204 · 08-07-2009, 06:05 AM

Looks like Edith isn't an octagon girl anymore! She isn't on the ufc site, new girl replacing her is hot - natasha wicks

Ken · 08-07-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by goalie204

natasha wicks

I likes!!!

My only hope with this Fedor situation is that Strikeforce doesn't over extend their business to suit M-1 or their pocket book. I'm with many people, and what Dana W. brought up in statements, that Strikeforce doesn't put on title fights. Three belts that have been stalled and who knows when Cung Le will fight again. Aside from the titles I've liked the Strikeforce shows.

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"The UFC did not give us any chance to develop. The UFC wants me to be the fighter of the UFC. They do not offer us anything else."

I'm about done with this, but wondered what this was actually targeted at. Are they talking about developing as a fighter and not wanting a title shot for the first fight?

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Hard not to take those odds but I don't think Forrest can take the Spider. I also think Florian is very, very good and will take BJ.

I'm running with you on this. I like forrest though do not see him finishing Silva and Silva is going to put on a fight. And Penn is probably prepping excuses right now for his post fight interview.

ActionAndy · 08-07-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken

I'm about done with this, but wondered what this was actually targeted at. Are they talking about developing as a fighter and not wanting a title shot for the first fight?

I think in poor english he means that they didn't offer M-1 the chance to expand in a US market-- co-promotion. He wants to develop M-1 as he develops his US based fight game, one alongside the other.

Ken · 08-07-2009, 09:42 AM

You're probably right ActionA, though part of my brain was thinking they may have wanted to get a feel for the cage. Although Fedor has used the ropes to avoid takes I don't think the switch to the cage really matters much, he is a natural fighter and should adjust quickly.

NCRadioMan · 08-07-2009, 04:57 PM

UFC 101 weigh-in results: All 22 fighters officially make weight for "Declaration" event

PHILADELPHIA - All 22 competitors set to fight at "UFC 101: Declaration" successfully made weight for the event at today's official fighter weigh-ins.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) today was on scene for the weigh-ins, which were held at the Wachovia Center in Philadelphia, the same venue that hosts Saturday's pay-per-view event.

UFC lightweight champion B.J. Penn and fellow headliner Kenny Florian each tipped the scales at the 155-pound limit before briefly engaging in a nose-to-nose staredown.

Following the pose-off, each competitor promised to display their full potentials.

"This is my dream; this is what every fighter works for," Florian told event emcee Joe Rogan. "I will perform tomorrow night for sure."

The usually vocal Penn was brief in response.

"I'm in great shape," Penn said. "I'm going to go out and do my best."

Additionally, UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva, who moves up to the light heavyweight division for a non-title fight with Forrest Griffin, weighed 205 pounds. Griffin also weighed in right on the light heavyweight limit.

The full weigh-in results included:

MAIN CARD

* Champ B.J. Penn (155) vs. Kenny Florian (155)
* Champ Anderson Silva (205) vs. Forrest Griffin (205)
* Ricardo Almeida (185) vs. Kendall Grove (185.5)
* Josh Neer (155.5) vs. Kurt Pellegrino (154.5)
* Johny Hendricks (171) vs. Amir Sadollah (166.5)

PRELIMINARY CARD

* Shane Nelson (156) vs. Aaron Riley (154)
* John Howard (169.5) vs. Tamdan McCrory (170)
* Thales Leites (185) vs. Alessio Sakara (185.5)
* Dan Cramer (169.5) vs. Matthew Riddle (170)
* George Roop (154) vs. George Sotiropoulos (155)
* Jesse Lennox (171) vs. Danillo Villefort (170.25)

Frankly, this show doesn't have that much appeal. If it were not for the 2 main fights, this shouldn't be a PPV. I think you could argue that it shouldn't anyway. At least not at what they are charging to watch it.

Oh, and PJ Penn has apologized for accusing GSP of juicing. http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Penn...005935&tid=105

BengalMan · 08-08-2009, 11:12 PM

Wow, Anderson made Forrest look like a straight bum. Dude is unreal. Every time I think someone has a CHANCE at beating him, he makes them look foolish. Anderson is a beast, I really have to say, the best P4P fighter in the world.

Overall though, this card has been ass, plain and simple. Luckily I didn't pay for this one...

On another note, I'd like to see King Mo in the UFC. Maybe we see that soon now that he's being jerked around from city to city and opponents dropping out, etc.

Finally, Natasha is smoking hot, especially since she got what looks to be a surgical "upgrade" after winning the Maxim ring girl contest.

BengalMan · 08-08-2009, 11:49 PM

Well, BJ dominated. Kenny failed at imitating Couture's tactics against Gonzaga and Sylvia in holding BJ against the cage and hoping he would gas. BJ's conditioning is obviously where it needs to be and like always, his striking and ground game are on point. Great fight though. Looking forward to BJ vs. Sanchez.

BORIStheBLADE · 08-09-2009, 12:08 AM

Damn that was the worst card I have seen in a while except for BJ's fight.

goalie204 · 08-09-2009, 12:23 AM

that was a crap ufc, they need to put on more quality, less quantity

kgoings · 08-09-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by goalie204

that was a crap ufc, they need to put on more quality, less quantity

Give me a break! I guess Fedors new diggs will put on better fights

08-09-2009, 12:45 AM

They had too many ultimate fighters on the card and so far this has been the year they have been exposed. I thought Silva embarrassed Thales but Griffin might have looked even worse. Roy Jones better look out. I dont know why the UFC can't set up a Silva vs Jones boxing match in the UFC ? They would make a ton of money plus it would be fun to see a MMA striker against a boxer. Other organizations use to hold kickboxing matches at their events.

kgoings · 08-09-2009, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Steelergar

They had too many ultimate fighters on the card and so far this has been the year they have been exposed. I thought Silva embarrassed Thales but Griffin might have looked even worse. Roy Jones better look out. I dont know why the UFC can't set up a Silva vs Jones boxing match in the UFC ? They would make a ton of money plus it would be fun to see a MMA striker against a boxer. Other organizations use to hold kickboxing matches at their events.

Silva is the man!

The Sadollah fight could have gone longer, but the ref was right he wasnt intelligently defending himself...but I didnt think Hendricks wasnt really hitting him while he was down. Hendricks hit him with the first swing but after that was just swinging wildly at air. I watched Hendricks while he was at OSU so it was really cool to seem him in the UFC, I was rooting for him but didnt think the fight was over at that point.

Again Silva is the MAN!

Fedor is ducking the comp in the UFC.

hornitosmonster · 08-09-2009, 01:46 AM

Lyoto Machida and Anderson Silva are on a different skill level then the rest of the UFC fighters. Don't expect a fight between the two because they are best friends and have already ruled it out.

Silva can beat what is left of RoyJones Jr. in a Boxing match...However, Silva would not have beaten a prime Roy Jones Jr. in a boxing match. A match now between the two is a joke. Roy is so past his prime...

As for Fedor, I seriously doubt he is afraid of any of the Heavyweights the UFC has... It is kind of a joke to even suggest that. Please explain why Fedor is ducking the very weak UFC heavyweight division? As much as I want Fedor to destroy that joke of a champion that Lesnar is, I'm happy Fedor has raised his middle finger toward the UFC...

08-09-2009, 08:06 AM

Silva vs Griffin was CRAZY!!! Kind of reminded me of when Liddel beat Sobral, only better. It started with Liddel back pedaling while Sobral was chasing. Then Chuck caught him with an upper cut or hook. Few fighters can hit that hard while moving backwards.

It didn't look like Anderson had any body movement to the punch. It was all arms.

I thought Griffin's best chance was to take Silva down and control him like Dan Henderson. I wonder how the ground game would have went. In any case, Anderson didn't wait for that to happen.

He won't fight Machida at 205, so who do you think would be the next best match up at LHW?

cbsmokin · 08-09-2009, 08:50 AM

Here is the Silva fight if anyone didn't see it:

http://www.myvideofight.com/UFC/Silva-vs-Griffin-Video

08-09-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kayaker

He won't fight Machida at 205, so who do you think would be the next best match up at LHW?

Rashad would be a good fight. Also Rampage too. If Randy dropped back to LHW that would be a fight also.......

12stones · 08-09-2009, 08:58 AM

Let's just say that I'm glad I didn't pay for this card.

08-09-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 12stones

Let's just say that I'm glad I didn't pay for this card.

I paid for it and was quite happy. To each their own I guess.

goalie204 · 08-09-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 12stones

Let's just say that I'm glad I didn't pay for this card.

me too.

Silva wonders why people boo him, but cheer him also. He is incredibly talented no doubt, but his "showboating" makes him look like an a-hole just as much as it makes his opponents look like scrubs in his presence.

Personally I love Silva, i'd say he's the best in the world hands down. I find his showboating amusing, but i also kind of hope one day he gets caught doing it and ktfo

08-06-2009, 11:53 PM	#1
Steelergar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Official MMA Thread There appears to be some bad blood brewing between anderson silva and Griffin. Griffin has Robert Drysdale a Abu Dhabi champion training him in BJJ for this fight. Robert claims Forrest has better BJJ than Silva and this pissed him off. Silva called Drysdale a fool and an idiot. Other news Strikeforce signs Ronaldo Jacare Souza, the USA fans get to see this incredible fighter now. Last edited by Steelergar; 08-07-2009 at 12:04 AM.

08-07-2009, 06:05 AM	#2
goalie204 Have My Own Room Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Myles Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,659 Trading: (12)	Re: Official MMA Thread Looks like Edith isn't an octagon girl anymore! She isn't on the ufc site, new girl replacing her is hot - natasha wicks

08-07-2009, 09:42 AM	#5
Ken Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Albany, In Posts: 241 Trading: (0)	Re: Official MMA Thread You're probably right ActionA, though part of my brain was thinking they may have wanted to get a feel for the cage. Although Fedor has used the ropes to avoid takes I don't think the switch to the cage really matters much, he is a natural fighter and should adjust quickly.

08-07-2009, 04:57 PM	#6
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,277 Trading: (66)	Re: Official MMA Thread UFC 101 weigh-in results: All 22 fighters officially make weight for "Declaration" event PHILADELPHIA - All 22 competitors set to fight at "UFC 101: Declaration" successfully made weight for the event at today's official fighter weigh-ins. MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) today was on scene for the weigh-ins, which were held at the Wachovia Center in Philadelphia, the same venue that hosts Saturday's pay-per-view event. UFC lightweight champion B.J. Penn and fellow headliner Kenny Florian each tipped the scales at the 155-pound limit before briefly engaging in a nose-to-nose staredown. Following the pose-off, each competitor promised to display their full potentials. "This is my dream; this is what every fighter works for," Florian told event emcee Joe Rogan. "I will perform tomorrow night for sure." The usually vocal Penn was brief in response. "I'm in great shape," Penn said. "I'm going to go out and do my best." Additionally, UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva, who moves up to the light heavyweight division for a non-title fight with Forrest Griffin, weighed 205 pounds. Griffin also weighed in right on the light heavyweight limit. The full weigh-in results included: MAIN CARD * Champ B.J. Penn (155) vs. Kenny Florian (155) * Champ Anderson Silva (205) vs. Forrest Griffin (205) * Ricardo Almeida (185) vs. Kendall Grove (185.5) * Josh Neer (155.5) vs. Kurt Pellegrino (154.5) * Johny Hendricks (171) vs. Amir Sadollah (166.5) PRELIMINARY CARD * Shane Nelson (156) vs. Aaron Riley (154) * John Howard (169.5) vs. Tamdan McCrory (170) * Thales Leites (185) vs. Alessio Sakara (185.5) * Dan Cramer (169.5) vs. Matthew Riddle (170) * George Roop (154) vs. George Sotiropoulos (155) * Jesse Lennox (171) vs. Danillo Villefort (170.25) Frankly, this show doesn't have that much appeal. If it were not for the 2 main fights, this shouldn't be a PPV. I think you could argue that it shouldn't anyway. At least not at what they are charging to watch it. Oh, and PJ Penn has apologized for accusing GSP of juicing. http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Penn...005935&tid=105 __________________ The path to loyalty is trust. Last edited by NCRadioMan; 08-07-2009 at 05:11 PM.

08-08-2009, 11:12 PM	#7
BengalMan Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ian Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,280 Trading: (10)	Re: Official MMA Thread Wow, Anderson made Forrest look like a straight bum. Dude is unreal. Every time I think someone has a CHANCE at beating him, he makes them look foolish. Anderson is a beast, I really have to say, the best P4P fighter in the world. Overall though, this card has been ass, plain and simple. Luckily I didn't pay for this one... On another note, I'd like to see King Mo in the UFC. Maybe we see that soon now that he's being jerked around from city to city and opponents dropping out, etc. Finally, Natasha is smoking hot, especially since she got what looks to be a surgical "upgrade" after winning the Maxim ring girl contest.

08-08-2009, 11:49 PM	#8
BengalMan Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ian Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,280 Trading: (10)	Re: Official MMA Thread Well, BJ dominated. Kenny failed at imitating Couture's tactics against Gonzaga and Sylvia in holding BJ against the cage and hoping he would gas. BJ's conditioning is obviously where it needs to be and like always, his striking and ground game are on point. Great fight though. Looking forward to BJ vs. Sanchez.

08-09-2009, 12:08 AM	#9
BORIStheBLADE _ Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 643 Trading: (4)	Re: Official MMA Thread Damn that was the worst card I have seen in a while except for BJ's fight. __________________ I.B.E.W LOCAL # 617

08-09-2009, 12:23 AM	#10
goalie204 Have My Own Room Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Myles Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,659 Trading: (12)	Re: Official MMA Thread that was a crap ufc, they need to put on more quality, less quantity

08-09-2009, 12:45 AM	#12
Steelergar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Official MMA Thread They had too many ultimate fighters on the card and so far this has been the year they have been exposed. I thought Silva embarrassed Thales but Griffin might have looked even worse. Roy Jones better look out. I dont know why the UFC can't set up a Silva vs Jones boxing match in the UFC ? They would make a ton of money plus it would be fun to see a MMA striker against a boxer. Other organizations use to hold kickboxing matches at their events.

08-09-2009, 01:46 AM	#14
hornitosmonster Cowboys Fan Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Isaac Location: Surprise, Az Posts: 230 Trading: (4)	Re: Official MMA Thread Lyoto Machida and Anderson Silva are on a different skill level then the rest of the UFC fighters. Don't expect a fight between the two because they are best friends and have already ruled it out. Silva can beat what is left of RoyJones Jr. in a Boxing match...However, Silva would not have beaten a prime Roy Jones Jr. in a boxing match. A match now between the two is a joke. Roy is so past his prime... As for Fedor, I seriously doubt he is afraid of any of the Heavyweights the UFC has... It is kind of a joke to even suggest that. Please explain why Fedor is ducking the very weak UFC heavyweight division? As much as I want Fedor to destroy that joke of a champion that Lesnar is, I'm happy Fedor has raised his middle finger toward the UFC... __________________

08-09-2009, 08:06 AM	#15
kayaker Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Official MMA Thread Silva vs Griffin was CRAZY!!! Kind of reminded me of when Liddel beat Sobral, only better. It started with Liddel back pedaling while Sobral was chasing. Then Chuck caught him with an upper cut or hook. Few fighters can hit that hard while moving backwards. It didn't look like Anderson had any body movement to the punch. It was all arms. I thought Griffin's best chance was to take Silva down and control him like Dan Henderson. I wonder how the ground game would have went. In any case, Anderson didn't wait for that to happen. He won't fight Machida at 205, so who do you think would be the next best match up at LHW?

08-09-2009, 08:50 AM	#16
cbsmokin Looking for the Apex Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Craig Location: In da ATL Posts: 880 Trading: (10)	Re: Official MMA Thread Here is the Silva fight if anyone didn't see it: http://www.myvideofight.com/UFC/Silva-vs-Griffin-Video __________________ Check out C.A.R.B. IV http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...840#post879840

08-09-2009, 08:58 AM	#18
12stones Yo Mama is so... Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Ricky Location: Houston, TX Posts: 184 Trading: (1)	Re: Official MMA Thread Let's just say that I'm glad I didn't pay for this card.